MSNBC Reporter Asks Trump Supporters Stupid Question About Jan 6, Gets Humiliated on National TV – Has No Idea About What Really Happened that Day

[TigerGrowls]

Wow! Extremely surprised they actually aired this video. Love these folks.

MSNBC Reporter Asks Trump Supporters Stupid Question About Jan 6, Gets Humiliated on National TV - Has No Idea About What Really Happened that Day | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

MSNBC reporter Elise Jordan attempted to stump Trump supporters about Jan 6 in a recent focus group in Pittsburgh, PA. In the end, she was the one who got slapped down and corrected. Unfortunately for Elise, she believes her own lies and she has no grasp of the facts.

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By Joe Hoft
Published October 24, 2022 at 9:00pm

MSNBC reporter Elise Jordan attempted to stump Trump supporters about Jan 6 in a recent focus group in Pittsburgh, PA. In the end, she was the one who got slapped down and corrected.
Unfortunately for Elise, she believes her own lies and she has no grasp of the facts.
It really is no surprise that MSNBC reporters are not well-versed in the truth on many topics. Elise Jordan exemplified this perfectly.
The Trump supporters knew what they were talking about when the subject turned to Jan 6. When the reporter asked them questions they responded with numerous facts about the events of that day and not the folklore pushed by the media.
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Redstate reported:

One of the more frustrating things in the aftermath of the Capitol riot has been the left’s/mainstream media’s continued insistence on labeling anyone and everyone who went to then-President Trump’s “Stop the Steal” rally and/or who agreed with him that there were shenanigans at play during the 2020 election as traitors to their country even though the vast majority of those who were in attendance that day did not take part in the breaching of the Capitol, which was said to have began while Trump was still speaking.

Needless to say, this has caused much heartbreak and gnashing of teeth among Democrats who thought for sure that endless sham “hearings” into the events of that day would move the needle in their direction.

The truth is four Trump supporters were killed on Jan 6. Ashli Bobbitt was shot in cold blood by Lt. Michael Byrd. Rosanne Boyland was smothered and beaten to death on the steps of the US Capitol. Two other Trump supporters had flash bombs blow up in their faces and they died after police started firing on peaceful protesters without warning.

Newly Obtained Body Cam Footage Shows Clear View of Officers Violently Assaulting Rosanne Boyland Before Her Death As She Lay Unconscious on Jan. 6 | The Gateway Pundit | by Julian Conradson

Officer Lila Morris beating Trump supporters on Jan.

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Some Capitol police were monsters on that day and should be arrested for their actions but none have been arrested to date.

Prosecutors Identify Psychotic Police Captain Who Beat the Hell Out of Woman with Metal Baton Nearly to Death and Bashed Her in the Face on Jan. 6th | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Victoria White from Rochester, Minnesota attended the Stop the Steal rally in Washington DC on January 6th.

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There is so much that MSNBC is not reporting and so many lies that they are reporting on that it is no wonder its reporter has no idea what the Trump supporters she interviewed were saying.
Below is the interview with MSNBC:

 

[TigerGrowls]

Another interesting fact on J6. The govt used the same technology that was used to compile data for the 2000 Mules Documentary that has been dismissed by the left, but oh yes they are happy to throw American citizens in the DC Gulag using the same technology.

Ignored by the Fake News: Special Agent Testifies FBI Used Geo Tracking to Identify Trump Supporters at US Capitol on Jan. 6 Similar to '2000 Mules' Investigation | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

As long suspected, but not confirmed until October 13, 2022, the FBI testified that geo-tracking data is accurate and reliable.

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[dpic73]

It might surprise you but there's a completely different take on this in some quarters.

 

[TheSweatshirt]

It’s too bad that you are depriving The Gateway Pundit its advertising revenue by posting EVERY EFFING STORY they write on this site.

What other news sources do you read, just out of curiosity?

 

[PawJourney]

It might surprise you but there's a completely different take on this in some quarters.

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Meaningful debate and discussion stops the minute you label someone who disagrees with your position as crazy or another derogatory term designed to marginalize the person and in turn marginalize the idea. The debate of ideas works if both sides are civil and willing to hear the other ideas with an open mind. A great idea or policy should transcend political affiliation. Sadly, Americans are more concerned about being right than considering, after true evaluation, what is right.

