It Ain't Right

[okclem]

I don’t think that trans former men should be competing in women’s sports. They should have their own category.

I also think the way the religious right are treating trans people is disgusting. The mouth breathers in this thread talking about the wrath of God is comical.

Ditto. I actually think it's nuts that the left is pretending it's normal for former dudes to be competing in women's sports. It just isn't a big deal to me, and certainly no reason for outrage.

There is a lot about the left, in particular the woke left, that I really don't like. But there is literally nothing I like about the "ethos" of the right.

 

[okclem]

you are pathetic man.

I'm sure you hear this a lot, but coming from you I consider it a compliment.

 

[nytigerfan]

I think we should treat all people with respect. And I do not support poor treatment of trans people. But what you’re seeing is the result of something being shoved down peoples’ throats. Nobody gave a shit about trans people until this nonsense started.

Which nonsense specifically are you referring to? Men competing in women's sports? There was a lot of vitriol on this website towards trans people before that ever happened.

 

[okclem]

I think we should treat all people with respect. And I do not support poor treatment of trans people. But what you’re seeing is the result of something being shoved down peoples’ throats. Nobody gave a shit about trans people until this nonsense started.

True until the last sentence. The last sentence is a lie, or just ignorant. They were being discriminated against plenty before it became a hot button issue.

 

[Tiger99KS]

I'm sure you hear this a lot, but coming from you I consider it a compliment.

I do think people struggle with gender dysphoria and they need to be cared for and and not targeted. But it has become a cult that is targeting children (grooming) that includes medically altering their bodies before their brains are developed enough to make a decision on their own. This became a problem for me and a lot of people when they started targeting children. To criticize people for making this an issue and "bloviating" is what is pathetic.

 

[flotiger]

I do think people struggle with gender dysphoria and they need to be cared for and and not targeted. But it has become a cult that is targeting children (grooming) that includes medically altering their bodies before their brains are developed enough to make a decision on their own. This became a problem for me and a lot of people when they started targeting children. To criticize people for making this an issue and "bloviating" is what is pathetic.

Nobody is targeting children. Has there been some instances of children around things that I don't think they should have been, sure. But don't get all absolutist and outraged despite what the propagandists are feeding you from the right.

 

[poates6]

This is literally how nazis operated. If you weren't fanatical enough in your bloviating, you were an enemy.

Most libs stay quiet on this subject because it isn't important to us. I can't speak for them all, but this is like #856 on a list of problems I believe needs addressing in this country. I also don't really give a shit about the culture wars. They're a distraction from the real issues like gun terrorism, threats to our democracy, and potential WWIII getting started in Europe.

Y'all can worry about the drag shows, trannies, non-existent pedophile rings run by every influential lib or jew on earth, and whatever fake nightmare fuel Alex Jones is selling you a supplement for.

This is how nazis operated. I’m assuming you mean people kn the progressive/socialist left. They are nazis. No doubt.

When a society loses fundamental truth such as “if you have a penis you are male, and if you have a vagina you are female” the society as a whole will cease to exist.

“Trans” is a mental disorder. It’s something we shouldn’t make fun of. They are crying out for help. We should help them. Not by accepting whatever whim they want to believe but by helping them back to reality.

When my kid is on the roof and tells me he believes he’s a bird, I don’t tell him he’s right and encourage him to fly. I tell him to get off the roof.

When someone that is a boy wants to be a girl, have surgery to make it so, we shouldn’t tell him to go for it, we should tell him to get off the roof.

 

[poates6]

Nobody is targeting children. Has there been some instances of children around things that I don't think they should have been, sure. But don't get all absolutist and outraged despite what the propagandists are feeding you from the right.

This is why our nation has ended. You can’t see reality. And you likewise think I can’t see reality. We are truly at an point of no return. We should quite literally peacefully divorce as a nation.

If we don’t do that I’m afraid of the bloodshed that will happen. It doesn’t need to come to that. If you want what the progressive socialist want go on one side, if you want to conserve the ideals of our founding go on the other side. It’s really fairly simple.

 

[nytigerfan]

Nobody is targeting children. Has there been some instances of children around things that I don't think they should have been, sure. But don't get all absolutist and outraged despite what the propagandists are feeding you from the right.

