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NFL to discuss National Anthem controversy next week, Roger Goodell says

It is silly that we let large corporations like the NFL or even the Clinton foundation pretend to be non-profit organizations to avoid paying taxes. If the average person knew how these things were set up they would be furious.
 
Not sure what the ratings say but I know that several of my friends and nearly all of my family members have quit watching. They will make a very PC statement and decision on it all but I guarantee you they are freaking out right now about loss of viewership and how to address it without pissing off the players too much.
 
It is silly that we let large corporations like the NFL or even the Clinton foundation pretend to be non-profit organizations to avoid paying taxes. If the average person knew how these things were set up they would be furious.
Agree completely. Someone or multiple people are getting filthy rich at the heart of every single one of them.
 
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It is silly that we let large corporations like the NFL or even the Clinton foundation pretend to be non-profit organizations to avoid paying taxes. If the average person knew how these things were set up they would be furious.
NFL teams are not considered non profit for tax purposes. The orange buffoon is referring to local bond deals usually for stadium construction.
 
Actually don't think it's about Trump anymore . When the ESPN lady called for boycotting the advertisers that struck an arrow into the NFL and ESPN . That plus attendance and ratings being down combine for action . Will be interesting to see if any players forego money to kneel anyway . They sure have the right to if they can handle the results . The more this goes on the more the average fan will decide they got better things to do . In the end commerce / money will be the judge IMHO .
 
NFL is a private corporation so it can do as it pleases, but what exactly is patriotic about making standing for the national anthem compulsory? That seems, I dunno, completely at odds with every principle this country was founded on.
 
NFL teams are not considered non profit for tax purposes. The orange buffoon is referring to local bond deals usually for stadium construction.

I'm wrong the NFL gave up it's non-profit status in 2015. They paid no federal taxes previous to that. They also no longer have to publicly share the salaries of their executive officers. And were expected to pay in over 10 million in taxes. So they got away with not paying in 100's of millions in taxes over the last few decades
 
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It is silly that we let large corporations like the NFL or even the Clinton foundation, or mega-churches pretend to be non-profit organizations to avoid paying taxes. If the average person knew how these things were set up they would be furious.

FIFY and .......

just some clarification, NFL is no longer tax exempt

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/nflexempt.asp

NFL sucks,and people have been walking away from it for years. Maybe not in the drives they are now. Additionally, F'n Trump had nothing to do with it. All he did was throw a log on a already out of control fire ..... that wont stop the douche from taking credit though.
 
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I have never been polled in these so called "approval ratings". And that goes for any president past or current.

Ever.

Unrelated to this issue but that's not surprising. There are roughly 300 Million Americans and they survey about 1000. The odds of any one person getting surveyed even once is minuscule. I can give you the statistics about why that's plenty (assuming a random sample) to give you a reasonable number. There is always a margin of error but quick calculation shows the MOE on a survey of 1000 people even over the entire American population is only about 4% with a confidence level of 95%. That means if his approval rating is 35%. You can be 95% sure that if you did survey every American the number would be between 31% and 39%. You can get the margin of error down to nothing if you go with a lower confidence level or get the confidence level higher if you go with a larger margin of error. Heck, that same survey has a MOE of 9% with a confidence level of 99%. You can be 99% sure his approval rating is between 26% and 44%.
 
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Unrelated to this issue but that's not surprising. There are roughly 300 Million Americans and they survey about 1000. The odds of any one person getting surveyed even once is minuscule. I can give you the statistics about why that's plenty (assuming a random sample) to give you a reasonable number. There is always a margin of error but quick calculation shows the MOE on a survey of 1000 people even over the entire American population is only about 4% with a confidence level of 95%. That means if his approval rating is 35%. You can be 95% sure that if you did survey every American the number would be between 31% and 39%. You can get the margin of error down to nothing if you go with a lower confidence level or get the confidence level higher if you go with a larger margin of error. Heck, that same survey has a MOE of 9% with a confidence level of 99%. You can be 99% sure his approval rating is between 26% and 44%.
thats not the issue though, the issue is the democrats will keep going further left and loonier and then nominate some uninspiring candidate in all likelihood
 
I'm wrong the NFL gave up it's non-profit status in 2015. They paid no federal taxes previous to that. They also no longer have to publicly share the salaries of their executive officers. And were expected to pay in over 10 million in taxes. So they got away with not paying in 100's of millions in taxes over the last few decades
Not exactly. For the most part, the NFL just passes revenue to the 32 clubs and to its executives and employees and whatever its operating costs and expenses are. Ain't much left after that- perhaps they pay taxes on a little. On the other hand, the teams do pay tax on the revenue passed from the NFL just like any private corporation. Of course, employees and players are paying personal income taxes on their salaries.
 
thats not the issue though, the issue is the democrats will keep going further left and loonier and then nominate some uninspiring candidate in all likelihood

Yeah, I don't care about any of that and it wasn't really relevant. The question was about whether the survey was valid because he had never been surveyed. I was just explaining how surveys work.
 
