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OT: Tariff Economics Discussion

Again, your agenda combined with your circumstances allows me to understand your response.

And so we’re clear, it’s 1%er.
Again, we knew all all along your agenda was to 'once again' brag about your circumstances. FYI, the 40% wasn't a reference to wealth.
F*** the voters that were begging for economic relief and trusted him to bring down prices.
 
The Republican will be admired for having the balls to ride the train over the cliff and turn it into a plane as America is going to soar from the consequences of trumps actions

Don't fight it as this is the Salmon run that is the rebirth of a Golden Age not just for America but for the World and all humanity
Can I get some of what you are taking?
 
Some has to start bailing him out or this boat is going to need a snorkel.
Interesting how Powell cut rates .50 basis points right before the election. When inflation was increasing.

We should end the fed and let the market do its job. The Fed is reactionary and does a pretty bad job in hindsight
 
It is absolutely embarrassing to anyone who has 1) taken an economics course in their lifetime and 2) knows how math works.

Lets not forget: The selling point to the American people is that we are getting ripped off, so we are going to rip off other nations. While imposing a sales TAX on us citizens and us companies. If the goal was to bring back jobs to America, we all know that the funding and infrastructure have to exist for that first. Prices on everything are going to go up. Inflation caused by a pandemic was nothing compared to whats about to happen.


If these tariffs remain in place for any number of years, Black rock will own almost every piece of real estate and balance sheet in America. While the GOP looks to gut and deregulate government oversight.


It's fun looking back at ole Black Rock and how they helped create the 08 financial crisis, and how they benefited the most from it. It looks like their play book to me, cause chaos, hurt the markets, buy everything on the cheap while everyone else has NO liquid.
BlackRock already started buying residential houses and has been accumulating them for a long time. This all happened under democratic control. At least you all DID say something about that when it was happening.

You speak evil of BlackRock, but democrats were in charge 12 of the last 16 years and BlackRock seemed to do really well during that time frame.
 
BlackRock already started buying residential houses and has been accumulating them for a long time. This all happened under democratic control. At least you all DID say something about that when it was happening.

You speak evil of BlackRock, but democrats were in charge 12 of the last 16 years and BlackRock seemed to do really well during that time frame.
This is what pure tribalism looks like.
 
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BlackRock already started buying residential houses and has been accumulating them for a long time. This all happened under democratic control. At least you all DID say something about that when it was happening.

You speak evil of BlackRock, but democrats were in charge 12 of the last 16 years and BlackRock seemed to do really well during that time frame.
I was working with my son as a partner buying, remodeling, renting and selling houses starting back about 25 years ago around 2006-2008

Got out about 8-10 years ago selling everything. Great choice at the time.

Banks were taking houses and lumping them in huge groups just to sell them way back like in 2008 for a few years.

Could get decent deals to remodel and flip, but the real deal was the banks working with the BIG CORPORATE BUYERS.

They were buying the market everything that came out. Always wondered why corporates would want so much residential real estate.

Not smart enough to figure out the long plan.
 
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Again, we knew all all along your agenda was to 'once again' brag about your circumstances. FYI, the 40% wasn't a reference to wealth.
F*** the voters that were begging for economic relief and trusted him to bring down prices.
Simpleton with an agenda.
 
Did they propose imposing high tariffs (taxes on Americans) against every country on the planet except for Russia? Did they propose tariffs against countries that can't afford to buy our goods like Cambodia and Vietnam?

I can look at my brokerage account, my 401k and see the recession on the horizon to understand why I'm mad.

It's the economy stupid.
how come you didn't scream from the mountain top in 2022 when the S&P lost 19.44%


YearAverage
Closing Price
Year OpenYear HighYear LowYear CloseAnnual
% Change
20255,879.205,868.556,144.155,396.525,396.52-8.25%
20245,428.244,742.836,090.274,688.685,881.6323.31%
20234,283.733,824.144,783.353,808.104,769.8324.23%
20224,097.494,796.564,796.563,577.033,839.50-19.44%
20214,273.413,700.654,793.063,700.654,766.1826.89%
20203,217.863,257.853,756.072,237.403,756.0716.26%
20192,913.362,510.033,240.022,447.893,230.7828.88%
20182,746.212,695.812,930.752,351.102,506.85-6.24%
20172,449.082,257.832,690.162,257.832,673.6119.42%
20162,094.652,012.662,271.721,829.082,238.839.54%
20152,061.072,058.202,130.821,867.612,043.94-0.73%
 
how come you didn't scream from the mountain top in 2022 when the S&P lost 19.44%


YearAverage
Closing Price
Year OpenYear HighYear LowYear CloseAnnual
% Change
20255,879.205,868.556,144.155,396.525,396.52-8.25%
20245,428.244,742.836,090.274,688.685,881.6323.31%
20234,283.733,824.144,783.353,808.104,769.8324.23%
20224,097.494,796.564,796.563,577.033,839.50-19.44%
20214,273.413,700.654,793.063,700.654,766.1826.89%
20203,217.863,257.853,756.072,237.403,756.0716.26%
20192,913.362,510.033,240.022,447.893,230.7828.88%
20182,746.212,695.812,930.752,351.102,506.85-6.24%
20172,449.082,257.832,690.162,257.832,673.6119.42%
20162,094.652,012.662,271.721,829.082,238.839.54%
20152,061.072,058.202,130.821,867.612,043.94-0.73%
Maybe I did and you didn't hear it unless you wiretapped my house. Can you investigate and let me know why it dropped that much? Was it because Biden did something outrageously stupid?
 
