**New** Taking the high road
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Cris...That faction is the Liberal media and that agenda. Just say it out loud. That's the closest you've ever come. I'm proud of you.
It is unfortunate indeed...
It's only free speech if you are on the "right" side of said agenda.
Sad days in America
It's only free speech if you are on the "right" side of said agenda.
Sad days in America
The misrepresentation of information stopped blowing my mind years ago when I watched my granddad's quality of life go straight to shit when a local journalist knowingly misquoted him costing him his job, my grandmother's job, and his overall physical/mental well being(two heart attacks within 6 months of each other.) The victims of this all experience different levels of pain and anguish. So in this situation I'm really glad that this didn't get any worse for Dabo.
Think about this nugget guys: Cris, Paul, and Larry are journalists of a genre that in it's definition is subjective, yet they manage to maintain a higher level of objectivity, professionalism, and due diligence of thorough research than most every major news agency in America. That is an absolute shame and it's really f*cking pathetic(not a slight to you three at all...)
On a lighter side let's take a peek at a news agency NOT doing due diligence:
Think about this nugget guys: Cris, Paul, and Larry are journalists of a genre that in it's definition is subjective, yet they manage to maintain a higher level of objectivity, professionalism, and due diligence of thorough research than most every major news agency in America. That is an absolute shame and it's really f*cking pathetic(not a slight to you three at all...)
On a lighter side let's take a peek at a news agency NOT doing due diligence:
Great piece guys. I have been pro gay marriage since day one and I'm not super religious like Dabo and many others here but these lynch mobs that convene when someone has a different opinion disgust me. I feel like that even when Dabo gets in trouble for doing a player baptism or something but this is so much more innocuous. Total insanity, this country is going to crumble if this is how we're going to act. I don't know what happened to religious tolerance and robust debate in this country. Instead we just burn people at the stake
I think Dabo should have made his appearance and took the award and not even mention this group or what they wanted.
He should have stuck to his guns and threw it in their face by taking the award. At some point people have to stand up for what they believe regardless of who it pisses off.
He should have stuck to his guns and threw it in their face by taking the award. At some point people have to stand up for what they believe regardless of who it pisses off.
Bravo, Cris.
Twisting the facts is a common, and purposeful, tactic of the left.
There is just a HUGE difference between "hating gays", and believing that marriage, which has been between a man an woman in every civilization since the beginning of time, should remain that way; and there are good reasons for it.
Twisting the facts is a common, and purposeful, tactic of the left.
There is just a HUGE difference between "hating gays", and believing that marriage, which has been between a man an woman in every civilization since the beginning of time, should remain that way; and there are good reasons for it.
I appreciate Larry and Paul's comments but I really thank you for yours, Cris. Why our society has gotten so rapped up in tearing people down I can not understand. I can be pro traditional marriage and pro family without being anti gay but not in the eyes of these idiots out there. When did pro family become an extreme view? Our society has become so intolerant of traditional values. It is unbelievable.
I did not read a single article surrounding Swinney and the speaking engagement. The headlines were hyperbole enough for me. His letter of explanation was sincere and well done. I never once thought Swinney had any interest in using his celebrity to influence politics and I'm so glad he didnt.
This ain't the old days anymore kids.
This ain't the old days anymore kids.
Very surprised (in a positive way) by the responses from you guys, especially Cris. However, it must be pointed out that the "process" described by Cris in generating a non story into a "national" story was perfected in its implementation and impact by none other than the beloved Rupert Murdoch.We now have an entire national network that demonstrates this each and every day.
I agree completely. The right and especially Fox news loves to distort with lead ins such as "Christianity under Attack" very similar to the way MSNBC distorts with some of the Political Correctness "Hate" stuff. Personally I think Rush started the hysteria journalistic movement but, regardless, it is safe to say that both sides use it to their advantage. The polarization of Congress and both sides only dumbs down journalism and society in general.
Cris, I think the way you, Larry and Paul represented your opinions in this piece exemplify why I love Tiger Illustrated so much. Just outstanding writing imo. The nation is divided almost down the middle when it comes to party affiliation and national election results. Conservatives like me are losing ground each cycle. As for standing by one's Christian beliefs, that area is now being attacked everywhere, but primarily by the national media. They don't have the majority support yet, but unless there's a real climate change in our country, the Dabo Swinneys of the world will cease to exist in another generation. Sad.
Steven15, let me know when sex between 2 men or 2 women results in childbirth. That's enough reason for me. Let alone the challenges children face when reared in homes minus a mother or father.
Ted turner and Hanoi Jane invented one sided liberal only news media, CNN, so an R countered. ignorant.