It wasn't that long ago that all of this same verbiage was used to describe gays on this site. The gays were groomers, and if two guys kissed on TV then people came here and complained that "it is being shoved down my throat!"

Of course, that term is widely used to describe anything they don't like: obamacare, taxes, entitlements.

 

[nytigerfan]

This is why our nation has ended. You can’t see reality. And you likewise think I can’t see reality. We are truly at an point of no return. We should quite literally peacefully divorce as a nation.

If we don’t do that I’m afraid of the bloodshed that will happen. It doesn’t need to come to that. If you want what the progressive socialist want go on one side, if you want to conserve the ideals of our founding go on the other side. It’s really fairly simple.

you appear to be the one with a mental disorder. Men have identified as women and vice versa throughout human history. It is just now that they can do something about it.

 

[Tiger99KS]

Teachers convincing children they are a different gender and not telling their parents, grooming closets in teacher's classrooms, teaching sex techniques (fellatio, anal sex) to children in schools....I can go on and on.

Teachers and administrators have been fired over this. Legislation has been passed. This is not right wing media hysteria. This is grassroots movement of parents who began to be horrified duirng COVID when they actually saw what was going on. To blow this is off has right wing hysteria is just dishonest.

 

[alex24]

I don’t think that trans former men should be competing in women’s sports. They should have their own category.

I also think the way the religious right are treating trans people is disgusting. The mouth breathers in this thread talking about the wrath of God is comical.

I'm not religious. But I have a major problem with idiots who can't call this what it is. It's a mental illness and thanks to the idiots who support it now we have confused children and teenagers who will also have mental illness. Probably a good % of them will commit suicide because their parents are idiots and allowed them to make such a poor decision at a young age. Can't believe it isn't considered child abuse to give children and early teens hormone supplements to suppress their natural state.

 

[Tiger99KS]

you appear to be the one with a mental disorder. Men have identified as women and vice versa throughout human history. It is just now that they can do something about it.

I agree people have dealt with this throughout history. If a grown man or women, wants to get a sex change go ahead. Once again, its about children and not being mentally developed enough to make such a life changing decision.

 

[Tiger99KS]

I'm not religious. But I have a major problem with idiots who can't call this what it is. It's a mental illness and thanks to the idiots who support it now we have confused children and teenagers who will also have mental illness. Probably a good % of them will commit suicide because their parents are idiots and allowed them to make such a poor decision at a young age. Can't believe it isn't considered child abuse to give children and early teens hormone supplements to suppress their natural state.

I couldn't agree more. Keep coming after people's children and see what happens....

 

[poates6]

you appear to be the one with a mental disorder. Men have identified as women and vice versa throughout human history. It is just now that they can do something about it.

It’s been a mental illness/disorder since it originated.

 

[okclem]

I do think people struggle with gender dysphoria and they need to be cared for and and not targeted. But it has become a cult that is targeting children (grooming) that includes medically altering their bodies before their brains are developed enough to make a decision on their own. This became a problem for me and a lot of people when they started targeting children. To criticize people for making this an issue and "bloviating" is what is pathetic.

Oh please indulge me and expound a little on what you mean by "cared for."

 

[dpic73]

I'm not religious. But I have a major problem with idiots who can't call this what it is. It's a mental illness and thanks to the idiots who support it now we have confused children and teenagers who will also have mental illness. Probably a good % of them will commit suicide because their parents are idiots and allowed them to make such a poor decision at a young age. Can't believe it isn't considered child abuse to give children and early teens hormone supplements to suppress their natural state.

Studies say the opposite. A kid with gender dysphoria is much more likely to commit suicide if they can't openly discuss the issue with their parents and other supportive adults. I don't have a problem with having them wait until they're old enough to make a more informed decision, but I also know it's a hell of a lot more complex than you simpletons make it out to be. I mean this isn't something done without years of consultation with experienced doctors and parental involvement, so I'm not willing to impose my values on to someone else, who's struggle I don't understand. That's what medical professionals are for.

 

[yoshi121374]

This is not something I've ever shown support for so not sure why you drug me into it. But for the record, I don't think biological men should be able to compete in women's sports. Wish they'd just pass a law to enforce it so we can shut-down your fake outrage machine and focus on things that matter.

