OT, honest question though

[Tiger2526]

Why is the media so against conservative republicans? There's one station that is way too biased in favor with the republican party, but overall the media, celebs, athletes etc voice their opinion against the right side.

Not trying to start a train wreck thread, but just curious why that is the case?

Mods please move to the politic forum if this is over the top.

 

[Trading Tiger]

 

[kgwillison]

I think true conservatives get fair coverage. I think Mitt Romney is conservative even if he isn’t “populist.” I think Sen. Todd Young of Indiana is conservative and is treated fairly by the media. I think Sen. John Thune is a real conservative. When is the last time you read or heard bad things about him. They are work horses, not show horses.

I think “conservatives” like Sen. Britt and her Senate colleague Tommy Tuberville get what they deserve from the media. I think a conservative like Rep. Ronny Jackson, who refuses to acknowledge he was demoted by the Navy and still calls himself Admiral is a fraud and gets the kind of attention from the media he deserves.

And don’t get me started on MTG.

None of those are real conservatives. They are media hogs following a populist cult leader.

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

Uh, is this a real question?

My guess is that those “media” outlets are owned by conservatives? And don’t be fooled ol pea, the conglomeration that is DC is run by the green party. Money, it’s always about the money.

 

[Tiger2526]

Uh, is this a real question?

My guess is that those “media” outlets are owned by conservatives? And don’t be fooled ol pea, the conglomeration that is DC is run by the green party. Money, it’s always about the

Money is the root of all evil.

I hate that my kids will deal with way worse than what I did as a child. There was no dang drag queen show on MTV or kids showing up at school identifying as an animal back then.

There's a pretty funny comedy stand up guy talking about the animal kids. His kid made bad grades in kindergarten because there was a lion in the back of class roaring and disrupting everything. Can't remember his name but look it up, he's funny

 

[DeathValley_13]

Why is the media so against conservative republicans? There's one station that is way too biased in favor with the republican party, but overall the media, celebs, athletes etc voice their opinion against the right side.

Not trying to start a train wreck thread, but just curious why that is the case?

Mods please move to the politic forum if this is over the top.

I’m 42. I remember reading in my Social studies class that republicans were Whote, Anglo- Saxon, Protestants, that were wealthy.
Democrats were poor minorities. This is no longer the case. The Republican Party also has to cater to the mega donors who are typically more conservative than most conservatives.

I think 80% of this country is really close and could come to a compromise over a couple beers. The problem is we elect public servants who don’t serve the public. They get into it to become multi millionaires.

 

[Trading Tiger]

I think true conservatives get fair coverage. I think Mitt Romney is conservative even if he isn’t “populist.” I think Sen. Todd Young of Indiana is conservative and is treated fairly by the media. I think Sen. John Thune is a real conservative. When is the last time you read or heard bad things about him. They are work horses, not show horses.

I think “conservatives” like Sen. Britt and her Senate colleague Tommy Tuberville get what they deserve from the media. I think a conservative like Rep. Ronny Jackson, who refuses to acknowledge he was demoted by the Navy and still calls himself Admiral is a fraud and gets the kind of attention from the media he deserves.

And don’t get me started on MTG.

None of those are real conservatives. They are media hogs following a populist cult leader.

Interesting perspective you have there

 

[Trading Tiger]

Money is the root of all evil.

I hate that my kids will deal with way worse than what I did as a child. There was no dang drag queen show on MTV or kids showing up at school identifying as an animal back then.

There's a pretty funny comedy stand up guy talking about the animal kids. His kid made bad grades in kindergarten because there was a lion in the back of class roaring and disrupting everything. Can't remember his name but look it up, he's funny

The love of money is the root of all evil.

 

[Da Swami]

Why is the media so against conservative republicans? There's one station that is way too biased in favor with the republican party, but overall the media, celebs, athletes etc voice their opinion against the right side.

Not trying to start a train wreck thread, but just curious why that is the case?

