New Orleans & Vegas Terrorist Attack

[TigerGrowls]

Disturbing.



Of course, an Islamist terrorist ran over and killed 10 and injured 35 others on Bourbon Street.

America and Europe must wake up.

Islamists are not here to assimilate.

They are here to conquer.

They are the most existential threat.

Get them the hell out of the West.

Open borders are deadly.

Send. Them. Home.

 

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Everyone keep your head on a swivel.

 

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The brother of Shamsud-Din Jabbar spoke with the NYT telling them that radicalization is to blame for what happened.

Abdul Jabbar said his brother converted to Islam at any early age. He made sure to tell them what his brother did “does not represent Islam.”

He described the guy who mowed down innocent people celebrating the New Year as a sweetheart, a nice guy, a friend, and a very smart and caring person. 🤔

He posted videos prior to the attack on FB where he pledged his allegiance to ISIS.

The Feds do not believe he acted alone. 👀

 

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I looked into the background of Matthew A. Livelsberger, the 37-year-old from Colorado Springs who drove a Turo-rented Tesla and blew up at the Trump Hotel in Las Vegas in a huge explosion.

Livelsberger is also a U.S. Army veteran, like the New Orleans ISIS terror suspect. Livelsberger's LinkedIn is no longer online but there are ghost remnants of his background:

• Special forces intelligence sergeant
• Defense analysis and strategic studies degree from Norwich University

Denver7 reporter @TonyKovaleski says Livelsberger served at the same military base as New Orleans jihadist Shamsud-Din Jabbar.

 

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Deport them all.

 

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Our Country is a disaster, a laughing stock all over the World! This is what happens when you have OPEN BORDERS, with weak, ineffective, and virtually nonexistent leadership. The DOJ, FBI, and Democrat state and local prosecutors have not done their job. They are incompetent and corrupt, having spent all of their waking hours unlawfully attacking their political opponent, ME, rather than focusing on protecting Americans from the outside and inside violent SCUM that has infiltrated all aspects of our government, and our Nation itself. Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen to our Country. The CIA must get involved, NOW, before it is too late. The USA is breaking down - A violent erosion of Safety, National Security, and Democracy is taking place all across our Nation. Only strength and powerful leadership will stop it. See you on January 20th. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Donald Trump Truth Social 12:06 AM EST 01/02/25

 

[ANEW]

Guy in Vegas sounds like primarily a suicide with an underlying statement or meaning behind the use of the cybertruck and doing it outside of trump building. Gas cans and a few commercial fireworks augmenting a small bo.b is not a serious attempt to maximize death and destruction. I hope the injured are not injured seriously, but this does not seem like an islamo-crazy or sympathizer to me. Going to be a mental health component to it, ii think.

 

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[ANEW]

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And that was when Joe B still had a few functioning brain cells working together. 18 days to go.

 

[fatpiggy]

Guy in Vegas sounds like primarily a suicide with an underlying statement or meaning behind the use of the cybertruck and doing it outside of trump building. Gas cans and a few commercial fireworks augmenting a small bo.b is not a serious attempt to maximize death and destruction. I hope the injured are not injured seriously, but this does not seem like an islamo-crazy or sympathizer to me. Going to be a mental health component to it, ii think.

Wrong.

He was at the same army base as the Islamic guy who drove through the crowd in New Orleans.

My money is on he was radicalized

 

[DW4_2016]

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Remember when donating to conservative causes didn’t have anything to do with anything a few shooters ago? Weird.

 

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[ANEW]

Wrong.

He was at the same army base as the Islamic guy who drove through the crowd in New Orleans.

My money is on he was radicalized

Do you have a clue as to how many people assigned to Ft Bragg or to Bragg HQ'd units at a given time? it's a lot. Also you have every type of person from the brand new cook at some transportation battalion who was barely mentally fit enough to join the Army to the most highly trained special operators on the planet and everything in-between.

I'm not saying that there isn't a link, but if you objectively look at the two actions, given what we know now... they ain't the same. One was focused on killing others, one was not, at least not primarily.