 

[AugTig]

It might surprise you but there's a completely different take on this in some quarters.

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Thank you for posting this. This will likely be the only time I thank you. You just proved yourself to be the biggest doofus on this board. This video shows that most Americans know exactly what is going on. The “reporter” got called out on her bs narrative bait and switch. You should follower her on twitter and keep us updated. Comedy is good for all. Btw, I’m well aware of the chosen panel was purposeful and that didn’t go over my head. Unfortunately for you, it makes you look even less knowledgeable. This is America and we are dang tired of the nonsense. The red wave is coming and it may be so large that you and your like can’t cheat enough to steal it.

 

[dpic73]

Meaningful debate and discussion stops the minute you label someone who disagrees with your position as crazy or another derogatory term designed to marginalize the person and in turn marginalize the idea. The debate of ideas works if both sides are civil and willing to hear the other ideas with an open mind. A great idea or policy should transcend political affiliation. Sadly, Americans are more concerned about being right than considering, after true evaluation, what is right.

Sorry bud, you don't get to lecture me here about who is right or wrong if the side you're on doesn't give two shits about the truth and only wants to provide cover for a criminal. These people stated:

- Police invited them into the Capitol
- They believe it was Antifa that smeared shit on the walls
- It was a mostly peaceful protest
- President Trump couldn't have done anything to stop it
- Democratic operatives were behind the breach
- Nancy Pelosi denied the request for security
- Every one of them agreed the election was fraudulent
- Votes changed overnight - somehow

This was not a "meaningful debate" as you call it. These people have been brainwashed by right-wing media and don't care about the actual facts. If they are this easy to manipulate, they deserve to be marginalized and called crazy. If you believe these people's thoughts need to be respectfully considered, you might need to do some self-evaluation on your own moral compass.

 

[dpic73]

Thank you for posting this. This will likely be the only time I thank you. You just proved yourself to be the biggest doofus on this board. This video shows that most Americans know exactly what is going on. The “reporter” got called out on her bs narrative bait and switch. You should follower her on twitter and keep us updated. Comedy is good for all. Btw, I’m well aware of the chosen panel was purposeful and that didn’t go over my head. Unfortunately for you, it makes you look even less knowledgeable. This is America and we are dang tired of the nonsense. The red wave is coming and it may be so large that you and your like can’t cheat enough to steal it.

How many days did it take you to write this abjectly stupid paragraph that means nothing?

Let's quit pretending that someone as dumb as yourself knows what's going on. You believe what Trump and TigerGrowls tell you and you're unable to formulate an independent thought worthy of an actual discussion.

So shut the fvck up you little troll

 

[firegiver]

Meaningful debate and discussion stops the minute you label someone who disagrees with your position as crazy or another derogatory term designed to marginalize the person and in turn marginalize the idea. The debate of ideas works if both sides are civil and willing to hear the other ideas with an open mind. A great idea or policy should transcend political affiliation. Sadly, Americans are more concerned about being right than considering, after true evaluation, what is right.

So when Trump won the election and started calling facts fake news, was that to encourage debate? When he stated that he could gun someone down in broad daylight and wouldn't lose a vote, was that touting his courage and accountability? When he made up the lie that he won the 2020 election and riled his base up at a speech and told them to march with him to the capitol, was that for a great meeting of the minds to find a path best for America?
Such bullshit. Whats right? Who GAF about whats right these days? Certainly not MAGA freaks like the one that started this thread.

 

[PawJourney]

So when Trump won the election and started calling facts fake news, was that to encourage debate? When he stated that he could gun someone down in broad daylight and wouldn't lose a vote, was that touting his courage and accountability? When he made up the lie that he won the 2020 election and riled his base up at a speech and told them to march with him to the capitol, was that for a great meeting of the minds to find a path best for America?
Such bullshit. Whats right? Who GAF about whats right these days? Certainly not MAGA freaks like the one that started this thread.