Mods please move to the politic forum if this is over the top.

Not many conservatives left that are willing to put 'Merica first and move legislation for the betterment of the country especially in the House.

Today's GOP is nothing more than a bunch of low-IQ buffons that found a time machine from the 1700's and pop into era.

 

[iceheart08]

I’m 42. I remember reading in my Social studies class that republicans were Whote, Anglo- Saxon, Protestants, that were wealthy.
Democrats were poor minorities. This is no longer the case. The Republican Party also has to cater to the mega donors who are typically more conservative than most conservatives.

I think 80% of this country is really close and could come to a compromise over a couple beers. The problem is we elect public servants who don’t serve the public. They get into it to become multi millionaires.

It's not about becoming a millionaire, though that's a long term benefit for sure, it's about ego and power.

Agree with the rest of your post though.

 

[Quincy2009]

I’m 42. I remember reading in my Social studies class that republicans were Whote, Anglo- Saxon, Protestants, that were wealthy.
Democrats were poor minorities. This is no longer the case. The Republican Party also has to cater to the mega donors who are typically more conservative than most conservatives.

I think 80% of this country is really close and could come to a compromise over a couple beers. The problem is we elect public servants who don’t serve the public. They get into it to become multi millionaires.

I couldn't agree more. If this country could load the 10% fanatics from both the left and right sides onto a boat and ship them off to a someplace way far away, the other 80% could agree on enough we could all more forward without animosity. Unfortunately the over exaggerations continue to pull all of us in.

 

[PawsFan_]

I think a conservative like Rep. Ronny Jackson, who refuses to acknowledge he was demoted by the Navy and still calls himself Admiral is a fraud and gets the kind of attention from the media he deserves.

I assume you've read the IG report on the Admiral. Interesting timeline. Trump nominated him to be the Secretary of Veterans Affairs on April 16, 2018

10 days later, the Democratic head of the Senate Armed service committee requested the DoD IG to investigate this.

THEN a DoD Hotline gets 12 complaints on him.

While there are some embarrassing and unprofessional conduct, the IG report exonerates him of most of the complaints (as they were false). There was a lot of evidence of hearsay in the report. Is there enough there to justify a demotion? If he were on active duty perhaps. More than likely, he'd just been asked to retire. Seeing that he's retired, no.

Funny the current administration decided to take action on a retired officer who just happens to be a Representative in the opposition party.

 

[GoodWord28]

cnn and fox will say anything to get you to tune in.

 

[Tiger Guru]

I remember when I was a teenager, I found it odd that there were 10 news Channels that essentially were left leaning news. There was 1 that was right leaning. (I'm sure that's changed to a degree, but I don't watch any News on TV)

Any "A list" celebrity is most definitely a left leaning person. I was able to see at an early age that the cool thing was to be a leftist. At least, that's what my friends and everything around me were conditioned to believe. In fact, is there an A-list celebrity that is NOT COMPLETELY OPENLY LEFT?

As I've gotten older it's become really obvious that you will absolutely be canceled should you vocally go against the left.

I don't know why that is, but it's best to not go against them. They will cancel you in a second.

 

[tigfan92]

I think true conservatives get fair coverage. I think Mitt Romney is conservative even if he isn’t “populist.” I think Sen. Todd Young of Indiana is conservative and is treated fairly by the media. I think Sen. John Thune is a real conservative. When is the last time you read or heard bad things about him. They are work horses, not show horses.

I think “conservatives” like Sen. Britt and her Senate colleague Tommy Tuberville get what they deserve from the media. I think a conservative like Rep. Ronny Jackson, who refuses to acknowledge he was demoted by the Navy and still calls himself Admiral is a fraud and gets the kind of attention from the media he deserves.

And don’t get me started on MTG.

None of those are real conservatives. They are media hogs following a populist cult leader.

