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New York Attorney General Announces Trump Organization Now Under “Criminal” Investigation

WapPride said:
no one cares if you investigate cuomo. go ahead and do it - his handling of NY was awful and he's a complete scumbag.

while you're at it find something on his shitheel brother from CNN - no dem cares.
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and no one cares if you investigate Trump, barring it's done within the boundaries of the law and not a total witch hunt to ensure he won't run in 2024. He's been investigated the last 5 years running.......it starts to feel like underlying motivation versus really trying to uphold the law is the point most are trying to make (or at least I am anyway)

Also, that's our tax dollars being used to run the investigation so if they have something then absolutely prosecute him but if it turns out to be a witch hunt, I want you liberals to pay me back for the fraud, waste and abuse of my absorbent tax donation to these bogus initiatives.
 
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jakefest said:
Yeah, I've never said anything like that but you don't strike me as bright enough to keep up and I can't draw in crayons on here to make it understandable for you.
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Really, you are the king of whataboutism on this site, and I am not the only one who has called you out on it.
 
jakefest said:
if whataboutism equals hypocrisy then yes
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Yes you are the king of hypocrisy also, good point and thanks for reminding me.

Speaking of whataboutism, if we are going to investigate cuomo for his handling of the virus shouldn’t we be investigating trump as well? Trump is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths according to one of his own coronavirus task force members.
 
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jakefest said:
and no one cares if you investigate Trump, barring it's done within the boundaries of the law and not a total witch hunt to ensure he won't run in 2024. He's been investigated the last 5 years running.......it starts to feel like underlying motivation versus really trying to uphold the law is the point most are trying to make (or at least I am anyway)

Also, that's our tax dollars being used to run the investigation so if they have something then absolutely prosecute him but if it turns out to be a witch hunt, I want you liberals to pay me back for the fraud, waste and abuse of my absorbent tax donation to these bogus initiatives.
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lol please, how much money was spent investigating hilary for BENGHAZI? didn't the prosecution of the 8 or so members of trump's circle (bannon, cohen, etc) yield more money for the us gov't in seizures than was spent prosecuting them?

the NYSA is investigating trump, it wouldn't have been moved to a criminal case from a civil one if they didn't have dirt on someone. will it be trump? probably not, but i'm sure some people in his organization are gonna get got.
 
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jakefest said:
That's actually not a fair assessment of me. I treat criminals the same, regardless of party, race, religion etc. If Trump is guilty of a crime, then he should stand trial for said crime. Cuomo is the same, Biden is the same, Pelosi for insider trading the same.......no one should fall outside the reach of the law.
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I get it but it's amusing that no matter the discussion, you always riff on Bothsides-ism. It's almost like you might feel guilty about the side you support. :)

There's nobody shittier than Trump though so your comparisons fall flat.
 
jakefest said:
and no one cares if you investigate Trump, barring it's done within the boundaries of the law and not a total witch hunt to ensure he won't run in 2024. He's been investigated the last 5 years running.......it starts to feel like underlying motivation versus really trying to uphold the law is the point most are trying to make (or at least I am anyway)

Also, that's our tax dollars being used to run the investigation so if they have something then absolutely prosecute him but if it turns out to be a witch hunt, I want you liberals to pay me back for the fraud, waste and abuse of my absorbent tax donation to these bogus initiatives.
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We're still waiting to be paid back for the 33 hearings and 7 investigations over two years for Benghazi.
 
nytigerfan said:
Yes you are the king of hypocrisy also, good point and thanks for reminding me.

Speaking of whataboutism, if we are going to investigate cuomo for his handling of the virus shouldn’t we be investigating trump as well? Trump is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths according to one of his own coronavirus task force members.
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Is Biden also? How many have died since he got sworn in? Seems like a large number. What about Fauci?
 
dpic73 said:
I get it but it's amusing that no matter the discussion, you always riff on Bothsides-ism. It's almost like you might feel guilty about the side you support. :)

There's nobody shittier than Trump though so your comparisons fall flat.
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Nah, I feel guilty for things I've personally done......combat for example but I don't have remorse or guilt for any political affiliation.

For example, I voted for Obama the first term and despite me thinking he was a horrible president at the end of the first 4 years.....I don't feel any guilt as I thought he was best for the country at the time.
 
jakefest said:
Is Biden also? How many have died since he got sworn in? Seems like a large number. What about Fauci?
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Biden came in when COVID deaths were at their peak and they've been on a sharp decline ever since. Did you think he could just wave a wand? You should be thanking Biden for his competence. While COVID deaths and cases were exploding, Trump spent his last two months golfing and shit-posting on twitter without mentioning COVID ONE TIME!
 
jakefest said:
Nah, I feel guilty for things I've personally done......combat for example but I don't have remorse or guilt for any political affiliation.