I apply my standards EQUALLY to both parties because I'm a Libertarian. I do not subscribe to ANTI-FA tactics of the far left or the extremists of the right. MAGA is not an accurate description because most everyone I know that supported Trump are more peaceful than the Democrats that I know. When one objectively assesses the facts, both mainstream political parties are deeply flawed. The Democrats are a bit worse than me for because they do not consistently follow the rule of law, they supported the defund the police movement, they ridiculous energy policies (don't buy oil at home because it's bad for the environment but it's okay to buy from abroad 🤨), and use government funding for programs that are tantamount to vote buying. I do not feel safer or more financially secure with the current Democrat class. I miss Bill Clinton and the more moderate Democrats because they gave me a choice in insanity.

To answer your point, I am extremely appalled at Trump's behavior after he lost the election. He failed the leadership test. If the government has a case it can prove in court, then I'm in favor of prosecuting him for a crime. I am in favor of prosecuting him as a political maneuver. Trump's reckless rhetoric is a driver in the schism of America.

I am equally appalled at Hillary Clinton for funding and promoting the Russian dossier and refusing to recognize the election. She also failed the leadership test in that political maneuver when she didn't come clean over its falsity because she knew it was garbage. Her behavior helped drive a schism and her narrative cost the federal government millions of dollars to find out the truth. Her rhetoric is also a driver in the schism of America.

I'm equally appalled how both of theses former federal employees handled federal records in their possession because both appear to have broken the law. To follow the law, both should be prosecuted.

While I would eliminate most of government because constitutionally there are LIMITED reasons to have it, it is an unnecessary evil. People should rely upon it for safety and other services that only the government is positioned to support. The rest should be handled at the individual level.

The people should rely on themselves to make it in life and not rely on government handouts. As an example, if you want to attend college, great. You'll receive that benefit so you get to pay for it, so consider what you can afford (just like you do when you buy a house or car). Harvard and even Emory have huge endowments so if you're poor, they can and will let you attend for free if you are meritworthy. (Even they don't give free handouts to those who don't earn it.)

When the USA can take care of its existing population (homeless, poor, disenfranchised), then it can open the border to more immigrants. Until then, the USA does not have the infrastructure to add more dependents into this country and needs to actively manage immigration. The USA has always had immigration limits (go visit Ellis Island for a rich history lesson), so having a policy on this is not racist or whatever inflammatory du jour term the left uses on any given day. It is a responsible measure that all nations implement.

It's really sad that people selectively apply standards on a one-sided basis. The media is one-sided (they all pick a side and the Democrats win that count in number but Fox drives in more viewership). Most people tune into the media version that validates their personal position rather than listening to both media and figuring out what makes sense.

Fighting an argument with inflammatory labels is my first indicator the person is a hot trigger and incapable of a meritorious consideration of what is best for America. America does not benefit from that and I love this country.

 

[PawJourney]

Sorry bud, you don't get to lecture me here about who is right or wrong if the side you're on doesn't give two shits about the truth and only wants to provide cover for a criminal. These people stated:

- Police invited them into the Capitol
- They believe it was Antifa that smeared shit on the walls
- It was a mostly peaceful protest
- President Trump couldn't have done anything to stop it
- Democratic operatives were behind the breach
- Nancy Pelosi denied the request for security
- Every one of them agreed the election was fraudulent
- Votes changed overnight - somehow

This was not a "meaningful debate" as you call it. These people have been brainwashed by right-wing media and don't care about the actual facts. If they are this easy to manipulate, they deserve to be marginalized and called crazy. If you believe these people's thoughts need to be respectfully considered, you might need to do some self-evaluation on your own moral compass.

Tried to link my response but if the link doesn't work read below. You mistakenly believe I am a Republican. I'm not. I'm a Libertarian who is unrepresented at all levels so I'm stuck having to pick between two pretty poor choices at a moment.

MSNBC Reporter Asks Trump Supporters Stupid Question About Jan 6, Gets Humiliated on National TV – Has No Idea About What Really Happened that Day

Wow! Extremely surprised they actually aired this video. Love these folks. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/msnbc-reporter-fails-asking-trump-supporters-jan-6-no-idea-truth-day/ By Joe Hoft Published October 24, 2022 at 9:00pm MSNBC reporter Elise Jordan attempted to stump Trump...