Exactly. . Marriage legitimizes a child in the eye of civil society. Hence an illegitimate birth when it does not happen.
What about people that cannot have children because of medical reasons, or those that have their tubes tied, or a vasectomy? Should they not be allowed to marry? Or what about heterosexuals that choose not to have children because of personal reasons?
Dabo should be able to say and do what he feels in his position. That's what's wrong with this country is we need more like him to take a stand. There's not a parent in this country that wouldn't want their child to play for him. I really believe he walks the walk!
I would like someone to give me a "good reason" to be against gay marriage though since it was claimed that there was one. So far it's bc they cant make a baby but I was adopted by my heterosexual parents bc they cant have a baby so how is that different? The other reason given was the problems the child would face but are those problems not caused by intolerance? So many babies live in foster care, horrible home situations, why would you not be for giving them a good home with two dads or whatever... Not to mention that these things can happen anyway. I dont think a lot of people realize that marriage stopped being strictly a religious institution when the government started providing benefits for married couples.
And if you believe it is not a choice(which has been proven) then I really dont understand. Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness! Even if you find happiness in some other dude's junk, which I dont understand but so what. It seems to me that being conservative and pro-family, THE CONSERVATIVE POSITION should be for creating family structures that would otherwise not exist. Yalll are right, gays cannot have kids which means that any kids they get will be blessed with a family they may not have otherwise had. And for the record, I always vote republican.
Great post, thanks for covering the adoption aspect before I got into it
Well I thought you guys missed the story here. The real story is that Swinney did an incredibly smart thing in backing out of the ceremony and accepting the award. Its almost as if he set this thing up himself. Now he can tell the parents of potential recruits that he's a man of faith and also one who is offended by discrimination in whatever form it might take. Now that's what you call turning a negative into a positive. Advantage: Swinney. This is why is he a great coach.
Exactly, some of us shake our heads at Fox, MSMNB, Rush and AM "political talk" radio, HuffPuff, and all the other crap outlets that skew, distort, and/or lie.
Thanks for speaking truth Cris. The libs have no tolerance and are closed minded......this is just another clear example.
It blows my mind that people who are not gay have such strong opinions about gay marriage when in reality it doesn't affect them at all. IMO that is one of the absolute biggest reasons that politics in America is broken, and the republican party in particular. The far right puts WAY too much emphasis on social issues, when in reality those issues are vastly unimportant compared to issues of national security, the national and world economy, unemployment, etc. I completely identify with republican views on those issues, but the far right makes Republicans look like backward hicks because they are so worried about gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, and other social issues that, while important, pale in comparison to issues that affect the everyday lives of most Americans. Because of this, the republican party is going to have a hard time getting a like minded president in the White House because the party as a whole won't support a candidate that's not staunchly anti gay marriage and pro Life, and a republican candidate who won't be open minded about those issues has zero chance of getting elected President.
The Tea Party and other far right groups are absolutely killing the Republican party, and conservative guys like me who are more moderate on social issues get lost in the cross fire and have to endure jackasses like Barack Obama for 8 years simply because the far right doesn't want two men or two women to get married. The stupidity of it is mind bottling.
We as heterosexuals should not care what gay people do. Live and let live. If they want to get married they should be allowed to. Being gay is absolutely not a choice (at least not in most cases) and those that are born gay should have every opportunity to lead happy lives, the same way the rest of us do.
The Tea Party and other far right groups are absolutely killing the Republican party, and conservative guys like me who are more moderate on social issues get lost in the cross fire and have to endure jackasses like Barack Obama for 8 years simply because the far right doesn't want two men or two women to get married. The stupidity of it is mind bottling.
We as heterosexuals should not care what gay people do. Live and let live. If they want to get married they should be allowed to. Being gay is absolutely not a choice (at least not in most cases) and those that are born gay should have every opportunity to lead happy lives, the same way the rest of us do.
To all those who see this as some "smear" on Dabo, ..................................................................."We have Dabo and you don't"!
YES! This exactly. If republicans didn't oppose gay marriage we would never have another fiscally idiotic president
He should have sent a board member from the All In Foundation to pluck the award and use those few moments to tout its recent accomplishments. That way, a withdrawal could not be construed as a capitulation.
Dabo, the more successful he becomes, will continue to be attacked. It's part of being at the top. His faith and wholesome convictions will continue to be ripe targets for these attacks.
I am confident that he will continue to travel on the high road and his faith resonate with prep athletes and their families/entourages.
Dabo, the more successful he becomes, will continue to be attacked. It's part of being at the top. His faith and wholesome convictions will continue to be ripe targets for these attacks.
I am confident that he will continue to travel on the high road and his faith resonate with prep athletes and their families/entourages.