I wasn't tagged,but I will respond.

I don't think biological male trans athletes should participate with biological women. There are biological advantages in musculature that are unfair.

I also really hate that we have made this such a big issue when it is such a small subset of our society. I am a strong supporter of LGBTQ+ rights and don't want to see them belittled or wronged.

I tend to practice common sense and live and let live when it comes to decisions of sexuality and gender.

 

[okclem]

This is how nazis operated. I’m assuming you mean people kn the progressive/socialist left. They are nazis. No doubt.

When a society loses fundamental truth such as “if you have a penis you are male, and if you have a vagina you are female” the society as a whole will cease to exist.

“Trans” is a mental disorder. It’s something we shouldn’t make fun of. They are crying out for help. We should help them. Not by accepting whatever whim they want to believe but by helping them back to reality.

When my kid is on the roof and tells me he believes he’s a bird, I don’t tell him he’s right and encourage him to fly. I tell him to get off the roof.

When someone that is a boy wants to be a girl, have surgery to make it so, we shouldn’t tell him to go for it, we should tell him to get off the roof.

I need to stop using reason in these threads. Better yet, I've been here almost a week again...time to show myself the door.

 

[tgrharley]

This is not something I've ever shown support for so not sure why you drug me into it. But for the record, I don't think biological men should be able to compete in women's sports. Wish they'd just pass a law to enforce it so we can shut-down your fake outrage machine and focus on things that matter.

And you think this doesn't matter,? WOW. And is not symptomatic of our country's condition?

 

[dpic73]

And you think this doesn't matter,? WOW. And is not symptomatic of our country's condition?

No I do not. Im a liberal living in a liberal city and I have many family members and friends who are also liberal and I've never seen or heard any of them advocate for this. Calling a spade a spade, this is just shining a light on the most extreme examples you can find, OVER and OVER again to paint a false narrative about the left in an effort to win elections.

How about proposing policies that aren't so unpopular so you won't have to resort to fake culture wars in order to sway the vote. You guys did this with an insane fervor before the mid-terms and it made no difference because the American people cared about much bigger issues. When will you learn?

 

[tgrharley]

No I do not. Im a liberal living in a liberal city and I have many family members and friends who are also liberal and I've never seen or heard any of them advocate for this. Calling a spade a spade, this is just shining a light on the most extreme examples you can find, OVER and OVER again to paint a false narrative about the left in an effort to win elections.

How about proposing policies that aren't so unpopular so you won't have to resort to fake culture wars in order to sway the vote. You guys did this with an insane fervor before the mid-terms and it made no difference because the American people cared about much bigger issues. When will you learn?

Good. I'm glad the Left would never create a false narrative to win an election. I feel much better now! Thank you.

 

[jimbob1019]

I don’t think that trans former men should be competing in women’s sports. They should have their own category.

I also think the way the religious right are treating trans people is disgusting. The mouth breathers in this thread talking about the wrath of God is comical.

This is literally how nazis operated. If you weren't fanatical enough in your bloviating, you were an enemy.

Most libs stay quiet on this subject because it isn't important to us. I can't speak for them all, but this is like #856 on a list of problems I believe needs addressing in this country. I also don't really give a shit about the culture wars. They're a distraction from the real issues like gun terrorism, threats to our democracy, and potential WWIII getting started in Europe.

Y'all can worry about the drag shows, trannies, non-existent pedophile rings run by every influential lib or jew on earth, and whatever fake nightmare fuel Alex Jones is selling you a supplement for.

THIS SHIT AINT NORMAL! YALL CAN BURY YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND BUT THIS IS THE SHIT YOUR LIBERAL LOON PARTY IS PUSHING AND THEY ARE PUSHING IT ON OUR KIDS! IF YOU CANT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT THEN YOURE OBVIOUSLY PART OF THE PROBLEM! THIS IS SICK & TWISTED & DOWNRIGHT DISGUSTING & YALL ARE TRYING TO NORMALIZE IT…FRIGGIN’ WEIRDOS!
…& yes, l felt like that needed all caps

 

[yoshi121374]

Good. I'm glad the Left would never create a false narrative to win an election. I feel much better now! Thank you.