Serious question. What is a populist? I really get tired of folks trashing the America First movement or the MAGA movement. Who doesn't want America to be "first" or to be "great again"? I get it if folks don't like Trump. I wanted Desantis myself. But if you are trying to control and take care of the rest of the word while ignoring your own citizens, you shouldn't be anywhere near power.

 

[tigfan92]

It's not about becoming a millionaire, though that's a long term benefit for sure, it's about ego and power.

Agree with the rest of your post though.

It's more about status than anything else. Ego for sure, but that status is addictive. True for both sides. Very few "leaders" are there to actually fight for the people they claim to represent.

 

[Tiger Guru]

It's more about status than anything else. Ego for sure, but that status is addictive. True for both sides. Very few "leaders" are there to actually fight for the people they claim to represent.

It's almost like those conspiracy theories are right....

There are these groups of "Super Pacs" controlling US Government.

I'd bet 99% of Americans would all agree that money shouldn't get you elected and as long as money gets you elected, corruption will remain an issue in American Government.

I'd also venture to say that even the most extreme Left and extreme right would agree that people serving the American public and receiving tax-payer salaries, should never be worth 20+ million. If so, you should no longer "serve the public".

So, with that in mind... is corruption real in American politics or is all conspiracy theory?

Is it good people making bad decisions or is it bad people making the decision to do bad on purpose?

Honest questions.

 

[Trading Tiger]

It's almost like those conspiracy theories are right....

There are these groups of "Super Pacs" controlling US Government.

I'd bet 99% of Americans would all agree that money shouldn't get you elected and as long as money gets you elected, corruption will remain an issue in American Government.

I'd also venture to say that even the most extreme Left and extreme right would agree that people serving the American public and receiving tax-payer salaries, should never be worth 20+ million. If so, you should no longer "serve the public".

So, with that in mind... is corruption real in American politics or is all conspiracy theory?

Is it good people making bad decisions or is it bad people making the decision to do bad on purpose?

Is corruption real in American politics??

Well, Biden is not mentally fit to stand trial, but he's totally competent enough to be the president, so there's that.

 

[Tiger Guru]

Is corruption real in American politics??

Well, Biden is not mentally fit to stand trial, but he's totally competent enough to be the president, so there's that.

I just wish we took a stand to end corruption.

I don't care who you vote for or what you stand for but surely, we can all agree that corruption is very bad and should be treated as such.

Bad is bad and my goal is to just be a good person.

 

[jonalexand1]

Why is the media so against conservative republicans? There's one station that is way too biased in favor with the republican party, but overall the media, celebs, athletes etc voice their opinion against the right side.

Not trying to start a train wreck thread, but just curious why that is the case?

Mods please move to the politic forum if this is over the top.

I don't think the media really reports on conservative republicans. They report pretty much solely on the MAGA Cult and the camera/attention wh@res like MTG, Jordan, Gaetz, Boebert, Cruz, Hawley, etc. Those are reprehensible humans, not ones that actually represent the values and core beliefs/morals of the conservative base or the GOP that we all grew up with. Politics on both sides are completely broken right now. It's a shame, and not sure the end is in sight. There's a serious lack of adults in the room these days.

 

[mantan]

As far as corruption goes, the mainstream media’s obligation is to expose it to the American people. When you have a media that covers up for and scratches the backs of the government at the behest of their corporate overlords, what you wind up with is actual fascism. Too many people are uninformed about this.

Guess why!

 

[kgwillison]

As far as corruption goes, the mainstream media’s obligation is to expose it to the American people. When you have a media that covers up for and scratches the backs of the government at the behest of their corporate overlords, what you wind up with is actual fascism. Too many people are uninformed about this.

Guess why!

If you are writing about corruption and the media ... the Charleston Post and Courier deserves a tip of the cap. The paper is putting resources into smaller media outlets throughout SC to expose corruption at the local levels. There is much more corruption at those levels ... city councils, county supervisors, special bureaus, etc. than there is at the federal level where departments have Inspector Generals. Go look at some of the news stories that PC has helped report on.

