LIBTARDS SAY GOODNIGHT...
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Perfectly said. This fear about Russia is total ignorant, liberal B.S. I've spent plenty of time there, especially in the 2 main cities (St. Petersburg, Moscow.) There's zero angst towards Americans.
Russia has had problems, post Communism, but it's not some kind of deal that isn't happening towards the classes in America. People who haven't been there, probably think the Middle East is safe for vacations.
This. No way Putin doesn't want her to win. With the trove of emails he almost surely has he will have her by the...ahem...balls.
no doubt- this is definitely a national security issue now.
could only imagine what the russians and chinese have on the clintons
and they KNOW the clinton tactics and will use those same tactics to gain influence as the clintons did to get to where they are.
hillary in the white house is worse than allowing radical muslim refugees into the country
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@avengermg73 - hear anything from your world?
@NavyTigerSC
Erdogan locks US airmen, nuclear arms in Incirlik
Some 1,500 US airmen and their families have been locked in the southern Turkish air base of Incirlik together with a stock if tactical nuclear bombs since President Reccep Erdogan crushed an attempted coup on Saturday, July 16. In the four days up until Wednesday, July 20, therefore, no air strikes against ISIS in Syria and Iraq have been staged that Turkish base.
This extraordinary situation, reported here by debkafile’s military sources, whereby a large group of American military personnel are held virtual captive by an allied government, was almost certainly raised in the phone call that took place Tuesday between President Barack Obama and Erdogan. But the most outlandish aspect of this affair is that no American official has raised it in public - nor even by the administrations most vocal critics at the Republican convention which nominated Donald Trump as presidential candidate.
The situation only rated a brief mention in some Russian publications under the heading: “Turkish investigators enter & search Incirlik air base where US nukes are housed.”
Our military sources report that deep bunkers located near the base’s running strips house B61 tactical nuclear gravity bombs.
In the course of the massive sweep-cum-purge Erdogan is conducting in every corner of the country, hundreds of police officers accompanied by Ministry of Justice and Attorney General Office investigators are the only people permitted to enter the strategic air base, and only emergency cases may leave, after coordinating with the Turkish authorities.
The base is under virtual siege by large police contingents, cut off from electric power for several days except for local generators which will soon run out of fuel. This pressure appears to be Erdogan’s method of turning hundreds of Americans on the base into hostages to force Washington into extraditing Fethullah Gulen, whom he accuses of orchestrating the failed coup from his place of asylum in Pennsylvania.
The victims of Erdogan’s strategy of extortion are several US units deployed in Incirlik under squadron command. They include engineering, communication, logistics, air control, a military hospital with medical and operational facilities, air transportation and more.
The Turkish squadron and base commander, Brigadier Gen. Bekir Ercan, is under arrest, suspected of a senior role in planning and executing the coup, by assigning the aircraft and helicopters to support it, responsibility for the disappearance of a large number of aircraft and aiding the defection of air crews to Greece.
He is one of the more than 6,000 military personnel including fellow generals arrested on suspicion of active complicity in the coup plot.
By Wednesday, more than 50,000 people had been rounded up, sacked or suspended from their jobs by Turkey's government in the wake of last week's failed coup, including 9,000 police officers, the suspension of about 3,000 judges and widening Tuesday to include teachers, university deans and the media who are accused of links with Gulen.
However, fears for the fate of the US airmen trapped in Incirlik and the tactical nukes were exacerbated by the comments of two top officials of the Erdogan regime Tuesday.
Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim insinuated that the Americans may be viewed as partners, at least passive ones, in the conspiracy, in view of the use the plotters made of Incirlik for sending aircraft based there and arming them for the missions of intercepting the President’s airplane (which was never realized) and bombing the Parliament building in Ankara (which was).
The Turkish Labor Minister, Süleyman Soylu, was more explicit: “This coup has America behind,” he twitted in his Twitter account.
The Obama administration’s caution over the scary Incirlik impasse appears to derive from trepidation, shared by Riyadh, Cairo and Jerusalem, that the autocratic Turkish ruler’s Stalinist purge reaching into all branches of government and all walks of Turkish society is part and parcel of a comprehensive Muslim revolution underway in Turkey. An incautious word from Washington may quicken the process.