 

[fatpiggy]

Do you have a clue as to how many people assigned to Ft Bragg or to Bragg HQ'd units at a given time? it's a lot. Also you have every type of person from the brand new cook at some transportation battalion who was barely mentally fit enough to join the Army to the most highly trained special operators on the planet and everything in-between.

I'm not saying that there isn't a link, but if you objectively look at the two actions, given what we know now... they ain't the same. One was focused on killing others, one was not, at least not primarily.

Which one was not focused on killing others?

I think you are mistaken. Setting off a car bomb in front of a tall building is meant to take the building down or at least damage the building and passerbys. Also, if you have seen the cybertruck in public, they tend to draw crowds looking at them. Espescially if it was parked in front of Trump tower. It's a miracle more people werernt injured.

You will see. There are multiple signs coming out, in the past 20 minutes or so, that these guys are connected.

The car bomb was absolutely designed to harm people, not sure how one could argue otherwise. Yes, we can agree he executed very poorly. He misjudged the strength of the cybertruck exoskeleton which contained much of the blast.

 

[ANEW]

Which one was not focused on killing others?

I think you are mistaken. Setting off a car bomb in front of a tall building is meant to take the building down or at least damage the building and passerbys. Also, if you have seen the cybertruck in public, they tend to draw crowds looking at them. Espescially if it was parked in front of Trump tower. It's a miracle more people werernt injured.

You will see. There are multiple signs coming out, in the past 20 minutes or so, that these guys are connected.

The car bomb as absolutely designed to harm people, not sure how one could argue otherwise. Yes, we can agree he executed very poorly. He misjudged the strength of the cybertruck exoskeleton which contained much of the blast.

The guy didn' t kill a lot of people, because that wasn't his focus, IMO. I don't know that from Twitter, but I can infer that because the guy was in the truck when he set it off and there was 1 one! KIA. The guy sitting in the truck. If he wanted to kill a crowd, he would have gone somewhere there was a crowd or he would have waited for one to spontaneously gather because he was driving a hideous looking truck and lots of people would mob it to get a look at it.

The focus was the location (and probably there was meaning in doing it in a Tesla truck as well). Don't get me wrong if the cybertruck wasn't built like it was there would have been more destruction and maybe more injured, dead, but stacking up bodies was not the focus and not the primary way that this guy was going to make his statement.

Also, while the fuel cans are an accelerant, and would ensure that the commercial fireworks went off, this guy hadn't been busily working himself on a bomb to take off the face of the building. There are plenty better things to add to the mix if you really wanted to maximize the boom and/or cause the most casualties from shrapnel.

Hey if this guy in Vegas was a Islamic terrorist then i'll stand corrected, but i think when more info comes out about the guy in Vegas, we'll see that he could have done better job killing people if that was the focus. That's the thing i'm primarily commenting on. But i'd be super surprised if this guy was radicalized by Islam like it appears to be the case in New Orleans

Edit: But I'm also making assumptions that the guy in N.O. was a Jihadi based upon the ISIS flag.

 

[hopefultiger13]

Damn those open borders!

 

[ANEW]

Damn those open borders!

Yes, of course. And your point is what?

 

[hopefultiger13]

Yes, of course. And your point is what?

Just pointing out that these guys were American Citizens and our President Elect blames it all on open borders.

 

[ANEW]

Newsmax and Fox reporting N.O. guy was a lone wolf. Dude in Vegas being reported by CNN to be a Master Sergeant assigned to 10th Spercial Forces Group in Germany as an Operations Sergeant, who was on leave back in Colorado (10th SFG headquartered at Ft Carson, CO with an element forwqard in Germany, BTW). If the reporting on his assignment is true then he was 99+% likely to have been a Green Beret with multiple combat deployments to Afganistan and/or Iraq.

 

[ANEW]

Just pointing out that these guys were American Citizens and our President Elect blames it all on open borders.

I don't think that knowing now that these guys were Citizens he believes that and i don't think you believe what you are saying either. I think you just were looking for any opportunity to express "Trump Bad" ... and I think that Trump is using this to emphasize the danger that an open border poses. Hyperbole from him. Hyperbole from you.

For the record, I didn't like Trumps tweet. But in broad brush strokes he is right... open borders make us more suseptable to terrorist attacks.