how come you didn't scream from the mountain top in 2022 when the S&P lost 19.44%


YearAverage
Closing Price
Year OpenYear HighYear LowYear CloseAnnual
% Change
20255,879.205,868.556,144.155,396.525,396.52-8.25%
20245,428.244,742.836,090.274,688.685,881.6323.31%
20234,283.733,824.144,783.353,808.104,769.8324.23%
20224,097.494,796.564,796.563,577.033,839.50-19.44%
20214,273.413,700.654,793.063,700.654,766.1826.89%
20203,217.863,257.853,756.072,237.403,756.0716.26%
20192,913.362,510.033,240.022,447.893,230.7828.88%
20182,746.212,695.812,930.752,351.102,506.85-6.24%
20172,449.082,257.832,690.162,257.832,673.6119.42%
20162,094.652,012.662,271.721,829.082,238.839.54%
20152,061.072,058.202,130.821,867.612,043.94-0.73%

Did it happen over two days directly related to a decision/strategy of the President?

Remind me what global event happened in 2020 that might have had a massive impact on the stock market and global economy in 2021-2022
 
Did it happen over two days directly related to a decision/strategy of the President?

Remind me what global event happened in 2020 that might have had a massive impact on the stock market and global economy in 2021-2022
Simpletons trying to apply a gotcha moment to economic plans that successfully avoided a post pandemic depression/recession are the worst. These MAGA geniuses really are a good faith monolith.
 
how come you didn't scream from the mountain top in 2022 when the S&P lost 19.44%


YearAverage
Closing Price
Year OpenYear HighYear LowYear CloseAnnual
% Change
20255,879.205,868.556,144.155,396.525,396.52-8.25%
20245,428.244,742.836,090.274,688.685,881.6323.31%
20234,283.733,824.144,783.353,808.104,769.8324.23%
20224,097.494,796.564,796.563,577.033,839.50-19.44%
20214,273.413,700.654,793.063,700.654,766.1826.89%
20203,217.863,257.853,756.072,237.403,756.0716.26%
20192,913.362,510.033,240.022,447.893,230.7828.88%
20182,746.212,695.812,930.752,351.102,506.85-6.24%
20172,449.082,257.832,690.162,257.832,673.6119.42%
20162,094.652,012.662,271.721,829.082,238.839.54%
20152,061.072,058.202,130.821,867.612,043.94-0.73%
Because this is self induced by the whim of one person. I have to give him create, he was able to surround himself with those that would defend anything he does. The fact that almost zero Republicans are even questioning this strategy might be even more troubling than what the markets are currently doing.
 
Two thoughts:

Your lifestyle will change if we have a recession and you get laid off.

If we do bring manufacturing back home, where will the tariff money come from that he says will make us rich?
Very seriously doubt I'll be laid off. I'm one of two database admins at work. NOTHING works w/o the database up and running. AND if I did get laid off, I'd have another job in a week. People are always looking for oracle guys with 20 plus years experience.

Case in point, back in 2011, my wife wanted to take a tenure track position out here in Idaho. It wasn't a great job market during that time. But I threw my resume on monster.com (a jobs website back in the day... no idea if it's still there). Within a couple of weeks I'd gotten 3 Idaho job offers and was hired by phone w/o ever even coming out here.

But your point is well taken. IF there is a recession, Trump will have to answer for that Trump will have to blame someone else for that. But Trump's policies are front and center here, and with the departure from business as usual, there's little doubt the results will be his. There's actually time to have a recession and come out of it before the midterms. Like I said, Trump has a vision of what will make the US better economically and address the debt we have. He got elected and we'll see how it works out for him.
 
how come you didn't scream from the mountain top in 2022 when the S&P lost 19.44%


YearAverage
Closing Price
Year OpenYear HighYear LowYear CloseAnnual
% Change
20255,879.205,868.556,144.155,396.525,396.52-8.25%
20245,428.244,742.836,090.274,688.685,881.6323.31%
20234,283.733,824.144,783.353,808.104,769.8324.23%
20224,097.494,796.564,796.563,577.033,839.50-19.44%
20214,273.413,700.654,793.063,700.654,766.1826.89%
20203,217.863,257.853,756.072,237.403,756.0716.26%
20192,913.362,510.033,240.022,447.893,230.7828.88%
20182,746.212,695.812,930.752,351.102,506.85-6.24%
20172,449.082,257.832,690.162,257.832,673.6119.42%
20162,094.652,012.662,271.721,829.082,238.839.54%
20152,061.072,058.202,130.821,867.612,043.94-0.73%
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lol you give him far too much credit. dude bankrupted casinos.
You are mistaken here. I'm not giving him credit, I think he's making some really bad mistakes. My point is that he ran on exactly what he's doing. He won, so he gets to do things his way. We'll have to see how that goes. His followers on here are going to be with him no matter what. I mean if he gave the nuclear codes to Putin, the Trumpians on here would be dancing in the streets welcoming our new Russian overlords. So there's that, BUT if he runs the economy into a recession, it's going to be hard to convince anyone but his hard core followers that he's not messing things up.
 
Here is the hard truth. The only people not inflamed right now either have very, very little to lose, are already heavily invested in gold or are already sitting on a pile of cash ready to jump on this fire sale. I think I know which bucket most of these "everything is fine, no worries" posters land in...
 
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