For example, I voted for Obama the first term and despite me thinking he was a horrible president at the end of the first 4 years.....I don't feel any guilt as I thought he was best for the country at the time.
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I think you're a decent guy and I don't agree with most of your posts but I support your right to say them since you're smart and you've served our country. But I don't understand how in the hell someone like you could support today's Republican party, I really don't. They've turned into a band of carnival freaks with Gaetz and Large Marge being the voice of your party now. Anybody with integrity and a moral compass gets kicked to the curb and you're just left with a toilet ring of Trump sycophants who care about nothing but coddling his fragile ego. It's disgusting...
 
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dpic73 said:
I think you're a decent guy and I don't agree with most of your posts but I support your right to say them since you're smart and you've served our country. But I don't understand how in the hell someone like you could support today's Republican party, I really don't. They've turned into a band of carnival freaks with Gaetz and Large Marge being the voice of your party now. Anybody with integrity and a moral compass gets kicked to the curb and you're just left with a toilet ring of Trump sycophants who care about nothing but coddling his fragile ego. It's disgusting...
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But isn't that the whole point of politics? To respect people enough to form their own opinions and recognize that just because you don't share the same ones, doesn't mean either of us are bad people? It just means we have a different view.

And whilst I take your point on a few GOP folks, wouldn't you agree the left has their own contingent of wet blankets? Ilhan Omar, Rashida, Maxine, AOC, Nancy Pelosi ...........we could sit here all day and flag the politicians we don't think are capable and I'd guess we'd end up with about 10 in total left. From the middle, the left is starting to look just as radical as the right.
 
dpic73 said:
Biden came in when COVID deaths were at their peak and they've been on a sharp decline ever since. Did you think he could just wave a wand? You should be thanking Biden for his competence. While COVID deaths and cases were exploding, Trump spent his last two months golfing and shit-posting on twitter without mentioning COVID ONE TIME!
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How can I possibly thank him when he hasn't done anything different than Trump did? What has he done that was different? Mask mandate on federal property? That already existed. Vaccines? They already existed. The only thing Joe might be able to take some credit for is expansion of the EXISTING rollout plan but I see conflicting stories on that front also, not to mention this was always up to the states to implement. NO different than when Trump was in office. Did I miss something?


Look, neither president are responsible for any deaths, it was a sarcastic statement to get a prescribed response. Your response is exactly as I thought it would be and it just proves that there will always be an opposing view to any statement made regarding Trump and that's fine. Just don't let blind hate disintegrate your ability to apply rational thinking on some of these things.
 
jakefest said:
How can I possibly thank him when he hasn't done anything different than Trump did? What has he done that was different? Mask mandate on federal property? That already existed. Vaccines? They already existed. The only thing Joe might be able to take some credit for is expansion of the EXISTING rollout plan but I see conflicting stories on that front also, not to mention this was always up to the states to implement. NO different than when Trump was in office. Did I miss something?


Look, neither president are responsible for any deaths, it was a sarcastic statement to get a prescribed response. Your response is exactly as I thought it would be and it just proves that there will always be an opposing view to any statement made regarding Trump and that's fine. Just don't let blind hate disintegrate your ability to apply rational thinking on some of these things.
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Trump set a goal of 20MM shots in arms by the end of 2020. He reached less than 10% of that goal. And of course, when he failed it wasnt his fault. He said it was the states' fault.

Biden set a goal of 100MM shots in arms in 100 days. He doubled that goal. Clearly, he did some things differently. He greatly expanded access to the vaccine, where as Trump only focused on distribution. He actually encouraged people to get vaccinated, including getting his own on TV. Trump got vaccinated in secret in the White House before he left.

Trump always wanted to play both sides. He constantly sent mixed messages about the virus and the vaccine. He never took any responsibility for anything. He was truly a terrible leader. That is why he failed.
 
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jakefest said:
Fair enough but I would disagree. He not only chose to send sick folks back to nursing homes but then covered up his decisions, held data back, threatened his staff....etc. He's basically a less orange version of Trump
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Okay so you do agree that Trump is a criminal?
 
jakefest said:
Nah, I feel guilty for things I've personally done......combat for example but I don't have remorse or guilt for any political affiliation.