 

[dpic73]

Why is the media so against conservative republicans? There's one station that is way too biased in favor with the republican party, but overall the media, celebs, athletes etc voice their opinion against the right side.

Not trying to start a train wreck thread, but just curious why that is the case?

Mods please move to the politic forum if this is over the top.

I'm not sure you could say the media is against conservative Republicans as much as you could say when you report on them honestly, you have to admit they are a train wreck right now. From an insurrectionist wannabe dictator controlling all their strings to a do-nothing Congress who begged us to put them in power so they could address Inflation, Crime and the Border, but have done nothing except fixate on Biden's son, what is there to say positively about them? Hell, even Republicans are sick of Republicans and the few rational ones are leaving in droves.

Outgoing Republican Rep. Mike Gallagher blames dysfunction on ‘lifers and careerists’

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thehill.com

Republican dysfunction drives a wave of House retirements

A lot of drama and little legislative accomplishment is causing a GOP brain drain in the House, with top Republicans and committee chairs heading for the exits.

www.nbcnews.com

Patrick McHenry, former interim speaker, will leave Congress

Rep. Patrick McHenry, R-N.C., who made history as the first interim speaker of the House after Republicans ousted their own speaker and struggled for weeks to agree on a successor, said Tuesday that he would leave Congress at the end of his term.

www.spokesman.com

Ken Buck departing ‘dysfunctional’ House early in a further slip of Johnson’s GOP majority

Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) will depart Congress at the end of next week, narrowing House Republicans‘ majority even further as a wave of Republican incumbents prepares to leave at the

gazette.com

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

I remember when I was a teenager, I found it odd that there were 10 news Channels that essentially were left leaning news. There was 1 that was right leaning. (I'm sure that's changed to a degree, but I don't watch any News on TV)

Any "A list" celebrity is most definitely a left leaning person. I was able to see at an early age that the cool thing was to be a leftist. At least, that's what my friends and everything around me were conditioned to believe. In fact, is there an A-list celebrity that is NOT COMPLETELY OPENLY LEFT?

As I've gotten older it's become really obvious that you will absolutely be canceled should you vocally go against the left.

I don't know why that is, but it's best to not go against them. They will cancel you in a second.

Roseanne Barr, Scott Baio, Brett Favre, Ted Nugent, Kid Rock. None of them are left.

And they clearly are intellectuals who have tremendous life experiences that make them a great judge of character for who should lead this country.

 

[Tiger Guru]

Roseanne Barr, Scott Baio, Brett Favre, Ted Nugent, Kid Rock. None of them are left.

And they clearly are intellectuals who have tremendous life experiences that make them a great judge of character for who should lead this country.

You and I have a different definition of A-List celebrity.

All of them, are washed up D list the second they voice their beliefs.

But I understand what you’re trying to say.

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

You and I have a different definition of A-List celebrity.

All of them, are washed up D list the second they voice their beliefs.

But I understand what you’re trying to say.

Dennis Quade, Jon Voight, Kirstie Alley, Connor McGregor, Johnny Damon, Kelsey Grammer, Kayne Worst.

All A-list.

 

[7tiget6]

I’m 42. I remember reading in my Social studies class that republicans were Whote, Anglo- Saxon, Protestants, that were wealthy.
Democrats were poor minorities. This is no longer the case. The Republican Party also has to cater to the mega donors who are typically more conservative than most conservatives.

I think 80% of this country is really close and could come to a compromise over a couple beers. The problem is we elect public servants who don’t serve the public. They get into it to become multi millionaires.

I agree with your last paragraph. I said it in another thread, the first party to move toward center without an idiot or lunatic at the lead would possibly hold power for a while. Most of Americans aren’t extreme but they vote against their better reasoning because anybody is better than the other guy.

