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"Journalist" fires and reviews an AR-15

In reality, what is the difference in close quarters between a .45 handgun with a 15 shot clip and 1 in the chamber and an AR-15 with a 15 shot clip and 1 in the chamber? Larger caliber? Remember...close range. The answer when discussing gun control is simple...you Lib fvcktards cannot stop at the AR-15.

That's why your savior signed the UN Small Arms Treaty. It's a crack in the door. Like education, taxation, work place safety, whatever, you fvcktards lie like cheap rugs and want it all. And it always gets messed up. From the AR-15 to my 9mm. It will never stop.

If SHTF, you're the whining pvssy incapable of protecting his family and begging for that redneck mofo next door to bail your ass out when gangs looking for food and whatever else come to your neighborhood. You have certain thoughts...LIMITED thoughts...of what can happen if SHTF. In your world, there is no reason to prepare. Everything is groovy.

I'd rather be called a fool and be prepared than called dead and think I'm right. You and your ilk are damned fools. Ignore me asshat. You're part of the problem.

This response is full of delusion and white trash bravado.....about what I expected. Tell Clive Bundy to kiss my arse when you see him at the weekend warrior freak show you guys like to attend. Most of you guys claiming to be badasses are a bunch of old, washed up has beens with 42 inch waist lines and ranting about all the pu$$ies you want to beat up. Losers!
 
What about car wrecks? Txting and driving, obesity, abortion, diabetes? Are we going to outlaw soft drinks?

What about them?? If you are asking me if reasonable laws should be put into place to regulate them the answer is yes. Regarding car wrecks we have Dui laws right now that have helped! Let's find the equivalent to these for the out of control gun related deaths in the United States!
 
I'm gonna put in a range request tomorrow and invite that joker to fire an M240B. That should cause him to seek professional help. How about take him to Fort Lost In the Woods and let him watch A-10s hit the range.

Do they still do that there?
 
I own an AR-15. I also just purchased 1,000 rounds of .223 ammo. I get magazines from my brother who has several friends in the military so they are military issue grade.
 
This response is full of delusion and white trash bravado.....about what I expected. Tell Clive Bundy to kiss my arse when you see him at the weekend warrior freak show you guys like to attend. Most of you guys claiming to be badasses are a bunch of old, washed up has beens with 42 inch waist lines and ranting about all the pu$$ies you want to beat up. Losers!
I'm gonna put in a range request tomorrow and invite that joker to fire an M240B. That should cause him to seek professional help. How about take him to Fort Lost In the Woods and let him watch A-10s hit the range.

Do they still do that there?
Never been there before, wasn't an engineer. Never seen A-10s live, but I got some great video of puff the magic dragon (AC-130) while we was clearing the sangin valley
 
This response is full of delusion and white trash bravado.....about what I expected. Tell Clive Bundy to kiss my arse when you see him at the weekend warrior freak show you guys like to attend. Most of you guys claiming to be badasses are a bunch of old, washed up has beens with 42 inch waist lines and ranting about all the pu$$ies you want to beat up. Losers!

Try my washed up ass. You do understand the acronym FUBAR. You don't have the balls to try a an old, one-legged guy. Bitch.
 
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It does not take a rocket scientist to see that the ar-15 has killed too many innocent people in this country.

Are you saying it was an AR-15 in Orlando? Got your "facts" straight about even that?
 
Never been there before, wasn't an engineer. Never seen A-10s live, but I got some great video of puff the magic dragon (AC-130) while we was clearing the sangin valley

Watching an A-10 cut targets down in a combat zone is the sexiest thing I have ever seen. The sound wraps around you and vibrates you like an orgasm. I have wet dreams about that shat ever since.
 
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Watching an A-10 cut targets down in a combat zone is the sexiest thing I have ever seen. The sound wraps around you and vibrates you like an orgasm. I have wet dreams about that shat ever since.
I bet it is my friend.
 
No question our military would have the public outgunned. But we have a pretty small military and a lot of people...very few would fire on the populace. And if we were invaded, well they would have a nightmare occupying us without nukeing us. It would indeed be like Red Dawn.
The second amendment does not give the right to bear arms. It give the right to be in a militia. Which is by definition civilians who maintain their own weapons and are subject to call-up to federal service. We haven't used it since the Civil War and even then I don't think they supplied there own weapons. Certainly it was used in the Revolutionary War. Clearly the intent of the founders was to maintain militia.
 
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lol at you thinking you would have any chance to protect yourself if the government intended to kill you. We are so far past the point of that being a valid argument for why you need guns. You're bringing a gun to a drone fight.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Your post is as uninformed as the reporter's article asserting that an AR-15 sounds like a bazooka. Nope.
 