For example, I voted for Obama the first term and despite me thinking he was a horrible president at the end of the first 4 years.....I don't feel any guilt as I thought he was best for the country at the time.
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Quick unrelated note for everyone. I voted for Ron Paul as a write in on both elections that Obama won. Still love Ron Paul and him and Trump are actually a lot alike in their policies.
 
jakefest said:
But isn't that the whole point of politics? To respect people enough to form their own opinions and recognize that just because you don't share the same ones, doesn't mean either of us are bad people? It just means we have a different view.

And whilst I take your point on a few GOP folks, wouldn't you agree the left has their own contingent of wet blankets? Ilhan Omar, Rashida, Maxine, AOC, Nancy Pelosi ...........we could sit here all day and flag the politicians we don't think are capable and I'd guess we'd end up with about 10 in total left. From the middle, the left is starting to look just as radical as the right.
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I'm not asking how you could be a Republican, I'm asking how you can reconcile being a part of TODAY's Republican party? They stand for nothing except owning the libs, blocking all legislation and providing cover for a madman that they fear. They can't do what's right or think for themselves unless it aligns with what Trump wants or they are voted out, censured and scorned. Honest question - why aren't you supportive of the one's with a conscience - the decent wing of the party like Kinzinger, Chaney, Flake, Sasse etc...? It won't be long before all the good guys with a moral compass are gone and you'll just be left with orange sludge. If some of you guys don't start peeling off and showing a spine, your party is sunk.

And of course you're trying to say the Democrats are the same but that's categorically not true. There are a handful of far left folks but Biden doesn't indulge them. But they can also speak their mind and criticize him without fearing for their seats. They are not beholden to him so your bothsides-ism doesn't work here.

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jakefest said:
How can I possibly thank him when he hasn't done anything different than Trump did? What has he done that was different? Mask mandate on federal property? That already existed. Vaccines? They already existed. The only thing Joe might be able to take some credit for is expansion of the EXISTING rollout plan but I see conflicting stories on that front also, not to mention this was always up to the states to implement. NO different than when Trump was in office. Did I miss something?


Look, neither president are responsible for any deaths, it was a sarcastic statement to get a prescribed response. Your response is exactly as I thought it would be and it just proves that there will always be an opposing view to any statement made regarding Trump and that's fine. Just don't let blind hate disintegrate your ability to apply rational thinking on some of these things.
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How do you say you only read Breitbart without saying you only read Breitbart? LMAO

You've seriously got to be kidding me. Are you asking me what the difference is between a president that ignored the pandemic while shit-posting on twitter and offering the states no guidance and a real President who took the bull by the horns from day one and supercharged the effort by flooding the medical facilities/states with the funds they needed, opening mega-vax sites, openly encouraging the population to get vaccinated, vastly increasing testing and providing national guidance???

This is the very definition of willful ignorance...
 
dpic73 said:
How do you say you only read Breitbart without saying you only read Breitbart? LMAO

You've seriously got to be kidding me. Are you asking me what the difference is between a president that ignored the pandemic while shit-posting on twitter and offering the states no guidance and a real President who took the bull by the horns from day one and supercharged the effort by flooding the medical facilities/states with the funds they needed, opening mega-vax sites, openly encouraging the population to get vaccinated, vastly increasing testing and providing national guidance???

This is the very definition of willful ignorance...
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You mean the same states that are presently refusing to follow CDC and federal guidelines? Those same states?

The states refused to take national guidance, in case you don’t recall.
 
jakefest said:
You mean the same states that are presently refusing to follow CDC and federal guidelines? Those same states?

The states refused to take national guidance, in case you don’t recall.
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So you are saying his approach didn't help? The results don't lie Jake. Holy sh*t you just can't be.....oh nvm, I think I've given up on you.
 
jakefest said:
I think you’re more of a criminal than Trump is
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That's okay, I can only imagine how incredibly stupid you felt when it dawned on you the corner I painted you in, as evidenced by your hilariously nonsensical response. A feeling you've no doubt known your entire life.
 
okclem said:
That's okay, I can only imagine how incredibly stupid you felt when it dawned on you the corner I painted you in, as evidenced by your hilariously nonsensical response. A feeling you've no doubt known your entire life.
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You nailed it
 
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Donald J. Trump​

8:30pm May 25, 2021
This is a continuation of the greatest Witch Hunt in American history. It began the day I came down the escalator in Trump Tower, and it’s never stopped. They wasted two years and $48 million in taxpayer dollars on Mueller and Russia Russia Russia, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, and it continues to this day, with illegally leaked confidential information.

No other President in history has had to put up with what I have had to, and on top of all that, I have done a great job for our Country, whether it’s taxes, regulations, our Military, Veterans, Space Force, our Borders, speedy creation of a great vaccine (said to be a miracle!), and protecting the Second Amendment.