@avengermg73 - hear anything from your world?
@NavyTigerSC
Erdogan locks US airmen, nuclear arms in Incirlik
This extraordinary situation, reported here by debkafile’s military sources, whereby a large group of American military personnel are held virtual captive by an allied government, was almost certainly raised in the phone call that took place Tuesday between President Barack Obama and Erdogan. But the most outlandish aspect of this affair is that no American official has raised it in public - nor even by the administrations most vocal critics at the Republican convention which nominated Donald Trump as presidential candidate.
The situation only rated a brief mention in some Russian publications under the heading: “Turkish investigators enter & search Incirlik air base where US nukes are housed.”
Our military sources report that deep bunkers located near the base’s running strips house B61 tactical nuclear gravity bombs.
In the course of the massive sweep-cum-purge Erdogan is conducting in every corner of the country, hundreds of police officers accompanied by Ministry of Justice and Attorney General Office investigators are the only people permitted to enter the strategic air base, and only emergency cases may leave, after coordinating with the Turkish authorities.
The base is under virtual siege by large police contingents, cut off from electric power for several days except for local generators which will soon run out of fuel. This pressure appears to be Erdogan’s method of turning hundreds of Americans on the base into hostages to force Washington into extraditing Fethullah Gulen, whom he accuses of orchestrating the failed coup from his place of asylum in Pennsylvania.
The victims of Erdogan’s strategy of extortion are several US units deployed in Incirlik under squadron command. They include engineering, communication, logistics, air control, a military hospital with medical and operational facilities, air transportation and more.
The Turkish squadron and base commander, Brigadier Gen. Bekir Ercan, is under arrest, suspected of a senior role in planning and executing the coup, by assigning the aircraft and helicopters to support it, responsibility for the disappearance of a large number of aircraft and aiding the defection of air crews to Greece.
He is one of the more than 6,000 military personnel including fellow generals arrested on suspicion of active complicity in the coup plot.
However, fears for the fate of the US airmen trapped in Incirlik and the tactical nukes were exacerbated by the comments of two top officials of the Erdogan regime Tuesday.
Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim insinuated that the Americans may be viewed as partners, at least passive ones, in the conspiracy, in view of the use the plotters made of Incirlik for sending aircraft based there and arming them for the missions of intercepting the President’s airplane (which was never realized) and bombing the Parliament building in Ankara (which was).
The Turkish Labor Minister, Süleyman Soylu, was more explicit: “This coup has America behind,” he twitted in his Twitter account.
The Obama administration’s caution over the scary Incirlik impasse appears to derive from trepidation, shared by Riyadh, Cairo and Jerusalem, that the autocratic Turkish ruler’s Stalinist purge reaching into all branches of government and all walks of Turkish society is part and parcel of a comprehensive Muslim revolution underway in Turkey. An incautious word from Washington may quicken the process.
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Reagan and Gorbachev had mutual admiration for each other. We know how that ended.
Not saying it's a bad thing - just is opposite what the rest of the field was doing. Probably why he is the nominee.
Not yet. While I am 100% certain the Rep. keep the house, and 90% certain they keep the Senate, I am still 50/50 on the presidency, just because so much can happen between now and then.
Like dead people voting, people being bused around from county to county, funny machines, people with boxes full of votes in their trunks, etc
...and then there is voter intimidation. This happens to ironically have happened in Philly on election day '08. Of course Eric Holder didn't see a need to prosecute.
K then maybe you should refrain from making such assured statements. Trump is going to get trounced, and I have no idea what you've seen in the polls to indicate otherwise.
Almost every poll that has come out: CNN, Rasmussen, Quinnipiac, LA Times, CBS, Gravis, PPD, etc. Not to mention Nate Silver
I am not sure what you are getting your info from.
And Trump may lose, but he wont lose by much.
I suggest you do a little more research.