As much as I dislike the man Trump did his best sales pitch ever when he became the voice of the “poorer/unheard average Joe” side of the Republican Party, that’s where a majority of his diehard base resides. A good bit of the rest really just vote for him because it’s their “better” option, in their opinion.

 

[iceheart08]

It's almost like those conspiracy theories are right....

There are these groups of "Super Pacs" controlling US Government.

I'd bet 99% of Americans would all agree that money shouldn't get you elected and as long as money gets you elected, corruption will remain an issue in American Government.

I'd also venture to say that even the most extreme Left and extreme right would agree that people serving the American public and receiving tax-payer salaries, should never be worth 20+ million. If so, you should no longer "serve the public".

So, with that in mind... is corruption real in American politics or is all conspiracy theory?

Is it good people making bad decisions or is it bad people making the decision to do bad on purpose?

Honest questions.

ill give you my honest answer. and, I'm guessing I'm as close to these folks as anyone on this board.

our system is broken. money DOES win elections. those same monied interests are controlling our politicians.

politicians at all levels frequently make decisions in the context of which donor or special interest is going to be happy and how that will impact them in the future. So, all sorts of people run for office, bad people win, and then make bad decisions to perpetuate their own power, access, and ego.

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

ill give you my honest answer. and, I'm guessing I'm as close to these folks as anyone on this board.

our system is broken. money DOES win elections. those same monied interests are controlling our politicians.

politicians at all levels frequently make decisions in the context of which donor or special interest is going to be happy and how that will impact them in the future. So, all sorts of people run for office, bad people win, and then make bad decisions to perpetuate their own power, access, and ego.

The biggest crime was when the Supreme Court did not decide to overturn citizens united. That was the start of the downfall of democracy.

 

[Tiger Guru]

Dennis Quade, Jon Voight, Kirstie Alley, Connor McGregor, Johnny Damon, Kelsey Grammer, Kayne Worst.

All A-list.

You would have a better point just naming Connor or Kanye

Dude, 1990's was 25 years ago haha. Ain't nothing about 90's celebrities A-list or relevant. Bro said Kelsey Grammer...

 

[Tiger Guru]

ill give you my honest answer. and, I'm guessing I'm as close to these folks as anyone on this board.

our system is broken. money DOES win elections. those same monied interests are controlling our politicians.

politicians at all levels frequently make decisions in the context of which donor or special interest is going to be happy and how that will impact them in the future. So, all sorts of people run for office, bad people win, and then make bad decisions to perpetuate their own power, access, and ego.

So, in theory, they can be rigged? Not through stealing votes, per se but through persuasion and basically "appointing" a president.

I think we have to stop that for the sake of this country. I wholeheartedly believe that an antifa member and a Maga person would both agree that we should wreck the money system and put a cap on donations so we can have true elections.

If both extremes would agree on that, then I'm sure 99% of Americans don't want special interest groups controlling our elections, because that's exactly what is happening. If they're controlling the person who gets in, then they're fixing elections, and then controlling the candidate for his/her term.

I honestly don't think you would find 1 single American who wants that. Now, if I were an enemy of America, it wouldn't bother me one bit. In fact, I would be doing my best to infiltrate the system to wreck it from within.

Speaking for myself, I am hoping there's a candidate out there that will wreck the system and pull the curtain on the show. Would anyone be against that?

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

You would have a better point just naming Connor or Kanye

Dude, 1990's was 25 years ago haha. Ain't nothing about 90's celebrities A-list or relevant. Bro said Kelsey Grammer...

Are we really arguing this? Maybe it’s because only the senile would support a lunatic like Trump.

 

[Tiger Guru]

Are we really arguing this? Maybe it’s because only the senile would support a lunatic like Trump.

Im certainly not arguing. I just found it funny.

We 100% have different opinions about the definition of relevant A-List celebrities, but that's ok. All good brother, I enjoy the discussion.

 

[kgwillison]

Dennis Quade, Jon Voight, Kirstie Alley, Connor McGregor, Johnny Damon, Kelsey Grammer, Kayne Worst.