This is purely political, and an affront to the almost 75 million voters who supported me in the Presidential Election, and it’s being driven by highly partisan Democrat prosecutors.

New York City and State are suffering the highest crime rates in their history, and instead of going after murderers, drug dealers, human traffickers, and others, they come after Donald Trump.

Interesting that today a poll came out indicating I’m far in the lead for the Republican Presidential Primary and the General Election in 2024.

Our Country is broken, our elections are rigged, corrupt, and stolen, our prosecutors are politicized, and I will just have to keep on fighting like I have been for the last five years!
 
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TigerGrowls said:

Donald J. Trump​

8:30pm May 25, 2021
This is a continuation of the greatest Witch Hunt in American history. It began the day I came down the escalator in Trump Tower, and it’s never stopped. They wasted two years and $48 million in taxpayer dollars on Mueller and Russia Russia Russia, Impeachment Hoax #1, Impeachment Hoax #2, and it continues to this day, with illegally leaked confidential information.

No other President in history has had to put up with what I have had to, and on top of all that, I have done a great job for our Country, whether it’s taxes, regulations, our Military, Veterans, Space Force, our Borders, speedy creation of a great vaccine (said to be a miracle!), and protecting the Second Amendment.

This is purely political, and an affront to the almost 75 million voters who supported me in the Presidential Election, and it’s being driven by highly partisan Democrat prosecutors.

New York City and State are suffering the highest crime rates in their history, and instead of going after murderers, drug dealers, human traffickers, and others, they come after Donald Trump.

Interesting that today a poll came out indicating I’m far in the lead for the Republican Presidential Primary and the General Election in 2024.

Our Country is broken, our elections are rigged, corrupt, and stolen, our prosecutors are politicized, and I will just have to keep on fighting like I have been for the last five years!
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TigerGrowls said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Trump CFO Surrenders to Manhattan DA This Morning On Garbage Charges As Obama/Biden Try to Destroy the Trump Organization | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

You no longer can do your job in America if you work for an entity not ordained by the Obama/Biden gang of crooks. Trump’s longtime CFO turned himself in this morning after being indicted by the corrupt Manhattan DA who’s working for the Obama/Biden gang.
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How do you even begin to read this garbage? This is the most amateur of writing and so obviously biased it's laughable. The first lines are just terrible.
 

Statement by Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America, on Radical Left New York Political Prosecutors​

06/28/21

Radical Left New York City and State Prosecutors, who have let murderers, rapists, drug dealers, and all other forms of crime skyrocket to record levels, and who have just announced that they will be releasing hundreds of people involved in violent crime back onto the streets without retribution of any kind, are rude, nasty, and totally biased in the way they are treating lawyers, representatives, and some of the wonderful long-term employees and people within the Trump Organization. After hundreds of subpoenas, over 3 million pages of documents, 4 years of searching, dozens and dozens of interviews, and millions of dollars of taxpayer funds wasted, they continue to be “in search of a crime” and will do anything to frighten people into making up the stories or lies that they want, but have been totally unable to get. In an unprecedented move, they retained an outside “Never Trumper” lawyer from a Trump-hating law firm to work on the case. It is a continuation of the greatest Witch Hunt of all time.

Now they are issuing ultimatums, working in close conjunction with the Washington, D.C. hacks who have been investigating me from the day I came down the escalator in Trump Tower, but who have failed. In fact, the guilty parties were these prosecutors’ partners in crime, the Radical Left Democrats and friends. They will do anything to stop the MAGA movement (and me), even if it involves prosecutorial misconduct and harassment of a political opponent, which they are using at levels rarely seen before. They leak, they lie, and they campaign based on information that has already been gone through in other of the many investigations I have put up with.

Now they just leaked that we were given one day, today, to make our case about things that are standard practice throughout the U.S. business community, and in no way a crime. They also know that no matter how strong our case, they will work hard to embarrass us and the Republican Party.

Having politically motivated prosecutors, people who actually got elected because they will “get Donald Trump,” is a very dangerous thing for our Country. In the end, people will not stand for it. Remember, if they can do this to me, they can do it to anyone! Why would anyone bring their company to New York, or even stay in New York, knowing these Radical Left Democrats would willingly target their company if viewed as a political opponent? It is devastating for New York!

These Witch Hunters are relentlessly seeking to destroy a reputation of a President who has done a great job for this Country, including tax and regulation cuts, Border control, rebuilding the Military, and developing the vaccine in record time—thereby saving our Country, and far beyond. Washington, D.C. and ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Court, should finally stop these vicious, angry, and highly partisan prosecutors. They are a disgrace to our Nation!
 
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