The logic is not easy to refute. You are throwing assumptions like TL throws spirals..LOL.
We will see about Qanon. If its fake, then I am trolled....will own it. One thing for sure though, Teflon Don living rent free between yalls ears 24X7.
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The logic is not easy to refute. You are throwing assumptions like TL throws spirals..LOL.
We will see about Qanon. If its fake, then I am trolled....will own it. One thing for sure though, Teflon Don living rent free between yalls ears 24X7.
It would be funny except they are correct more often than the msm. Keep watching. Flynn is about to be exonerated.
If you read the actual court document, youd find you fell for the fake news. But hey reading is hard, posting screenshots off facebook is easy.
Haha. Nice try. Yeah the judge would not allow "criminal contempt"; he none the less
stated this right up front.
"For the reasons that follow, the Court will deny the motion. Although the Court agrees that the government violated Rule 57.7, it disagrees that contempt proceedings are an appropriate response to that violation. Instead, the Court has entered an order limiting public statements about this case moving forward and cautions the government that any future violations of that order will trigger a range of potential sanctions."
@firegiver is right, you fell for the fake news.Didn't do that at all. Tere is an obvious difference between Trump and associates colluding with Russia and a few Russian Bot farms buying some FB ads.
Here, Try this on:
That order is about a private firm being linked to the Russian government and since the report says the Russian government is guilty, is it going to prejudice the court case against the private firm.
The private firm says 'yes' so Mueller and Barr should be held in contempt. But this order ends:
CONCLUSION For the foregoing reasons, it is ORDERED that Concord’s motion for an order to show cause why Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III and Attorney General William P. Barr should not be held in contempt is DENIED
So it is correct to say that either, you didn't read the order or you were not able to understand the order. I have no idea how you thought that posting that tweet was a good idea.
This part is correct: That order is about a private firm being linked to the Russian government and since the report says the Russian government is guilty, is it going to prejudice the court case against the private firm.
This was the contention (from the defendants Concord):
Concord’s main contention is that the Special Counsel’s Report, as released to the public, and the Attorney General’s related public statements improperly suggested a link between the defendants and the Russian government and expressed an opinion about the defendants’ guilt and the evidence against them.
It had nothing to do with if the Russian government was guilty or not. You fell for fake news.
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You seem to be paddling up the river of DE NILE. The facts do NOT support your biased opinion, adjust your understanding and opinion based on the facts in front of you, or risk being exposed as a being completely aloof in your confirmation bias. Facts, as John Adams put it, are stubborn things, but our minds are even more stubborn.
Wrong again! I have not stated, nor linked to anything that states whether or not the Russian gov't is guilty or not guilty of anything at all. When the judge states that the gov't broke the rule, and warns them from making public statements going forward, then I did not fall for anything. You guys are trying to find a victory anywhere you can conjure up one. lol!
I am looking forward to Mueller's public testimony next week!! (If it actually happens).
"For the reasons that follow, the Court will deny the motion. Although the Court agrees that the government violated Rule 57.7, it disagrees that contempt proceedings are an appropriate response to that violation. Instead, the Court has entered an order limiting public statements about this case moving forward and cautions the government that any future violations of that order will trigger a range of potential sanctions."
I visited with Gen Clapper just a few days ago as he was the featured speaker at my nephew’s retirement from the Navy as a Commander at the Navy Yard in Washington. My nephew was a personal assistant to Clapper when he was Director of National Intelligence and their families are close. I have the highest regard for him. And my nephew is very conservative politically and has even higher regard for Gen Clapper.
I have never heard any intelligent person say “Russia gave the election to Trump.” I have heard people say that Russia did everything it could to influence America’s electoral process and the Russians were very successful in planting false news in social media. There is a difference and you don’t have to be a college graduate to understand it.
There is no connection between your first and second paragraphs. You have a personal connection and regard for Clapper and thats fine, but its not affecting my viewpoint and others viewpoints on what happened. This will be hatched out by the DOJ and we should all find out one way or another.
Without a doubt Russia attempts to cause trouble here in the US, but its always went on. This one was maginified and overstated by the deep state to justify what was done to candidate Trump.
Deep state. Deep state. Deep state. There is no deep state. Do you think there is an organized conspiracy across government agencies just suddenly leapt into being when Trump was elected?
Conspiracy theorists abound, particularly under this administration. But it just ain’t there.
Conspiracy theorists abound, particularly under this administration. But it just ain’t there.
Trump benefited from Russia fake news social media campaigns. This is a fact that is supported by scientific findings by our own Clemson University. One of the fake news narratives is the deep state one. Trump hates this fact and has generated this narrative that our own intelligence departments are 'deep state' or politically motivated, its nonsense in the context that our cia, nsa and/or fbi are simply out to get Trump. Thats the only way though, if you are Trump, that you can explain how your campaign is under investigation.
Deep State theory arose from Republicans having the Presidency, Judiciary, and both houses of Congress at the same time in 2017 and 2018 and not having anyone to point at when their legislative agenda stalled.
Weird moment to pick. Why is it your favorite? My favorite is probably We got em. My least favorite was the entire debate and nonsense over ACA.
Sarcastic. It is sad that this moment is the first thing That comes to mind about Obama. Even before Bin Laden. And that is sad.
Maybe so. But then again I believe it was just happenstance that he was president when we, the military, got Bin laden.
yah you seem to have given the subject a ton of thought, so I hold your opinion in high regard.
That's possible but you should also understand that this logic can be applied to a lot of the stuff we judge Presidents for (rightly or wrongly). For instance, I believe centuries of data suggest that Trump has very little to do with current stock market performance and unemployment numbers but it is the thing people tend to cite the most as one of his positives.
