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OT: Tariff Economics Discussion

Virtue signaling at its finest.

You think the world is ending? Those risky portfolios won’t have a comeback?

Sky is falling is just humorous.
Didn’t say anything of the sort. I said I feel for the boomers whose retirements are getting decimated. Idk where you got the sky is falling from. Your glaring lack of empathy is funny for someone who’s always professing his Christianity.

How about my family? How about when I get my monthly commission that I count on to provide for my family and half is gone in taxes. Yall can gfy. This is exactly why we are in this mess. Selfish ass boomers. Oh cry me a river you can’t retire in Panama in your three condos. My kids need lunch. Boo hoo your stock portfolio is down. I have bills to pay you asshole. I’m out here killing myself so you can sit around and count your money. Get real man.
Lol I’m late 30s, I can just empathize with those who are losing everything.
 
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Didn’t say anything of the sort. I said I feel for the boomers whose retirements are getting decimated. Idk where you got the sky is falling from. Your glaring lack of empathy is funny for someone who’s always professing his Christianity.


Lol I’m late 30s, I can just empathize with those who are losing everything.
I have a substantial amount of money in my 401k. I’m losing my ass. But I’m ok with it if they do what they say they’re going to. What we have now is a literal ticking time bomb. It has to be stopped. The taxes, inflation, printing money, spending, it’s reached defcon levels. Give me a nation. Let’s do it right. I paid over $40k in taxes last year, I’m a W2 guy, I’m not wealthy or well off, I do not have exorbitant taste or spending habits. I’m a normal man. It’s killing the middle class. Literally. Things are to the point that you’re better off making about 100k or LESS as a family. And that’s sad.
 
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Didn’t say anything of the sort. I said I feel for the boomers whose retirements are getting decimated. Idk where you got the sky is falling from. Your glaring lack of empathy is funny for someone who’s always professing his Christianity.


Lol I’m late 30s, I can just empathize with those who are losing everything.
I have such empathy for all those hard working risk takers whose businesses and livelihoods have been threatened by such high taxation and inflation. It’s sad you don’t want to help these people.

See how that works?
 
I have a 401k, an IRA, an investment account, BTC, all that. Idc what happens to my retirement right now today. I’m not going to retire for another 25 years. You need to understand that part. There’s millions of people like me that dgaf about our 401k bc we are being obliterated with taxes and inflation. I want a nation that is America and Americans first. That may mean my 401 takes a little hit, I’m ok with that. A 401k to the 40 year olds making the country work is meaningless. It’s just a number on a screen until they’ve turned 67. The freak out is premature, yall need to calm down and take a look at what’s happened and understand it’s not even remotely sustainable. My generation cannot fund all the boomers and illegals and all your other nonsense. We don’t want to either . It was posted earlier that 10% of the population controls 88% of the market, that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. You gambled with your money. Oh well!
So we have now gone from America First to Me First. I get it...it really boils down to jealousy.

I don't disagree that the distribution of wealth has gone off of the rails, however, if it's good for a gazillionaire and good for you, well why not?
 
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So we have now gone from America First to Me First. I get it...it really boils down to jealousy.

I don't disagree that the distribution of wealth has gone off of the rails, however, if it's good for a gazillionaire and good for you, well why not?
I’ve done ok, I’m educated, but idk what you’re talking about. It’s my family first. What else would it be? Is that odd to you? If so feel free to mail me some cash. America first is a policy where we don’t send billions to other countries while we have problems here and things like that. Or not letting in 20 million people and putting them on SSI. You seem very confused.
 
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If you need a short term windfall then you were way worse off than you let on. The market is a long game.
But seriously. Either tail Pelosi or fade Cramer. It’s been working wonders.
Don’t ‘need’ a short term windfall, just something to make up for the losses Dear Leader has so gratuitously given us with the “Biggest and Best” tariffs ever. Following politicians usually means you are several months behind the real (inside) profits.
 
I’ve done ok, I’m educated, but idk what you’re talking about. It’s my family first. What else would it be? Is that odd to you? If so feel free to mail me some cash. America first is a policy where we don’t send billions to other countries while we have problems here and things like that. Or not letting in 20 million people and putting them on SSI. You seem very confused.
This is the same angle the left used in regard to bring vaxxed, global warming (now climate change, how convenient), etc.

They don’t actually care about the actual cause(s), but sincerely care about guilting you into following their agenda(s), or you’re now the bad guy. How dare you.
 
