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OT: Team USA Hoops….embarrasses again

Criticism and disrespect are 2 totally different things. People can voice opinions and critique all they want...no qualms there. It's the physical acts of kneeling/turning back to flag/talking during anthem/refusing to stand for flag or anthem - that's a blatant act of disrespect and goes way further than criticism.
howcome most of this board blatantly roots against the women's national soccer team for saying they want equal pay then? It isn't about the flag or the anthem. It's about wanting athletes who disagree with you to shut up and just play

Which is pathetic
 
My 13 year old son has been into basketball lately (Dallas Mavericks) so I've watched more NBA this year than in the last 20. I quit watching NBA after Karl Malone and John Stockton retired.

The game has really changed. Most of the really good players seem to be European. Lots of big men with complete games (can run the court, pass, step back and hit 3's...). Lots of them are from Eastern Europe. I don't know that it will be a cakewalk for Team USA with all these guys back playing for their home Countries.
 
howcome most of this board blatantly roots against the women's national soccer team for saying they want equal pay then? It isn't about the flag or the anthem. It's about wanting athletes who disagree with you to shut up and just play

Which is pathetic

No it's not. They've been asking for equal pay for decades. When they started kneeling and disrespecting the country, that's when backlash started. No one ever said a word before the physical protests.
 
Criticism and disrespect are 2 totally different things. People can voice opinions and critique all they want...no qualms there. It's the physical acts of kneeling/turning back to flag/talking during anthem/refusing to stand for flag or anthem - that's a blatant act of disrespect and goes way further than criticism.

"Athletes shouldn’t be forced to stand for a ceremony many players have rejected so wholeheartedly that they’re not even bothering to show up anymore.
An all-too-familiar nightly performance of nationalism would ensue — for 40 years, the National Basketball Association has required players “to stand and line up in a dignified posture” during the national anthem — and then Irving and Durant would return to join their teammates for the starting lineups as if nothing had happened.

It is one thing for so many people at barbecues and ball games this holiday weekend to willfully ignore that “The Star-Spangled Banner” is the product of a poem written by the slave owner Francis Scott Key spewing hate like this: "No refuge could save the hireling and slave / From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave." But athletes shouldn’t be forced to stand for a ceremony many players have rejected so wholeheartedly that they’re not even bothering to show up anymore. Their declarations of independence, unseen though the rebuke may be, deserve to be heard this July 4.

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Now two of the NBA’s brightest stars have been skipping the anthem, and more players have broken their league’s rule forbidding hands in pockets or bodies turned against the flag. While several NBA franchises have occasionally added “Lift Every Voice and Sing” to their arena soundtracks, that’s only a start: If the NBA, with nearly 75 percent of players identifying as Black or African American, is really the most liberal sports league on Earth, then the NBA Finals starting this week should be the last time we hear a racist song blare before tipoff again.

Basketball players have been over the national anthem since long before Kaepernick’s silent protest. After all, the original Kap was a hooper: Twenty-five years ago, a reporter finally noticed Denver Nuggets guard Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf staying behind in the locker room for a few extra minutes or tying his Nikes a little tighter pregame, or else turning away from the flag. With his silent protest discovered, Abdul-Rauf doubled down by calling the anthem “a symbol of oppression and tyranny.” The NBA commissioner at the time, David Stern, said the league told him he could remain backstage or come out and stand, or else face suspension. Abdul-Rauf said no. He eventually made a deal to stand and pray, but he was also eventually blackballed from the league.
 
Anyone who falls in line with those beliefs should not be allowed to represent team USA. Sorry. Just my .02
 
No it's not. They've been asking for equal pay for decades. When they started kneeling and disrespecting the country, that's when backlash started. No one ever said a word before the physical protests.
While you're right about people actively cheering against the women's soccer team, they've got a lot of problems besides just disrespecting the country. The sooner they lose and go away, the better.

This is really just reaping what you're sowing by using your sports platform to be a prominent activist, especially in ways that implicate your national identity.
 