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[Willence]

- Police invited them into the Capitol
- They believe it was Antifa that smeared shit on the walls
- It was a mostly peaceful protest
- President Trump couldn't have done anything to stop it
- Democratic operatives were behind the breach
- Nancy Pelosi denied the request for security
- Every one of them agreed the election was fraudulent
- Votes changed overnight - somehow

By previously used definitions, a lot of these statements are accurate if you use that standard. But...

Votes changed overnight because they were still being counted. There were NUMEROUS experts on the left and right who monitor elections that stated the results would change given the location and numbers of votes that were not counted. I went to bed knowing Trump has lost. It was pretty self-evident and I'm not even an expert.

The way votes were allowed in that election was outside the boundaries of many state laws. It was an unacceptable situation. The time to deal with that was before the election and I know decisions were made at the last minute to try and thwart that process which should have literally held up the election until they were resolved. States like Pennsylvania completely defied their own Constitution in the election. That is not a subjective view. It's an objective reality.

It's hard to say what happened with the security. But it is also true that there was a lack of adequate security that day. In Washington, it's all about the blame game. In that process, the partisan lines blur the simple reality that there wasn't enough security.

I don't know if it was Antifa or not but I can say for certain I have witnessed people going to great lengths to portray a group in an inaccurate light by staging pictures. I watched it happen back in 2010. To think that there aren't people who want to stage things on both sides to make them look bad is to ignore all reality.

By previous definition, it was a mostly peaceful protest. That being said, in my book it was a riot and totally unacceptable and it created massive discord, fear and stress on the part of so many people. Those who participated should have been arrested, prosecuted and jailed/fined but they should not have been held without bail for months on end as they were.

 

[hopefultiger13]

This makes me laugh... Antifa didn't have anything to do with January 6th any more than the white nationalists had anything to do with the 2020 riots/looting. You don't have to do anything more than look at the crowds to see that. Were there operatives from those groups there? I don't know, but I know damn well that those rioters were not White Nationalists by and large. The January 6th mob was NOT antifa either.

Both these groups were made up of criminals. Period. You want to protest? Fine. I've no problem with that. But when you start attacking the police and breaking and burning stuff, you aren't a protester any more, you are a criminal.

Since the thread is about January 6th, what a load of crap from the Trump supporters. So the cops invited you in and you attack them? REALLY? Because I don't know about the invite, but there's PLENTY of film where obvious Trump supporters were fighting with the cops and breaking windows to get into the Capitol. There's plenty of film showing them chanting for the death of the VP of the United States and the Speaker of the House while they are breaking into the Capitol where those folks were in session.

I know OP tries to tell you that there's nothing to see here... But that's simply not true. These folks attacked the very heart of America and I'm OK with them getting some prison time.

As for holding them w/o bail? That's unfortunate. FWIW, I do believe that a lot of these folks did get caught up in the mob mentality and a couple or three months in jail would be appropriate rather than this. BUT on the other side of things... these folks didn't attack a random building ... They attacked the capitol building while congress was in session. That's a big deal. There's going to be investigations to see whether this was a planned attack or not. It would be remiss if law enforcement didn't do this. So you get held as an enemy combatant... too bad, so sad... But again, you attacked the US Capitol.

 

[firegiver]

I apply my standards EQUALLY to both parties because I'm a Libertarian. I do not subscribe to ANTI-FA tactics of the far left or the extremists of the right. MAGA is not an accurate description because most everyone I know that supported Trump are more peaceful than the Democrats that I know. When one objectively assesses the facts, both mainstream political parties are deeply flawed. The Democrats are a bit worse than me for because they do not consistently follow the rule of law, they supported the defund the police movement, they ridiculous energy policies (don't buy oil at home because it's bad for the environment but it's okay to buy from abroad 🤨), and use government funding for programs that are tantamount to vote buying. I do not feel safer or more financially secure with the current Democrat class. I miss Bill Clinton and the more moderate Democrats because they gave me a choice in insanity.

To answer your point, I am extremely appalled at Trump's behavior after he lost the election. He failed the leadership test. If the government has a case it can prove in court, then I'm in favor of prosecuting him for a crime. I am in favor of prosecuting him as a political maneuver. Trump's reckless rhetoric is a driver in the schism of America.