No question our military would have the public outgunned. But we have a pretty small military and a lot of people...very few would fire on the populace. And if we were invaded, well they would have a nightmare occupying us without nukeing us. It would indeed be like Red Dawn.
The second amendment does not give the right to bear arms. It give the right to be in a militia. Which is by definition civilians who maintain their own weapons and are subject to call-up to federal service. We haven't used it since the Civil War and even then I don't think they supplied there own weapons. Certainly it was used in the Revolutionary War. Clearly the intent of the founders was to maintain militia.
Wrong.
The second amendment CLEARLY gives the people the right to keep and bear arms (check that: the second amendment, like ALL of the bill of rights, simply states INALIENABLE RIGHTS. The are rights GIVEN BY GOD that come with our personhood, and can NEVER be denied. ) but only states ONE of the many reasons : so that citizen soldiers can assemble to fight off an enemy, be it foreign or domestic, like our own government.
 
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Wrong.
The second amendment CLEARLY gives the people the right to keep and bear arms (check that: the second amendment, like ALL of the bill of rights, simply states INALIENABLE RIGHTS. The are rights GIVEN BY GOD that come with our personhood, and can NEVER be denied. ) but only states ONE of the many reasons : so that citizen soldiers can assemble to fight off an enemy, be it foreign or domestic, like our own government.

Maybe they should be capped it at muskets and avoided all this debate
 
There is no debate.
Get an education.
Read the Constitution.
Read the Federalist papers.
Read some on Washington and Jefferson .
Choose to not be brainwashed.

I have a great education - perhaps I missed the class on crazy talk when I went to Clemson - obviously you were the head of that class. I believe in the 2nd amendment but also believe it has some limits.
 
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Wrong.
The second amendment CLEARLY gives the people the right to keep and bear arms (check that: the second amendment, like ALL of the bill of rights, simply states INALIENABLE RIGHTS. The are rights GIVEN BY GOD that come with our personhood, and can NEVER be denied. ) but only states ONE of the many reasons : so that citizen soldiers can assemble to fight off an enemy, be it foreign or domestic, like our own government.
Read the wording. Militia right there as the reason. I hardly believe God gave the right to guns since they have only been around a few hundred years. I'm all for militias. We should get them going again.
 
To start, virtually all of the people who died in many of the recent mass shootings including The elem school in CT, theater in Aurora Co, Orlando, San Bernardino and the Comm College in Oregon. That is just a start. I may not be a rocket scientist but I can tell you that semi automatic gun is helping slaughter our citizenry. The tide is starting to turn on these rifles. Public sentiment is finally starting to even change the hearts and minds at Fox News. Imagine what is going on in mainstream America?

Brother you are wrong. I will provide the data for you when I'm not on mobile since you don't want to educate yourself. And FYI a large majority of rifles are semi automatic a pity you don't know the difference.

And I am a reasonable person. I am completely open to a discussion about gun laws but I'm not open to a discussion about banning guns because the additional plastic looks scary when the person I'm discussing it with has zero knowledge about them and doesn't want to educate themselves.
 
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To start, stopping ppl on the FBI watchlist from getting access to these weapons .

If they have committed no crimes and are US citizens there is nothing you can do to stop that. I can be put on a watchlist for disagreeing with our president and being outspoken about that.
 
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I am trying to decide who is the worst person in this thread. Tigerguy of FreeSC. Both of you should be on a federal watch list and not allowed to own firearms. You are everything wrong with this debate. You think these guns both make you Billy Badass and somehow will keep you safe if the government comes for you. Both are so ridiculous. If you don't have any real friends so you go to a shooting range to hang with other crazy conspiracy theorist, go for it. But you and Cleve and Jimbo should keep that talk to yourself around paper targets you shredded. The rest of us will try and make positive contributions to society. And it isn't a liberal versus conservative debate. It's logic versus illogical. Of course I am not voting for Trump so I can't understand. I also won't be voting for Hillary. I am just rooting for both of them to come up on some kind of federal charges and both sides be forced to put up real candidates.
 
How many people has the AR-15 killed in the US? Or are you just spouting the nonsense that you hear on the "news". Here is a hint, more people were killed by knives last year than all rifles combine.

Lots of great things ITT but rationalizing gun violence with knife violence has to be at the top of the list
 
I am trying to decide who is the worst person in this thread. Tigerguy of FreeSC. Both of you should be on a federal watch list and not allowed to own firearms. You are everything wrong with this debate. You think these guns both make you Billy Badass and somehow will keep you safe if the government comes for you. Both are so ridiculous. If you don't have any real friends so you go to a shooting range to hang with other crazy conspiracy theorist, go for it. But you and Cleve and Jimbo should keep that talk to yourself around paper targets you shredded. The rest of us will try and make positive contributions to society. And it isn't a liberal versus conservative debate. It's logic versus illogical. Of course I am not voting for Trump so I can't understand. I also won't be voting for Hillary. I am just rooting for both of them to come up on some kind of federal charges and both sides be forced to put up real candidates.
First off, I know plenty of normal, level-headed, logical and rational people who enjoy gun ranges. Maybe we should have the conversation about how Mateen passed ANY background check instead of what gun be used. The guy was a radical and also sounds a bit cuckoo so he could have used a bomb, couple of 9mm.
 