#whataboutism...

How about the right come up with some actual policy positions... The Republicans have become the party of "being against" things. Where are the new ideas? You all hate Obamacare for example, great, what is your plan?

This is what @scotchtiger keeps saying. The pubs have narrowed their base by having these culture wars and no actual policy ideas.

 

[yoshi121374]

THIS SHIT AINT NORMAL! YALL CAN BURY YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND BUT THIS IS THE SHIT YOUR LIBERAL LOON PARTY IS PUSHING AND THEY ARE PUSHING IT ON OUR KIDS! IF YOU CANT SEE THE PROBLEM WITH THAT THEN YOURE OBVIOUSLY PART OF THE PROBLEM! THIS IS SICK & TWISTED & DOWNRIGHT DISGUSTING & YALL ARE TRYING TO NORMALIZE IT…FRIGGIN’ WEIRDOS!
…& yes, l felt like that needed all caps

Why do these adults bother you so much? What are they doing to you?

 

[PawsFan_]

True until the last sentence. The last sentence is a lie, or just ignorant. They were being discriminated against plenty before it became a hot button issue.

How?

 

[dpic73]

How?

By being targeted with violence, that's how.

Violence Against Trans and Non-Binary People

Transgender individuals and communities experience shocking amounts of violence and discrimination. This section offers some information on the staggering rates of violence that trans and non-binary people face, although it should be noted that data is limited. In addition to experiencing high...

vawnet.org

https://forge-forward.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/FAQ-10-2012-rates-of-violence.pdf

 

[tigergray]

The lunacy that has taken over every aspect of this country is ridiculous...and the people who pretend these situations are justified are out of touch with reality...

And yet people keep putting these freaking Democrat liberals in positions of power and they will destroy everything before they are done.

 

[dpic73]

And yet people keep putting these freaking Democrat liberals in positions of power and they will destroy everything before they are done.

 

[jimbob1019]

Why do these adults bother you so much? What are they doing to you?

Well, first off, it’s an abomination in the eyes of Almighty God…basically saying He was wrong & humans are gonna fix it…abomination!
Secondly, I’m being told that I’m supposed to support & celebrate l this mentally unstable queer crap…which I won’t…but at every turn, it’s there. Commercials, social media, tv shows, everywhere…we’re being forcefed this crap!
Lastly, I don’t want my kids or your kids or anybody’s kids subjected to this pedophile circus. THIS ISNT NORMAL BEHAVIOR! How many times does that need to be said? Yet, libtards are trying to normalize for our kids?! It’s sick & disgusting…& I don’t want my kids being taught that’s it’s ok…bc it’s not ok….none of it is ok!

My question is why it doesn’t bother you??

 

[firegiver]

This ^^^^^^

Then go complain to the NCAA. Close this tab, open another one and write the email. I'll do the same because I don't think its the right way to handle trans women sports

 

[yoshi121374]

Well, first off, it’s an abomination in the eyes of Almighty God…basically saying He was wrong & humans are gonna fix it…abomination!
Secondly, I’m being told that I’m supposed to support & celebrate l this mentally unstable queer crap…which I won’t…but at every turn, it’s there. Commercials, social media, tv shows, everywhere…we’re being forcefed this crap!
Lastly, I don’t want my kids or your kids or anybody’s kids subjected to this pedophile circus. THIS ISNT NORMAL BEHAVIOR! How many times does that need to be said? Yet, libtards are trying to normalize for our kids?! It’s sick & disgusting…& I don’t want my kids being taught that’s it’s ok…bc it’s not ok….none of it is ok!

My question is why it doesn’t bother you??

Every single thing you said is wrong. You do know in animals homosexuality and Gender changing is very common, so God made that. Nobody is fixing anything on you or your kids. Someone else having rights doesn't infringe on your rights.

What about this is a "pedophile circus"?

It doesn't bother me because I know gay and trans people and know what their lives are like. My wife is a school counselor and has to hear morons like you telling her what she can and cannot talk with your gay kids about.

 

[nytigerfan]

Every single thing you said is wrong. You do know in animals homosexuality and Gender changing is very common, so God made that. Nobody is fixing anything on you or your kids. Someone else having rights doesn't infringe on your rights.