I am equally appalled at Hillary Clinton for funding and promoting the Russian dossier and refusing to recognize the election. She also failed the leadership test in that political maneuver when she didn't come clean over its falsity because she knew it was garbage. Her behavior helped drive a schism and her narrative cost the federal government millions of dollars to find out the truth. Her rhetoric is also a driver in the schism of America.

I'm equally appalled how both of theses former federal employees handled federal records in their possession because both appear to have broken the law. To follow the law, both should be prosecuted.

While I would eliminate most of government because constitutionally there are LIMITED reasons to have it, it is an unnecessary evil. People should rely upon it for safety and other services that only the government is positioned to support. The rest should be handled at the individual level.

The people should rely on themselves to make it in life and not rely on government handouts. As an example, if you want to attend college, great. You'll receive that benefit so you get to pay for it, so consider what you can afford (just like you do when you buy a house or car). Harvard and even Emory have huge endowments so if you're poor, they can and will let you attend for free if you are meritworthy. (Even they don't give free handouts to those who don't earn it.)

When the USA can take care of its existing population (homeless, poor, disenfranchised), then it can open the border to more immigrants. Until then, the USA does not have the infrastructure to add more dependents into this country and needs to actively manage immigration. The USA has always had immigration limits (go visit Ellis Island for a rich history lesson), so having a policy on this is not racist or whatever inflammatory du jour term the left uses on any given day. It is a responsible measure that all nations implement.

It's really sad that people selectively apply standards on a one-sided basis. The media is one-sided (they all pick a side and the Democrats win that count in number but Fox drives in more viewership). Most people tune into the media version that validates their personal position rather than listening to both media and figuring out what makes sense.

Fighting an argument with inflammatory labels is my first indicator the person is a hot trigger and incapable of a meritorious consideration of what is best for America. America does not benefit from that and I love this country.

Firstly, I hate the Clintons and the Bush's and Reagan. But I would challenge you that what Hillary did was NOT equal to what Trump did and is in the act of doing. Hillary, even though she got more votes than trump, conceded the election. Trump is threatening our republic with a civil war by denying the election results and saying things he KNOWS are not true, in order to get people on his side.

There are militias training right now. Filled with Trump supporters. They aren't training to overthrow our government... they are training to be the brown shirts for our government when Trump is reelected. They will be the ones shooting into the crowds of BLM protestors while the police look on. You watch buddy, itll ****ing happen.

Trump is not about conservative values. He's about power. He has no accountability and he's shown the GOP that they need not bother with it either. They are putting forth (and so are democrats to a lesser degree) policies that gurantee our children will grow up in a very un civil place. Cutting taxes and regulations on corporations, while trying to do EVERYTHING in their power to cut education and undermine the free press. Its a perfect combination for a terrible country, filled with uninformed workers slaves for the undying corporate citizens who can now do whatever they want until the end of time.

All this is happening while people are distracted, talking about securing our boarders, and doing away with government handouts. How can you priortize those values when the world is catching on fire all around you? GOP went off the rails, won't listen to facts and are trying to mortgage our future for their corporate friends. We need accountability and rationality in public office. Listening to you EXCUSE Trump and equate his actions to Hilary, is not constructive, its infuriating. I see you want to have a discussion, good, please do it. But don't act like leftists are somehow equally culpable to whats taking place. They don't have the power in this country, capitalists do.

 

[firegiver]

Tried to link my response but if the link doesn't work read below. You mistakenly believe I am a Republican. I'm not. I'm a Libertarian who is unrepresented at all levels so I'm stuck having to pick between two pretty poor choices at a moment.

MSNBC Reporter Asks Trump Supporters Stupid Question About Jan 6, Gets Humiliated on National TV – Has No Idea About What Really Happened that Day

Wow! Extremely surprised they actually aired this video. Love these folks. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/msnbc-reporter-fails-asking-trump-supporters-jan-6-no-idea-truth-day/ By Joe Hoft Published October 24, 2022 at 9:00pm MSNBC reporter Elise Jordan attempted to stump Trump...

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I think Libertarians should move to Mars with Musk. Like stop typing on my government funded internet bro. Shouldn't you be out building toll roads or burning a library, sheesh.

