What are your thoughts on the controversy? Should she have been fired? I think it's ridiculous. She was talking about a Halloween costume. Get over your racist BS, NBC.
And I'm no Megyn Kelly fan.
And I'm no Megyn Kelly fan.
OT: Megyn Kelly
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She was saying how things used to be. No malice intended, IMO.
Seems like they were looking for a way out of her deal.
Seems like they were looking for a way out of her deal.
Well, most reasonable people understand that dressing up in blackface is offensive and has historically been used to portray racist stereotypes.
That said, I’m sure that her low ratings had a lot to do with the firing as well. If she had a huge hit show that was making a lot of money, I doubt they’d have fired her over it. Seems to me they were probably going to cancel her at some point anyway and this just gave them an excuse.
I think she still gets the full amount from her contract though. Someone at NBC really dropped the ball on that one.
I’m not entirely sure what happened but I think this is a convenient way for NBC to let her go while saving face, I.e: not having to admit they made a mistake. In her current format she’s a fish outta water: she should be doing reporting the news not trying to be a perky morning talk show host.
Katie Couric made the same mistake: she is a perky talk show host but somehow thought she could be a hard hitting evening news anchor.
Katie Couric made the same mistake: she is a perky talk show host but somehow thought she could be a hard hitting evening news anchor.
I’m a white male over 50, so I don’t have any cultural sensitivities, am not capable of discerning white privilege, and am, of course, rich. I can’t take a position one way or another without being attacked as some kind of “-ist”, so I’ll just hang up and listen. I apologize in advance if this post offends anyone.
It's 2018. Regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the current tenor of race relations in America, going on television and mounting a defense for blackface is heroically stupid. Beyond that, her rationale was stupid too. It wasn't okay when she was a kid.
She was not fired in my opinion for discussing people painting their faces
She was fired because she challenged the NBC
Power structure
What is it now
If we discuss race culture or some topic we can be fired or otherwise for a sane discussion
The world is sick in many ways and this with Meghan Kelly is one of the results
Defending the premise of a white person dressing in blackface (be it a Halloween costume or whatever) deserves whatever consequences come with espousing that amount of insensitivity and ignorance.
Hahaha, you are so stupid.
From the outside looking in, it seems like she was simply referring to a benign Halloween centric costume tradition. Not a mockery of any sort. So in that regard, maybe it’s been blown out of proportion some. And also a ratings and money hemorhaging issue. Which makes NBC look self serving.
But, Halloween can be the crutch used with intent to mock or stereotype things as well. It’s not all about ‘honoring’ whatever it is that’s floating your boat that particular year.
as usual, i think the results of human fallacy are extreme which leads to the disagreement of the results being equally extreme. I am not African American. So i can’t remotely say what I think that means to me if i were. It probably offends some and doesn’t offend some.
I also find It a little disingenuous though to tell NBC to just ‘get over it’ when, for example, you’ve demonstrated an inability to just ‘get over it’ when something that shapes your identity and/or own agenda is threatened.
As a general rule, I’d say no.
But I also think this kind of question completely disregards the historical context of the use of blackface.
I clearly posted OT- Megyn Kelly. You should have assumed what it was about unless you live under a rock. How about don't open a thread if you aren't interested? Especially just to criticize.
Perhaps take this as an opportunity to educate yourself and then you might better understand the sensitivities.
Passion without reason is idiocy.
Thread has plenty of continued willful ignorance. But wonderfully, some well thought out balanced responses that don't take sides just utilizing common sense and humanity. Thank you.
I think this link gives some historical context as well shows the double standards of the day we live in.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/25/jimmy-fallon-jimmy-kimmel-sarah-silverman-blackface/
I think you and I have different definitions of what “racist” means.
NBC is part of the liberal media. They all act like they hate America. If you don't agree with me you're a racist, bigot, etc etc. etc. Megyn didn't say anything wrong and she apologized. It's such a freaking double standard and I'm sick of it. Guess what? She's fired and getting paid her entire 69 mil contract. Hope she tells them to kiss her white a$$ on way out the door.
Are you saying you were sexually assaulted in the past--if so my deepest sympathies.
MeToo wasn't just about women coming forward with their stories, but many men as well. Abuse of any kind is a real problem and probably not one that should be trivialized.
You know better than this, @amynhop . The dressing in blackface thing has been around since the 1800's, and it has been racist and offensive towards blacks the entire time. Its not about someone dressing in a Halloween costume, its about making fun of a race of people, and coincidentally its about one that was legally enslaved in this country and then segregated for a long time afterwards.
Some of your conservative positions have merit, but this is one you should let go.
Oh, and as others said, no doubt NBC used this controversy as an excuse to cancel her low ratings show.
My thoughts on the matter are strictly based off what Megyn said. She said "isn't it ok for a Halloween costume?" And she wasn't condoning any costume that would cause racial division. I'm sure she was talking about dressing up like a black athlete, entertainer, etc. Very innocent. How was she in any way making fun of a race of people??? That's asinine.
This isn’t racism from NBC, it’s capitalism.
NBC didn’t just up and decide she said something racist and fired her for it. This was in response to a large public outcry over what she said. NBC is a publicly traded company and has to respond to that kind of controversy.
It might be fair to say that the public blew it out of proportion and should not have responded so harshly, but NBC is just responding to that. That’s capitalism.
And again, if Kelly had a top rated show, they’d stick with her. But she doesn’t. So from a business stand point it wasn’t a hard decision. Again, this is capitalism.
I heard one person suggest that the only black person a white person can imitate on Halloween is Michael Jackson ... don't have to use blackface for him.
She should have stayed at Fox. Liberals were never going to accept her. She was popular on Fox but that ship had sailed.
This is one of those loaded issues that you have to understand the backstory before you dive in. You cant just separate it and say "oh, its ok for Halloween costumes" but ignore the other stuff. This goes way back to the blackface and mistrel stuff that has been going on for over a hundred years. Go watch some of that stuff and see how racist it is and then you will have the context. If you dont then I dont know what to tell you...
I can't separate it and say, It's ok for Halloween costumes?" Says who? Oh, I can and I did. I'm sick of all the what offends me today, BS. There is a lot that offends me and there ain't a damn thing I can do about it.
The larger part of society says so, that's who. The same way I have to comply with the larger parts of societal norms if I want to get things done in some cases. But as you're doing I can choose to fight it.
In this case society is choosing to send a message that they reject this behavior. I'm not a fan of overwhelming political correctness but some are trying to mix human decency with political correctness. Unfortunately decency has become a choice and not the norm in everyone's lives. People would rather fight for their right to be nasty.
What's wrong with a little empathy and compassion? In some cases ti doesn't cost a thing to choose decency. Black face is horrible and has a horrible history. Some get away with it but that doesn't make me want to do it because some can. The N word is horrible but some get away with using it for whatever reason. Guess what. Even tho some can get away with using it I'm not going to argue for my right to use it if I'm not in that group. Why in the hell would I even want to fight for that? I'll use my fight for other more worthy things. Same thing. Why fight for this here? This is born in ignorance and hate. Let it die. But it's your right. But it's also your choice.
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