If you read Silver's piece, he cautioned heavily against taking much from a convention bump. I probably overstated in saying that Trump would get trounced (as you did in declaring that November 8th would definitively be a great day for republicans), but I still see absolutely no way that he wins. And I think once the dust settles from the two conventions, Hillary will remain the clear favorite in the polls. Also, I have to seriously question how a day in which Donald Trump is elected president would a "great day" and not an unmitigated disaster.
I can understand that. But you can say the same thing about Hillary. It blows my mind the way people are obsessed with her, when she has accomplished absolutely nothing in her life, on top of all the negatives associated with her.
Knowing that you're exaggerating, just venting your prejudices and personal perceptions of national and world events, I'll add something anyway. "our Military and Security have been mostly depleted" .Sooooo, you think the U.S. military would not handle Russia if it had too ? That's an insult to all those service men and women. That is a dark and scary world you are choosing to live in bro. Islamists, daesh have no doubt killed more than a few Russians in Syria. They are likely the ones who killed approximately 200 Russians on that Egyptian plane too. Russian policy and tactics are often brutal. The alpha male in me has always admired that hard ass quality, to a degree. They essentially wiped Islamic Chechnya-part of their own empire at one point- from existence. Some of Russia's technology, geography is enviable. There is nothing else in Putin's Russia
or the USSR that is or was inspirational. It is just cold and just hard.
I'm far from obsessed with her, and most of the other democrats I know feel the same way. I think she's hawkish, scheming, and will do anything to get elected, even if it means crossing the line. BUT, she's not Trump, a demagogue who has absolutely no idea what he's doing and is incapable of even forming a coherent policy thought beyond that stilted "Make America Great Again" shit. I mean, he literally offered Kasich the VP position with the promise that he would be in charge of foreign and domestic policy...which is, like, the entire job of the presidency. He doesn't have a clue, and that's why I'm voting for her.
"While I am 100% certain the Rep. keep the house"
gerrymandering, incumbency should see to that ; /
@Ron Munson
no way hillary makes it to the white house
the russians have those 33,000 emails that hillary accidentally deleted.
wikileaks have them and will slowly be releasing them.
the connections with isis and gun running, overthrowing assad and qhadaffy, as well as connecting funds funneled thru clinton foundation by those saudis who orchestrated 9/11
shyts gonna hit the fan, when americans find out what obama and the clintons have been doing behind our backs
yea. came here to post this.
@MaxCalifornia, im sorry that you have no understanding of world affairs or history, but the post that @toolucky52384 is responding to is a clown post bro. Russian doesnt get attacked by terrorists? hahahah.
Hardly ever on Russian ground. Get out more and quit going to the local JuCo for your info.
so i suppose the attack on the USS cole doesnt count then? how about benghazi?
Compare that to the amount of recent attacks on US soil by the lowest level of Terrorists. I'll eagerly await your response. Our own president doesn't even label the attacks "terrorism." We funded ISIS ourselves.
putin states terrorism is an issue with russia- here is his 2016 speech
not from media- from horses mouth
exact quote from our president, who i did not vote for, and whose party i have voted for once in my life...
"So whatever the motivations of the killer, whatever influences led him down the path of violence and terror, whatever propaganda he was consuming from ISIL and al Qaeda, this was an act of terrorism"
all Islamic terrorism in russia:
2002 Russia - 170 deaths in hostage crisis.
2003 Russia - 59 deaths in suicide bombing
2004 Russia - 2 bombings with 51 deaths, 385 killed in a hostage crisis
2010 Russia - Moscow Bombings - 40 deaths
2011 Russia - Airport Bombing - 37 deaths
2012 Russia - Makhachkala attack 14 deaths
2013 Russia - Gronzy Bombing - 6 deaths
2014 Russia - Gronzy clashes - 26 deaths
2015 Russia - Dagestan - 1 death ISIL shooter
As already demonstrated ITT, particularlyby the two immediately preceeding two posts, you have no idea what you are talking out.
Did you believe the numbers the US government put out before 2008? Of course you did, because politics is a team sport. Go Team!
Max you need facts before typing, There has been several Terriorist attack against Russians for example:
http://journal-neo.org/2014/12/07/l...k-in-russia-has-all-the-marks-of-made-in-usa/
