Joe Rogan Show - COVID related
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You're correct...the problem is being missed. Common sense has been lost at record rates. C'mon dude. If you look at the source of a huge percent of this shit, common sense says differently.
The highly potential targets (poor health in Seniors and with immune system patients) should be isolated for their safety....if not under voluntary house isolation....aka house arrest. Rely on family to help. No family? The church. No church? Pray for your own GD ass.
Common sense is laughable with the younger and inexperienced. But wtf, they know it all. I hear and see the finger pointing. Go after it people. Show your mettle.
I think this effect is greatly understated because of where the news centers are. I also think population density is helpful for most SC people.
Our health care system definitely isn't awful. And there's this:
Airplane ventilation systems are actually pretty safe. More than a lot of other enclosed spaces. Also, doctors are telling their patients to call in before they come to their office if they suspect they're infected, and they have protocols they're supposed to follow to stop the spread of infection. They're actually regulated by HHS, and HHS has said all of its inspectors will be focusing on enforcement of their protocols to prevent the spread of infection.
He's a liberaltarian. Like a lot of libertarians, he loves outsiders and anti-establishment "free thinkers," so Bernie actually makes a lot of sense for him.
Fat people and social security leaches beware....About to solve some of the U.S. biggest problems, makin America great again....
A player on Juventus now has tested positive for the virus.
Not sure why people are complaining about the measures being taken to control this.
Not sure why people are complaining about the measures being taken to control this.
i identify with a lot of Libertarian principles and I wouldn’t piss on Bernie if he was on fire. Seems odd bedfellows, but whatever.
I think it's more of an attitudinal thing for a lot of people. It's why a lot of libertarians are into conspiracy theories and generally being a weirdo. They're attracted to people and things that look like they're from outside the "establishment."
We are supposedly tenth best. But I think that methodology is lacking. We will be put to the test with things that actually matter.
So far there hasn't been enough testing done bc we either didn't want to know the extent of the infection rates or the govt was too slow in funding the tests and dispersing to states (or both). We don't have adequate hospital beds or paid sick leave or child care or respirators etc etc. Our health care system is an insanely expensive cluster.
Yep--waiting rooms are being stopped bc why would you design a health care system where you all sat together with infected people before seeing a doctor?? The answer is profit. Glad this is happening (remember when doctors came to houses!! Yeah--there was a reason for that and surprise--it wasn't to maximize profit). Also kudos to Pence for getting health insurance companies to agree to waive copays on covid testing and extend covid treatment in plans (BUT--watch what happens when it starts to impact bottom-lines of companies and see what gets covered and denied...our wonderful health care system at work yet again). Glad Pence is ok with some old fashioned democratic socialism in a time of crisis, however (the time where market solutions COLLAPSE my libertarian friends--of course, I realize the solution you want is for people to die since charity is a weakness...but yeah--we continue). CPAC buddies must have gotten sick and showed how contagious this thing really is when tracked (but I will wait on JARED to get the real answers...uggh).
If you ask airlines if ventilation systems are great--guess what the answer is?? Granted--I haven't ever read an indep third party report on ventilation (why--bc what company would allow such a thing if it hurt their PR) so I shouldn't be so flippant, but still...The only thing worse than the ventilation systems are the water lines--those don't ever get cleaned. Planes are disgusting. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/aug/19/sick-crew-toxic-air-planes-frequent-flyers-ill
Looks like the Spring game will be canceled...boo...
Even if you don't draw the short straw, your lives will all be changed for the worse for a while. Restaurants and theaters will be mostly gone. Probably the final nail for shopping malls and big box stores. Sporting events? Some things will get very cheap for loss of demand while others may skyrocket due to supply chain interruptions.
And even in the unlikely event this fizzles, it will serve as nature's shot across our bow and change enough of how we do things to create a new and unfamiliar "normal." This will be a very bumpy ride.
And even in the unlikely event this fizzles, it will serve as nature's shot across our bow and change enough of how we do things to create a new and unfamiliar "normal." This will be a very bumpy ride.
Major outbreak areas circled...
Check this out:
The US (and Japan bc they wanted the Olympics) just aren't testing. This is going to be bad...
I made that comment because apparently the Walmart in Seneca, SC is (was) out of TP yesterday, and the Sam's was out on Tuesday.
After the gym yesterday I went to Dollar General and they were fully stocked.
Hypothesis - Walmart is having supplier problems.
Pretty sure he's backing Gabbard. Bernie supporters got all pissed because Rogan doesn't support dudes in women's sports, and I think that drove him to support Tulsi.
I think she would be the best of the three based off of brainpower and accomplishments, though she is a pretty hardcore socialist I think and has some radical ideas.
And Hillary thinks she's a Russian asset or something.....
That's how Rogan works - he lets the expert tell the story.
And there is something to that. Atlanta is a big urban center where if this thing gets loose and you live there, you are fvcked.
Springfield, SC can pretty much isolate itself for a while.
Costco in Chucktown was out yesterday. Good news, wet wipes still seem to be in stock.
I concede your point. However, I was dead serious about the bidet. Japan is killing it with toilet technology.
Check this out:
The US (and Japan bc they wanted the Olympics) just aren't testing. This is going to be bad...