All A-list.

And from the sports world, Curt Schilling!

 

[anon_gwg7wjjhm2lka]

And from the sports world, Curt Schilling!

All good, but like the other right wing Nazis, they will just keep moving the goal post to avoid dealing with reality.

 

[kgwillison]

So, in theory, they can be rigged? Not through stealing votes, per se but through persuasion and basically "appointing" a president.

I think we have to stop that for the sake of this country. I wholeheartedly believe that an antifa member and a Maga person would both agree that we should wreck the money system and put a cap on donations so we can have true elections.

If both extremes would agree on that, then I'm sure 99% of Americans don't want special interest groups controlling our elections, because that's exactly what is happening. If they're controlling the person who gets in, then they're fixing elections, and then controlling the candidate for his/her term.

I honestly don't think you would find 1 single American who wants that. Now, if I were an enemy of America, it wouldn't bother me one bit. In fact, I would be doing my best to infiltrate the system to wreck it from within.

Speaking for myself, I am hoping there's a candidate out there that will wreck the system and pull the curtain on the show. Would anyone be against that?

So are you for public funding of elections? If you “cap” spending, does the candidate from, say, Kansas get the same amount to spend as the one from NYC?

And if you don’t want public funding but still want caps, doesn’t that mean that the wealthiest will still be the ones funding campaigns?

I happen to believe political action committees are positive ways for people to be engaged in political races. These are voluntary employee contributions, not corporate dollars or funds hidden behind dark curtains. They are tracked and public.

 

[iceheart08]

So are you for public funding of elections? If you “cap” spending, does the candidate from, say, Kansas get the same amount to spend as the one from NYC?

And if you don’t want public funding but still want caps, doesn’t that mean that the wealthiest will still be the ones funding campaigns?

I happen to believe political action committees are positive ways for people to be engaged in political races. These are voluntary employee contributions, not corporate dollars or funds hidden behind dark curtains. They are tracked and public.

public funding isnt the answer, and yes, you are right, PACs are not the problem. Its the 501 orgs and their progeny who dont have to disclose donors.

The answer is to do away with the notion that we all (including organizations like businesses and labor unions) have some unlimited right to free speech in the context of elections. the government's interest in running free and fair elections has to outweigh our interest in unlimited free speech. Our laws have to reflect the ACTUAL corrupting influence money has on our elections. This would allow us to ban outside spending in campaigns. Then, we'd say anyone (including organizations) can donate to any candidate they want (cap it at some dollar amount) and make it all reportable and public.

the dark money is the problem.

 

[BlueRidgedf]

The media does what their masters in the democrat party tell them to do.

 

[kgwillison]

The media does what their masters in the democrat party tell them to do.

You misspelled Murdoch.

 

[Tiger Guru]

So are you for public funding of elections? If you “cap” spending, does the candidate from, say, Kansas get the same amount to spend as the one from NYC?

And if you don’t want public funding but still want caps, doesn’t that mean that the wealthiest will still be the ones funding campaigns?

I happen to believe political action committees are positive ways for people to be engaged in political races. These are voluntary employee contributions, not corporate dollars or funds hidden behind dark curtains. They are tracked and public.

I'm sure there's absolutely no corruption transpiring through hundreds of millions dollar donations or "campaigns".

Im just a guy doing his best to just be a good person and it's just my opinion, that nobody should get more than $10 million to run for president. Total, period. No Presidential candidate should receive more than $10 million in donations. Win the election on your personality, likeability, thoughts, actions instead of "who gave you money".

Why do you need more than $10 million dollars to run for president? If all you can receive/spend is $10 million, that's about as even of a playing field as I could imagine.

Again, just a low man on the totem pole's opinion. It would obviously never happen because, we're too far gone. Elections are bought these days. The slippery slope is the people buying them. Hope they're on team America! That's all I care about.