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Don’t ‘need’ a short term windfall, just something to make up for the losses Dear Leader has so gratuitously given us with the “Biggest and Best” tariffs ever. Following politicians usually means you are several months behind the real (inside) profits.
No, there’s an account on X. He posts trades by congress in real time. There’s actually several of them. Dems and Pubs. Pretty sure theres an account to tail Tuberville and one for Crenshaw. Cramer is real time. BTC looks good. There’s so much info out there if you have the time. Unfortunately that’s the nature of the market, winners and losers as you know. It can come back and grow just as quickly as it left.
 
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This is the same angle the left used in regard to bring vaxxed, global warming (now climate change, how convenient), etc.

They don’t actually care about the actual cause(s), but sincerely care about guilting you into following their agenda(s), or you’re now the bad guy. How dare you.
Using negative emotion is definitely in the playbook. Several instances of overreaction then it being walked back the last few years. Especially social issues.
 
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Well well well.

BREAKING: The European Union says they're ready to negotiate with the United States, says they've offered zero for zero tariffs.

The announcement was made by European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen.

"Europe is always ready for a good deal. So we keep it on the table,” she said.

Von der Leyen added the EU "offered zero for zero tariffs for industrial goods, … because Europe is always ready for good deal."
 
No, there’s an account on X. He posts trades by congress in real time. There’s actually several of them. Dems and Pubs. Pretty sure theres an account to tail Tuberville and one for Crenshaw. Cramer is real time. BTC looks good. There’s so much info out there if you have the time. Unfortunately that’s the nature of the market, winners and losers as you know. It can come back and grow just as quickly as it left.
Counting on at least a dead cat.
 
Counting on at least a dead cat.
No you’re probably right. America as we know it doomed. We will cease to exist over this stupid president’s policy’s. There will be songs about the old great American republic.
 
No you’re probably right. America as we know it doomed. We will cease to exist over this stupid president’s policy’s. There will be songs about the old great American republic.
Have been nostalgia songs and stories forever, why would that change?
 
we are being obliterated with taxes and inflation.
Which taxes are the problem? Income, Sales, Capital Gains? Are you more concerned with how much you pay or others not paying their share? This country levies a relatively low federal income tax. Are you advocating for a flat tax? Will that satisfy the current infrastructure issues in this country?

I know I stacked a lot of questions here but trying to understand exactly what you are upset at?
 
And we have a pathologically lying criminal who bankrupted casinos and has gone bankrupt himself 5 or 6 times after getting a $400M inheritance from daddy running the show alongside the clown show cabinet he assembled. Some of us don't trust these morons to make it through the next 30 seconds without doing something stupid much less 25 years down the road.

I wish I could say something that would help you to be more understanding and compromising.

Not seeing the wood chip in someone else's eye when then is a log in your eye

The MAGA AND AMERICA FIRST MOVEMENT will run possibly for the next 15 to 20 years .

You may want to adjust your thinking to desl with it as it may be the right way to live.

Just ASKING HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED YOU MAY BE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THIS IDEOLOGY

JUST CONSIDER THAT
 
Well well well.

BREAKING: The European Union says they're ready to negotiate with the United States, says they've offered zero for zero tariffs.

The announcement was made by European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen.

"Europe is always ready for a good deal. So we keep it on the table,” she said.

Von der Leyen added the EU "offered zero for zero tariffs for industrial goods, … because Europe is always ready for good deal."

If you read my posts I think you will find I have been dead on right

Never put yourself in a situation you need to panic

These folks on here who panic need to back off from watching their 401 and let a Financial Advisor handle it and only look at it each quarter
 
Well well well.

BREAKING: The European Union says they're ready to negotiate with the United States, says they've offered zero for zero tariffs.

The announcement was made by European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen.

"Europe is always ready for a good deal. So we keep it on the table,” she said.

Von der Leyen added the EU "offered zero for zero tariffs for industrial goods, … because Europe is always ready for good deal."
Is Zero for Zero a good deal for the US? Can the US compete head-to-head on price with Europe for goods?
 
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Well well well.

BREAKING: The European Union says they're ready to negotiate with the United States, says they've offered zero for zero tariffs.

The announcement was made by European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen.

"Europe is always ready for a good deal. So we keep it on the table,” she said.