We already know that direct sunlight on an inanimate surface reduces the half life of the virus to 2.5 minutes from around 12-13. It’s not going to get that bad. Social distancing and weather will slow and mitigate the spread significantly.
Dude... If this guy disagrees with Trump, EVERYONE will know that he's just another never Trumper hack. Trumps hunches are > than anything this dude knows. Just ask Trump.
My sincere hope is that the people posting political shit in these threads are among those killed by the virus in 2020.
I'm thinking about ordering one (a bidet), under the guise of saving TP.
As to my point, I wasn't really trying to make any sort of argument. Just stating what I thought. But if Costco is also out then something bigger is up and it changes my hypothesis. I bought a couple of packs at DG just to have a safety stock.
It may be time to call in the hero we need right now:
On the other hand, I hope and pray that you and your family are not.
Someone just sent me this article. Really interesting related to Iran and their response to the virus. Maybe our media is overreacting. Imagine though a regime like North Korea, China or Iran where there is no free press. Information is inaccurate, misguided or misleading. Again like Taleb says "better to panic early." Thinking Canada would have liked to have closed borders earlier if what this article suggests is anywhere close to accurate.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...oronavirus-problem-lot-worse-it-seems/607663/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...oronavirus-problem-lot-worse-it-seems/607663/
Umm...the point is that it is already bad. We just don't know it yet in the US. And the opportunity to enact social distancing that will flatten the curve is dwindling.
I agree this shouldn't be political. I applaud Republican gov Mike DeWine in Ohio for his quick actions and Dem Katie Porter for getting the admin on the record about using its power to allow americans to be tested w/out worrying about health insurance. Those are the kind of actions and leadership that will save lives. Not some stupid press conference where half the info is taken back 10 minutes after the speech. This president is ridiculous. (I also would rather put the 500 billion to 1.5 trillion dollars the fed just gave to banks to protect homeowners, people who are going to have to stay home and lose their jobs, get serious about testing, or deal with child care options since schools are going to start shutting down--but what do I know??)
Even if sunlight kills it--the thing is spreading at such a rate that it is going to go through the population without massive social distancing yesterday. Glad cities and states are starting to step up but airports, casinos, and supermarkets aren't shutting down. But again, I applaud the efforts being taken.
The trump admin was unprepared to take drastic action quickly and have a plan in place to know what was essential and nonessential gathering. Instead, just a week ago this thing was a hoax that could be joked about with racist memes.
And oh hey--guess what--your argument completely fell apart bc "Coronavirus Can Live in Patients for Five Weeks After Contagion."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti..._jQF_jgl9TlYMmbJkklyWZn99-Q7bMlpdLqHtAxQMylOA
It has a longer incubation period (people don't know they have it and spread it around) and it lasts for 5 weeks (meaning you need serious isolation even after and what freedom loving american is going to do that).
5 tests per million? No tests the past couple of days. Asleep at the wheel.
Viruses don’t “live” at all. Viral RNA was found in the respiratory tract. Doesn’t mean the virus is viable for 5 weeks. Maybe it is. Maybe it isn’t. But, viral rna doesn’t necessarily mean the virus is viable. And, 191 people from the same ethnic group and very small geographic area isn’t a great sample size. Not to say the study is useless. May be true. But, it’s impossible to know at this point.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/grap...itid=hp_ed-picks_iran-0312:homepage/story-ans
Mass Graves in Iran.
Mass Graves in Iran.
Are we sure? A virus acts like a parasite. It uses humans or other living creatures to reproduce and spread. Some have said the sneeze or cough is our body trying to rid ourselves of the invader. Perhaps the virus is influencing the body to sneeze or cough to ensure its survival. Kill the host too soon and the virus dies out. Keep the host alive to guarantee the virus's survival.
Haven't we all seen Alien?
It sounds to me like they just want to slow down the spread to keep the hospitals from being overflowed and to give time for a vaccine of which two companies are stating they have one already. Long term, this will be just like the flu in that its here for good now and as more people catch it and survive, the overall immunity of the population will increase along with the vaccines. Its still just a 1% mortality rate compared to the .1% mortality rate of common flu from what I have seen.
Btw, Rogan loves to bring anyone on that will ham up or dramatize anything.
https://www.defenseone.com/technolo...-vaccine-says-pentagon-funded-company/163739/
Would me responding to a few things in your post (especially the correlation with Influenza) potentially change your opinion at all or would it be a waste of time?
Sure. Go ahead. Im just quoting doctors that I listened to on TV.
I mean, it's an expert in the field saying it, not Rogan. He's just asking questions as a host does.
Preciate that. As an opening talking point: This is Trump’s handpicked man with regards to the National COVID19 response (medically) testifying before Congress, as an expert Witness re: this exact issue.
This is my point, we need to stop comparing it to Seasonal Influenza, it’s actually harmful to preparation because people automatically associate their individual experience with it. COVID is much worse.
Could it improve? Well, sure, but we don’t have data on that currently and need to prepare for what’s in front of us.
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USA population is 331,002,651 and some Libby told me everyone would catch it and 5% would die this year! That would be 16,550,132 deaths! So only 400,000 is awesome and a bit of a snoozer ZZZZzzzz for most of you Libby’s on the site, I’m sure.
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