Even ignoring the Bin Laden thing, having the "beer summit" be the first thing that jumps to your mind is super weird. With Obamacare being such a "disaster", one would think that could stick out as a stronger memory?
Obama had an epic failure with the NSA's privacy breaches and you choose this moment to criticize?
Yeah, even liberals were pissed at the Obama administration for NSA and the expansion of all of the drone strikes.
Meanwhile, we have a president who spent from 2000 on criticizing multiple executives in the White House now suggesting that anyone who doesn't agree with HIM, should leave the country.
Moreover, to suggest that duly-elected members of Congress (and one has to be a US Citizen to be elected) should "go back to where they came from" should be an affront to every American. This president knows that the only way he wins re-election is to further divide Americans, largely along racial lines.
He has got to go. The sooner the better. Goodness knows, even Mike Pence would almost be a breath of fresh air.
Moreover, to suggest that duly-elected members of Congress (and one has to be a US Citizen to be elected) should "go back to where they came from" should be an affront to every American. This president knows that the only way he wins re-election is to further divide Americans, largely along racial lines.
He has got to go. The sooner the better. Goodness knows, even Mike Pence would almost be a breath of fresh air.
He's got a good thing going by acting ridiculous and crazy, so everyone talks about that rather than Epstein's accuser saying she was molested by Trump at Epstein parties.
Clapper took a gig with CNN and he and Brennan both, have breathlessly called Trump a traitor and they both knew it was bullshit when they said it.
Stay tuned. OIG and Durham are coming.
I love it. I think we have "Stay tuned" like a hundred different times to stuff you predicted on this forum, just for nothing to ever happen.
How does Hillary look in her prison jumpsuit?
Refreshing to have a President like Trump. A true leader to turn the economy around that Bummer tried to destroy. Also, refreshing to have high ethical standards and integrity unlike Bummer who used the office to spy on his political opponents. Imagine the Repub ramming a fake document to justify spying on a political opponent?! The conversation would have been much different the last two years. Dem leadership are scum.
Hurd: Is this –– in your investigation, did you think that this was a single attempt by the Russians to get involved in our election? Or did you find evidence to suggest they'll try to do this again.To say, as your article does, that bot farm activity was some serious intrusion into the election and affected the election in any meaningful way, is just ridiculous.
Mueller: It wasn't a single attempt. They're doing it as we sit here. And they expect to do it during the next campaign.
Thoughts?
They've always done it; using whatever means were/are viable at the time.
FBI Director, Wray, just testified before Congress that China is biggest threat. If you believe the guy, (name escapes me at the moment), who testified before the Senate Google hearings, Google is a bigger threat to affect elections than any country.
Concerning Trump, this has nothing to do with him. Obama was president when any of it happened. Mueller also stated today that his investigation found that the Russians preferred Trump win. I find that incredulous as he openly admitted that he did not investigate any of the documented Russian collusion with Clinton campaign.
I don't want to impugn the man, but it was obvious to me, (from watching the testimony today), that Mueller was nothing but a figure head; as SC. Andrew Weismann was obviously the guy running the show.
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It is amazing that we have a President with the integrity of Donald J Trump. The Mueller testimony today was a JOKE! Any socialist/communist regressive liberal should be embarrassed.
I still maintain my assertion that there is no reliable proof that the Russian hacked the DNC servers. I also maintain that we'll find out soon enough. So, when Mueller and others state that the Russians wanted Trump to win the election, on what are they basing their assertions? Bot Farms? Kind of weak when the total amount of money spent by Russian Bot Farms was less than $200K.
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I didnt watch the whole thing, but id say that corporations manipulating internet results to fuel their agendas.. Is a billion dollar industry. I was dejected when citizens united was ruled by our Supreme court as constitutional. Thanks Roberts.
Heres the thing though, conservatives want corporations to be able to manipulate the system, unless its a liberal leaning Corporation. Reverse citizens united and conservatives would have a sound argument, otherwise, its a free market, dont use Google.
The UK’s National Cyber Security Center, which is a public-facing branch of the UK’s GCHQ spy agency, has published the latest cyber attack claims — writing that it has “identified that a number of cyber actors widely known to have been conducting cyber attacks around the world are, in fact, the GRU”.
The hackers used Mimikatz, a hacking tool used once an intruder is already in a target network, to collect credentials, and two other kinds of malware: X-Agent for taking screenshots and logging keystrokes, and X-Tunnel used to exfiltrate massive amounts of data from the network to servers controlled by the GRU. Mueller’s report found that Unit 26165 used several “middle servers” to act as a buffer between the hacked networks and the GRU’s main operations. Those servers, Mueller said, were hosted in Arizona — likely as a way to obfuscate where the attackers were located but also to avoid suspicion or detection.
According to a report in the Dutch newspaper de Volkskrant, the General Intelligence and Security Service of the Netherlands (AIVD)—the Netherlands' domestic intelligence service—had hacked into the network of a building at a Russian university in Moscow some time in the summer of 2014. The building housed a group running a hacking campaign now known as "Cozy Bear," one of the "threat groups" that would later target the Democratic National Committee.
AIVD's intrusion into the network gave them access to computers used by the group behind Cozy Bear and to the closed-circuit television cameras that watched over them, allowing them to literally witness everything that took place in the building near Red Square, according to the report. Access to the video cameras in a hallway outside the space where the Russian hacking team worked allowed the AIVD to get images of every person who entered the room and match them against known Russian intelligence agents and officials.
We have substantial digital evidence of the Russian hackers.