There are a large number of terrorists on the watch list walking around the US right now. with an untold number of that we don't know about that have come across our southern border aided by the Biden Adminstration and the entire democrat party. Too bad that we arent talking about one of them being the perp in this case, because then we could cross one off the list.

 

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This is embarrassing.

I wish you, and she, were better than this.

 

[dbjork6317]

Disturbing.

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Of course, an Islamist terrorist ran over and killed 10 and injured 35 others on Bourbon Street.

America and Europe must wake up.

Islamists are not here to assimilate.

They are here to conquer.

They are the most existential threat.

Get them the hell out of the West.

Open borders are deadly.

Send. Them. Home.

He was an American citizen who served in the army. Borders have nothing to do with this.

 

[clempzenbill]

Guy in Vegas sounds like primarily a suicide with an underlying statement or meaning behind the use of the cybertruck and doing it outside of trump building. Gas cans and a few commercial fireworks augmenting a small bo.b is not a serious attempt to maximize death and destruction. I hope the injured are not injured seriously, but this does not seem like an islamo-crazy or sympathizer to me. Going to be a mental health component to it, ii think.

I don't think that knowing now that these guys were Citizens he believes that and i don't think you believe what you are saying either. I think you just were looking for any opportunity to express "Trump Bad" ... and I think that Trump is using this to emphasize the danger that an open border poses. Hyperbole from him. Hyperbole from you.

For the record, I didn't like Trumps tweet. But in broad brush strokes he is right... open borders make us more suseptable to terrorist attacks.

There are a large number of terrorists on the watch list walking around the US right now. with an untold number of that we don't know about that have come across our southern border aided by the Biden Adminstration and the entire democrat party. Too bad that we arent talking about one of them being the perp in this case, because then we could cross one off the list.

I wish we had a list, and if the border were actually a border, we might, but they caught 1,982 on the terrorist watch list, with an unknown number getting through undetected. And yet psychotic people here still defend the demonic Democrats. Truly disgusting and pathetic.

 

[ANEW]

I wish we had a list, and if the border were actually a border, we might, but they caught 1,982 on the terrorist watch list, with an unknown number getting through undetected. And yet psychotic people here still defend the demonic Democrats. Truly disgusting and pathetic.

I agree. And yes I misspoke we don't know how many terrorists have entered but in the millions who have, there are definitely terrorists and that's not counting the gangbangers and cartel members. However most likely conclusion will be that these two attacks were not related directly and neither are directly attributable our open borders.

 

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[ANEW]

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Reading that took points off my IQ score.

 

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[fatpiggy]

Reading that took points off my IQ score.

End wokeness is a good account that posts in good faith. They don’t troll etc. Not sure what you had a problem with in that post. Just stated simple facts.

You can be snarky and wrong like @iceheart08 yesterday

 

[iceheart08]

End wokeness is a good account that posts in good faith. They don’t troll etc. Not sure what you had a problem with in that post. Just stated simple facts.

You can be snarky and wrong like @iceheart08 yesterday

I wasn't wrong though? it's entirely unclear what happened and why at the hotel yesterday at least.

 

[ANEW]

End wokeness is a good account that posts in good faith. They don’t troll etc. Not sure what you had a problem with in that post. Just stated simple facts.

You can be snarky and wrong like @iceheart08 yesterday

Ok I guess "technically" nothing material is incorrect but the insinuation is that there is some whole entire rest of the story and some connection etc. Oooh. They used Turo? Wow. They were in the Army at Ft Bragg ? Wow! They both picked a well known day that either would grab everyone's attention and/or would present lots of targets (New Orleans guy). WOW!! Maybe this is all some giant government conspiracy. WOW WOW!!!! That's the part that made me dumber than I already was.

 

[fatpiggy]

Ok I guess "technically" nothing material is incorrect but the insinuation is that there is some whole entire rest of the story and some connection etc. Oooh. They used Turo? Wow. They were in the Army at Ft Bragg ? Wow! They both picked a well known day that either would grab everyone's attention and/or would present lots of targets (New Orleans guy). WOW!! Maybe this is all some giant government conspiracy. WOW WOW!!!! That's the part that made me dumber than I already was.

What part of that post leads you to think government conspiracy. I don’t see anything like that in the post.