What about this is a "pedophile circus"?

It doesn't bother me because I know gay and trans people and know what their lives are like. My wife is a school counselor and has to hear morons like you telling her what she can and cannot talk with your gay kids about.

You have to understand that every time @jimbob1019 leaves the house, he lives in fear that he will end up with a cock in his mouth again.

 

[alex24]

Studies say the opposite. A kid with gender dysphoria is much more likely to commit suicide if they can't openly discuss the issue with their parents and other supportive adults. I don't have a problem with having them wait until they're old enough to make a more informed decision, but I also know it's a hell of a lot more complex than you simpletons make it out to be. I mean this isn't something done without years of consultation with experienced doctors and parental involvement, so I'm not willing to impose my values on to someone else, who's struggle I don't understand. That's what medical professionals are for.

There are many clinical psychologists that say this should be a crime and these hormones should be a last resort. Dim whit

 

[yoshi121374]

There are many clinical psychologists that say this should be a crime and these hormones should be a last resort. Dim whit

There are many.... The argument for the uneducated. There are many people who do and say all kinds of dumb shit. Also...dim whit?

 

[dpic73]

There are many clinical psychologists that say this should be a crime and these hormones should be a last resort. Dim whit

Sounds like Trump - "people are saying..."

Also, the irony is rich, LOL you dimmwitch

 

[dpic73]

Well, first off, it’s an abomination in the eyes of Almighty God…basically saying He was wrong & humans are gonna fix it…abomination!
Secondly, I’m being told that I’m supposed to support & celebrate l this mentally unstable queer crap…which I won’t…but at every turn, it’s there. Commercials, social media, tv shows, everywhere…we’re being forcefed this crap!
Lastly, I don’t want my kids or your kids or anybody’s kids subjected to this pedophile circus. THIS ISNT NORMAL BEHAVIOR! How many times does that need to be said? Yet, libtards are trying to normalize for our kids?! It’s sick & disgusting…& I don’t want my kids being taught that’s it’s ok…bc it’s not ok….none of it is ok!

My question is why it doesn’t bother you??

Let it be known than no one but white, hetero rednecks should be allowed to exist in jimbobble's world! We should not be exposed to reality here in Cowpatty SC!

Sorry for you jimbobble but these people aren't going anywhere, they're in every country and they aren't coming for your kids, except in your right-wing imagination. The large majority just want to live simple, decent lives without the government interfering in their choices. But if that's too much for you, there's always Iran if you'd like to avoid them completely...

I sure hope you didn't let your kids watch Andy Griffith or Beverly Hillbillies though because that would be grooming!

 

[CUT93]

Every single thing you said is wrong. You do know in animals homosexuality and Gender changing is very common, so God made that. Nobody is fixing anything on you or your kids. Someone else having rights doesn't infringe on your rights.

What about this is a "pedophile circus"?

It doesn't bother me because I know gay and trans people and know what their lives are like. My wife is a school counselor and has to hear morons like you telling her what she can and cannot talk with your gay kids about.

While jimbob was over the top, your logic is flawed. Is it your assertion that any animal behavior that humans follow is acceptable to GOD? Cannibalism ok with you? God created psychopaths, sociopaths, pedophiles, etc, as well. Are they all free to live as they desire as well since God created them? To be clear, I am not equating behaviors - just pointing out extreme examples of God's creation of which their behavior he certainly does not approve. Mankind is held to a different standard than the rest of the animal classification in the eyes of God, imo.

 

[DW4_2016]

not one person in this thread has watched :02 of women's swimming but we all give a fvck about this for some reason?

 

[nytigerfan]

Let it be known than no one but white, hetero rednecks should be allowed to exist in jimbobble's world! We should not be exposed to reality here in Cowpatty SC!

Sorry for you jimbobble but these people aren't going anywhere, they're in every country and they aren't coming for your kids, except in your right-wing imagination. The large majority just want to live simple, decent lives without the government interfering in their choices. But if that's too much for you, there's always Iran if you'd like to avoid them completely...

I sure hope you didn't let your kids watch Andy Griffith or Beverly Hillbillies though because that would be grooming!

Andy Griffiths was a dirty groomer!