First off, I know plenty of normal, level-headed, logical and rational people who enjoy gun ranges. Maybe we should have the conversation about how Mateen passed ANY background check instead of what gun be used. The guy was a radical and also sounds a bit cuckoo so he could have used a bomb, couple of 9mm.
Oh I 100% agree. Crazy people who want to kill will do it by any means necessary. I am not for banning all guns. I just don't think any person essentially can walk off the street and by a gun like an AR 15. This situation proved the limited background check stuff doesn't work. That needs improvement and there needs to be waiting periods in particular guns. If you can't wait 7-14 days to purchase an AR 15, chance are you plan to do something based on emotions with it, which isn't good. There are people who legitimately need protection and they should be allowed a quicker period. If you have a restraining order against someone based on their recipes violent acts against you, such as a domestic dispute, then they should be allowed quicker access to a handgun or whatever. Just an example.
 
Gun control is absolutely a great idea. The question is what level of gun control.

I own a gun and believe we all should be able to own one for self defense.

I am a firm believer that no matter how tough it is to get guns terror will happen with anything. Take away guns and the story would have been a bomb. What happens when we see a news story of a terrorist mowing down people with a car in NYC.

I believe gun control is pretty close to where it needs to be. However gun ignorance for many americans is definitely way up there. This article is so full of either ignorance or complete BS for pushing an agenda. Either way the article makes ignorant people stupid now.
 
Read the wording. Militia right there as the reason. I hardly believe God gave the right to guns since they have only been around a few hundred years. I'm all for militias. We should get them going again.

All of the rights listed are inalienable rights. No government can take them away.
If you read the Federalist papers, or any descent book on Washington or Madison (father of the Constitution ), the reasons are CLEAR.

The first things the Communists and the Nazis did when they came to power wss disarm the people.
There is a famous post of Hitler sitting with children, with the tagline, "We just want to protect the children."
Tyrants in western civilization no longer wear military garb, they wear business suites.
But their tactics are the same.
 
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I have a great education - perhaps I missed the class on crazy talk when I went to Clemson - obviously you were the head of that class. I believe in the 2nd amendment but also believe it has some limits.

Bet $100 right now you never read the Federalist papers.
My education goes far beyond Clemson, when it comes to history. Guessing ive read far more on history than probably anyone on this board.
And just because it's taught by some PhD at Clemson doesn't mean it's right.
 
Lots of great things ITT but rationalizing gun violence with knife violence has to be at the top of the list

Well I'm sorry that you missed the point. I wasn't rationalizing gun violence with knife violence. I was illustarting how a statement, which I quoted and bolded, was ludicrous. In case you missed it the statement was "...the AR-15 has killed too many people...". That is a gross exaggeration if you take the time to look at the statistics.
 
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Statistics from the CDC are very interesting.
About 60% of all gun deaths are due to suicide.
About 35% are homicides; the other 5% are part accidents, part self defense.

Of the homicides, the vast majority - about 80% - are gang-related.

There are two things here that so many people don't get.
1) An AR15 is NOT some magically-dangerous weapon. It's just a semi-auto rifle that looks cool. In fact, I'll tell you, that when the M16 (the military version, with a full-auto option - which I understand the military if phasing out) was introduced, a lot of the troops didn't like it.
WHY?
Well, the little .223 bullet really isn't all that great at knocking down bad guys. My dad's best friend was in Vietnam for years, and he said the troops didn't really like the M16 because Vietcong would be shot and just keep coming. A lot of the older guys wanted to go back to M1 carbines because when they shot the enemy with that gun, they went down.
In fact, in some of these mass shootings in confined areas, the AR15 is FAR from the most dangerous firearm. If you wanted a weapon to kill a bunch of people, use a sawed off shotgun filled with buckshot. MUCH, MUCH more dangerous.
Whatchagonnado? Outlaw shotguns? Gimme a break.
It's NOT about the gun.
2) People don't get that, whether it's a criminal breaking in your home, or a crazy going into a school or bar to shoot a bunch of people, the same thing applies.
Those people are essentially bullies, who want to attack you from a position of power. And if you don't have a gun, you are at a disadvantage.
Every single mass shooting I can think of in the last 10 years has one commonality: they ALL happened in gun-free zones.
See criminals don't attack police stations.
They don't attack gun ranges.
They NEVER will.
They want to walk into a situation where they can do a TON of damage before going out in a blaze of glory. If they think they'll be killed before they get started good, they won't attack there.
 
And you must live in YOUR world. You haven't really thought more than 2 or 3 scenarios how things could go down. WTF is going to press the trigger? Your brother? Neighbor? Nephew? And do you think all the hunt and gun clubs NEVER have "what if" discussions around a fire? And you don't think that there are "loose" plans that could become concrete in short order? You don't know jack, shirley or shit.

What the hell are you babbling on about

you're a loon
 
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