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No it's not. They've been asking for equal pay for decades. When they started kneeling and disrespecting the country, that's when backlash started. No one ever said a word before the physical protests.
it actually got people to pay attention to their cause after, as you say, asking for it for decades. They had to take extreme measures because nobody gave a crap before then

Sounds familiar
 
While you're right about people actively cheering against the women's soccer team, they've got a lot of problems besides just disrespecting the country. The sooner they lose and go away, the better.
Agree. Kudos to Hamm and the other feminine players. The repugnant dikes who turn to female companionship due to lack of male affection and claim "identity crisis" so they can lay their heads down at night and go to sleep can gtfo.
 
it actually got people to pay attention to their cause after, as you say, asking for it for decades. They had to take extreme measures because nobody gave a crap before then

Sounds familiar
No one gave a crap because the numbers don't bear out equal pay. If they generated as much revenue as the men's side, they would have an argument. Take names and faces out of it, look strictly at the numbers, and it's a no brainer. They actually make more % revenue than the men. It's just a smaller pool.
 
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it actually got people to pay attention to their cause after, as you say, asking for it for decades. They had to take extreme measures because nobody gave a crap before then

Sounds familiar
And now nobody gives a crap about them or the sport. Evidenced by ratings declines.
 
And now nobody gives a crap about them or the sport. Evidenced by ratings declines.
ratings declines for women's national soccer? lol

I am sure the ratings for women's soccer before were being driven by all the old, conservative white males who choose to no longer watch them

oh wait. That's just not true whatsoever
 
ratings declines for women's national soccer? lol

I am sure the ratings for women's soccer before were being driven by all the old, conservative white males who choose to no longer watch them

oh wait. That's just not true whatsoever
My comment was towards the ratings decline of the nba. Your posts always drip with disdain for white males. Why the butthurt?
 

Judge Klausner held that the USSF had not violated the EPA in part because he found that, on a per-game basis from 2015 to 2019, the USWNT was paid a higher wage rate than the USMNT. Specifically, the Court found that members of the USWNT were paid an average of $220,747 per game (by making $24.5 million in 111 games) while members of the USMNT were paid $212,639 per game ($18.5 million earned over 87 games).
 
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Criticism and disrespect are 2 totally different things. People can voice opinions and critique all they want...no qualms there. It's the physical acts of kneeling/turning back to flag/talking during anthem/refusing to stand for flag or anthem - that's a blatant act of disrespect and goes way further than criticism.
It's your opinion that kneeling is disrespectful. I could say the same for the idiots who break the flag code in their pursuit of low brow patriotism. They have clearly stated why they are kneeling, and it has nothing to do with disrespecting the country. Anyone who actually reads into it understands that.
Anyway, its great that our country allows such discussion. Imagine living in a country where you couldn't and that it was illegal to do something that someone thought was disrespectful.
 
My comment was towards the ratings decline of the nba. Your posts always drip with disdain for white males. Why the butthurt?
well you responded to the wrong post then

No disdain whatsoever. Just saying that I don't think the women's soccer ratings are missing that group from their ratings since they weren't there to begin with
 
It's your opinion that kneeling is disrespectful. I could say the same for the idiots who break the flag code in their pursuit of low brow patriotism. They have clearly stated why they are kneeling, and it has nothing to do with disrespecting the country. Anyone who actually reads into it understands that.
Anyway, its great that our country allows such discussion. Imagine living in a country where you couldn't and that it was illegal to do something that someone thought was disrespectful.

Oh I respect their right to kneel. Just as I hope they respect my right to not watch/support them. To each their own
 
Agree. Kudos to Hamm and the other feminine players. The repugnant dikes who turn to female companionship due to lack of male affection and claim "identity crisis" so they can lay their heads down at night and go to sleep can gtfo.
Oh wow so you’re a douche. Good to know
 
Call it what you will...I'm a 2 gender, God fearing, common sense kinda guy. Btw I'm also pro choice. So go ahead and paint that picture for me.
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