 

[PawJourney]

I think Libertarians should move to Mars with Musk. Like stop typing on my government funded internet bro. Shouldn't you be out building toll roads or burning a library, sheesh.

Your response demonstrates the art of name-calling to those who have a divergent opinion of your own and an inability to address issues on their merit. That's definitely you're right and I support your rant at me and those who do not embrace BIG government. You do yourself a grave disservice for not considering the merits of other's position.

If we have to live under a government, then there is no country on earth at the moment that I'd live in. The Founding Father's were brilliant in now they structured a balanced form of government. Too bad that American political classes and citizens are ripping that contract with the People up.

 

[firegiver]

Your response demonstrates the art of name-calling to those who have a divergent opinion of your own and an inability to address issues on their merit. That's definitely you're right and I support your rant at me and those who do not embrace BIG government. You do yourself a grave disservice for not considering the merits of other's position.

If we have to live under a government, then there is no country on earth at the moment that I'd live in. The Founding Father's were brilliant in now they structured a balanced form of government. Too bad that American political classes and citizens are ripping that contract with the People up.

The founders made a living document capable of changing along with the times. The disservice victimizing our fellow citizens is the erosion of checks and balances and capitalism run amok.
Let's take an issue like jobs for example. Good paying jobs started leaving this country after Nixon made good with communist China. The Reagan Republicans who inherited their textile mills from their parents sold their equipment and training to China for a quick buck. Now the current model for corporations is to export labour wherever they can abuse the human work force as much as possible.

The jobs will never come back with the way things are. You can do several things to try to mitigate this issue. As a leftist I'd levy heavy taxes on products originating from outside th country and I'd put those taxes into education and job training programs. Also, I'd work to make corporations worker owned. And i would immediately break apart many of the largest corporations. That way they would do what's in the best interests of the people.

I imagine you'd advocate for something different.

 

[Willence]

The founders made a living document capable of changing along with the times. The disservice victimizing our fellow citizens is the erosion of checks and balances and capitalism run amok.
Let's take an issue like jobs for example. Good paying jobs started leaving this country after Nixon made good with communist China. The Reagan Republicans who inherited their textile mills from their parents sold their equipment and training to China for a quick buck. Now the current model for corporations is to export labour wherever they can abuse the human work force as much as possible.

The jobs will never come back with the way things are. You can do several things to try to mitigate this issue. As a leftist I'd levy heavy taxes on products originating from outside th country and I'd put those taxes into education and job training programs. Also, I'd work to make corporations worker owned. And i would immediately break apart many of the largest corporations. That way they would do what's in the best interests of the people.

I imagine you'd advocate for something different.

Please point out where the Constitution says the government should manage the labor market to the degree it does. And don't say interstate commerce because we're way beyond that point.

Worker owned businesses are something that sounds good but in practice it's a disaster. You must have expertise. Someone ALWAYS siezes power. That the fallacy behind many leftist policies.

As to your view that big corporations are bad most of us on the conservative side would agree with you. Both parties have allowed this to go on and in some cases, people like Senator Dodd and Rep. Frank wanted it so they could have government control of industries. As it so often the case, we say things we support and fail to realize our parties and our government operate in direct contradiction to that which we favor.

The Republicans are about to take over both houses of Congress. GOP supporters will celebrate this and then the most "meaningful" thing we'll see from them will be a deluge of investigations. Will they work with the President? Will the President work with them? Nope on both counts.

The last President to really work with Congress of an opposing party and vice versa was Bill Clinton working with the GOP on implementation of the Contract for America. That cooperation helped produce the best economy and budget situation we've had in my lifetime. That should be the expectation we have of our leaders. It should be our demand. But we're all so tribalized now that we don't see things that way. It's all about getting power to shove one agenda or the other down the people's throat until they scream and vote for the other side. All we get are these wild swings back and forth.

 

[DW4_2016]

I think Libertarians should move to Mars with Musk. Like stop typing on my government funded internet bro. Shouldn't you be out building toll roads or burning a library, sheesh.

tell me more about how the government is helping in your success. because i know you're not saying you didn't build that. (who knew you had so much in common with obama)