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Not sure what the ratings say but I know that several of my friends and nearly all of my family members have quit watching. They will make a very PC statement and decision on it all but I guarantee you they are freaking out right now about loss of viewership and how to address it without pissing off the players too much.
I don't know a single person that has stopped watching because of the anthem stuff.

I do, however know many people that have stopped watching over the last several seasons due to the degradation of the product on the field.
 
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I wish grown men would have better things to do than watch NFL for a whole day. my grandfather was correct, they made it for the masses, to keep the employees dumb, drunk and maybe their wife would blow them. just come back monday and if you get arrested, we have lawyers and cash for bail.

just keep working idiots.
What about college ball?
 
NFL is a private corporation so it can do as it pleases, but what exactly is patriotic about making standing for the national anthem compulsory? That seems, I dunno, completely at odds with every principle this country was founded on.

The owners and the league are not going to make players stand bc they think it is patriotic. If that were the case they would have done so from the start. It's all about the $$$$. They have finally figured out their beer drinking, Cadillac/Chevy driving, wing eating fan base and their advertisers want the players to stand are they going to lose more $$$ if they don't.

There are no legitimate noble causes involved in any of this. The league and the owners are just slow in figuring out the best course of action to stem their loses with the least grief from the press.
 
Wonder what would happen if a whole team decided to kneel. That would really put the NFL (or Cowboys) in a bind.
 
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There is not one good damn reason that anyone should kneel during the National Anthem. There have been millions of people that have been disenfranchised for various reasons throughout the history of mankind. There will be millions more before the end of time. Thank God for the hundreds of thousands that have died to reduce that number. If we dishonor the flag and the sacrifices it represents we are doomed. All I have to say is move to another country and see how you like it. Good bye NFL
 
You can skew statistics a lot of ways to influence results. Oversampling Bay Area residents versus Oklahoma City can move the numbers.

I'm not saying Trumps numbers are high. But I doubt they are as low as suggested by some of the approval ratings would imply. Certainly the election showed some wishful thinking when it came to what his real numbers were.

I thought Trump was embarrassing himself with the NFL tweets. You have to admit he is stubborn though, and I think everyone is getting fed up with it, particularly the NFL owners. I'm surprised how the tide has moved towards his favor on this issue.
 
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Unrelated to this issue but that's not surprising. There are roughly 300 Million Americans and they survey about 1000. The odds of any one person getting surveyed even once is minuscule. I can give you the statistics about why that's plenty (assuming a random sample) to give you a reasonable number. There is always a margin of error but quick calculation shows the MOE on a survey of 1000 people even over the entire American population is only about 4% with a confidence level of 95%. That means if his approval rating is 35%. You can be 95% sure that if you did survey every American the number would be between 31% and 39%. You can get the margin of error down to nothing if you go with a lower confidence level or get the confidence level higher if you go with a larger margin of error. Heck, that same survey has a MOE of 9% with a confidence level of 99%. You can be 99% sure his approval rating is between 26% and 44%.
I kinda believe you, but the obvious follow up question is to be why were all of the polls wrong about the general election then?
 
I kinda believe you, but the obvious follow up question is to be why were all of the polls wrong about the general election then?

Here's the way I think about it. Say the polls gave Trump a 15% chance to win. That's essentially the equivalent of a 14 point dog in the NCAA winning or a 10.5 point dog in the NFL winning. It's unlikely but it certainly isn't unheard of.
 
I kinda believe you, but the obvious follow up question is to be why were all of the polls wrong about the general election then?

Thats kind of a myth. Most of the polls were within the margin of error. The ones that were way off were national polls and based on our electoral system those are less valuable because a single vote in a swing state like Florida or Ohio is way more valuable than a single vote in a state like California or Texas where you already know the outcome. POTUS election polling is much more valuable to look at the individual state polls for swing states.

Even in those it's highly unlikely any one person would be to get polled.
 
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