Von der Leyen added the EU "offered zero for zero tariffs for industrial goods, … because Europe is always ready for good deal."

Farmers are the voting bloc Europe worries about
 
Which taxes are the problem? Income, Sales, Capital Gains? Are you more concerned with how much you pay or others not paying their share? This country levies a relatively low federal income tax. Are you advocating for a flat tax? Will that satisfy the current infrastructure issues in this country?

I know I stacked a lot of questions here but trying to understand exactly what you are upset at?
Being taxed from every available angle. If you’re not at least disgruntled with this, you’ve been conditioned.
 
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Not to start another thread but everyone on here is ignoring the barriers other than TARIFFS

REGULATIONS RULES REQUIREMENTS to limit foreign trade also needs to be reset

The USA and MAGA DONALD TRUMP AMERICA FIRST FIRED A MASSIVE PREEMPTIVE FIRST STRIKE AGAINST THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT ECONOMIC POLICIES MUST BE RESET WORLDWIDE

OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE WHO IS GOING TO WIN DESPITE THE TERRIFIED CHILDREN

TARIFFS PER THE SCARED SENSELESS ARE TRANSITORY

INLIKE THE DEMOCRATIC INFLATION

TRUMP PRESSED THE RESET BUTTON
 
Which taxes are the problem? Income, Sales, Capital Gains? Are you more concerned with how much you pay or others not paying their share? This country levies a relatively low federal income tax. Are you advocating for a flat tax? Will that satisfy the current infrastructure issues in this country?

I know I stacked a lot of questions here but trying to understand exactly what you are upset at?
Mostly the invisible tax that democrats totally ignored and it cost them the election.
 
Being taxed from every available angle. If you’re not at least disgruntled with this, you’ve been conditioned.
Plus the invisible tax of inflation.

Remember when we were told that we should put up with a little inflation to help Ukraine? And now these bozos won’t take any (theoretical to come) inflation to help America.
 
The king of make shit up (MSU) is speaking.

Even talking about love and affection 😂

Word salad
 
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By invisible tax I assume you are referring to inflation?

I don't think that's what the poster was referring to.
He rattled off a list of taxes in sales, income, capital gains ..... but he left off the biggest tax of them all. It also happened to be the biggest issue in the last election imo.

If he is asking which taxes we have a problem with, might as well get the biggest one out there as an option.

Inflation is not an explicit tax, so that's why it's called the hidden tax. (obviously)
 
He rattled off a list of taxes in sales, income, capital gains ..... but he left off the biggest tax of them all. It also happened to be the biggest issue in the last election imo.

If he is asking which taxes we have a problem with, might as well get the biggest one out there as an option.

Inflation is not an explicit tax, so that's why it's called the hidden tax. (obviously)

But you knew to blame Trump right?

I have always loved your complete willingness to Blame Biden and Dems for inflation while not acknowledging that most of what lead to the inflation happened during Trump's watch.
 
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But you knew to blame Trump right?

I have always loved your complete willingness to Blame Biden and Dems for inflation while not acknowledging that most of what lead to the inflation happened during Trump's watch.

I would take that argument seriously if the following weren’t true.

1) At the beginning of the Biden admin Janet Yellen said that “inflation is transitory”.

2) Democrats didn’t try to pass BBB during the PEAK of inflation for the last 50+ years.
 
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I would take that argument seriously if the following weren’t true.

1) At the beginning of the Biden admin Janet Yellen said that “inflation is transitory”.

2) Democrats didn’t try to pass BBB during the PEAK of inflation for the last 50+ years.
DID YOU EVEN SAY THANK YOU for the soft landing?
 
I would take that argument seriously if the following weren’t true.

1) At the beginning of the Biden admin Janet Yellen said that “inflation is transitory”.

2) Democrats didn’t try to pass BBB during the PEAK of inflation for the last 50+ years.

So what about Yelling saying it's transitory do you think she meant, and why do you find that to be such a telling thing?

It seems fairly common sense that Inflation transitions based on a multitude of factors.

They didn't pass the bill, but increased government spending has been a tool/tactic used throughout history to get an economy moving. We can argue whether it should have been done, but it's not as if it's some ridiculous idea.

Neither of these issues are the gotcha you seem to think it is l, you seem to have a tendency to internalize some catch phrase points that you feel are your Trump cards, I have seen you spout 51 Agents and Yelling saying Transitory about 50 times.
 
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