You are exactly right. I will be a PA in the near future and primary care physicians are going away. The future will be midlevels as a gateway to specialists.
Our Healthcare in this country is an absolute
- Thread starter CU1TruTiger4Life
- Start date
If the clown in the White House hadn't insulted him he might have gotten his vote.
While I see what you are saying IF McCain did not vote because he got his feelings hurt then that shows exactly the type of person McCain was. Putting your personal feelings above the betterment of the people that voted you in.
How does ending someone's health insurance, who is sick, without any replacement "better" them?
If you listen to what McCain, who was dying of an illness, said at the time, I think his vote was predicted on the lack of any viable alternative being part of the repeal legislation.
Murkowski and Collins, both GOP, voted against it as well so it isn't all on McCain
012154 is spot on.......Over my career our once honorable healing profession has devolved into a for-profit business enterprise run by corporate suits instead of mom and pop private practitioners. While not perfect it beats where we’re headed. Clearly a case of “the cure” being worse than “the disease”. The worst is yet to come.
Yep, and for 3 years in a row I got a "rebate" of my premium because my BC/BS provider didn't spend at least the 85% on claims (I think it's actually 80%)....so guess what? They raised my premiums a little more than my rebate the next month. Government doesn't understand how business works.
I had a close family member have to get Obamacare. She had numerous health issues and was getting older but she still worked a part time job. Her pre-Obamacare insurance was seemingly expensive at the time...450 a month, 1000 deductible but it covered most of her issues (lupus, chronic arthritis, two knee surgeries). Along came Obama and government to the rescue.
Her BEST option under the AFCA raised her monthly premium to 800 and the deductible was 5000. Yes, FIVE THOUSAND. Not only that, her doctor didn't accept her new insurance, so no, she couldn't keep her doctor of 20 years. Her arthritis med copay went from 10 bucks to 78.
But what about subsidies? Most people qualify for subsidies because Obama and government are looking out for the people. Well, she did qualify for a subsidy. So maybe it all balances out, right? Wrong...the subsidy counts towards your income and you have to pay income taxes on it. She hasn't received a tax refund since Obamacare.
So f**k Obamacare.
F**k Obama.
And f**k these lousy politicians.
And while we're at it, f**k Trump and his tariffs.
Her BEST option under the AFCA raised her monthly premium to 800 and the deductible was 5000. Yes, FIVE THOUSAND. Not only that, her doctor didn't accept her new insurance, so no, she couldn't keep her doctor of 20 years. Her arthritis med copay went from 10 bucks to 78.
But what about subsidies? Most people qualify for subsidies because Obama and government are looking out for the people. Well, she did qualify for a subsidy. So maybe it all balances out, right? Wrong...the subsidy counts towards your income and you have to pay income taxes on it. She hasn't received a tax refund since Obamacare.
So f**k Obamacare.
F**k Obama.
And f**k these lousy politicians.
And while we're at it, f**k Trump and his tariffs.
That's true, but they never were against it all that much. McCain made a big deal about repealing it for 8 years. The night before the vote, the votes were there to repeal it. McCain changed his stated intentions the next day.
I believe "Concierge Care" is a good place to start. It's a growing concept. Pair it with Catastrophic Insurance.
No matter how you rationalize it, they were against it enough to vote against it.
One last time...The point is not who was or wasn't for it or against it. The original thought was why it didn't get voted down. At midnight, the night before the vote, McCain was going to vote to repeal. At midnight, McConnell had the votes to repeal. The next morning, the ONLY VOTE that was different than at midnight, was McCain's vote.
I believe McCain changed his vote only to stick it to Trump. He did not do it for citizens.
Hopefully, the squeaky wheel gets the grease but you really have to fight for everything.
The more the government involvement, the higher the costs & the worse the product.
Always.
There is no clearer example than public schools vs private schools vs homeschools.
Public schools are the HIGHEST COST.
But standardized testing has the LOWEST scores.
Homeschooling has the LOWEST cost and the HIGHEST scores.
Medical is exactly thd same.
When I was a kid in the 60s and 70s, our family doctor only had ONE other person in the office; his wife, who was both nurse and receptionist.
A doctor visit was maybe $15 or so.
He made housecalls.
You got excellent, personalized service.
If you didn't have $15, you paid what you could, and paid the rest as you could.
Now,
-The price is $140 or so
-4 or 5 women, receptionist, fighting for $ from insurance companies plus nurses
- NO house calls
Decades of government regulation, insurance, and litigation worries; and there are those who want MORE government, MORE insurance???
They must be INSANE !!!
Look, the knowledge and technology of today are far better, no doubt.
EVERYTHING else is FAR worse!!!
We need to remove virtually every new regulation, totally limit litigation, and severely limit insurance!!!
Give us back the low cost, excellent customer service of 50 years ago !!!
Always.
There is no clearer example than public schools vs private schools vs homeschools.
Public schools are the HIGHEST COST.
But standardized testing has the LOWEST scores.
Homeschooling has the LOWEST cost and the HIGHEST scores.
Medical is exactly thd same.
When I was a kid in the 60s and 70s, our family doctor only had ONE other person in the office; his wife, who was both nurse and receptionist.
A doctor visit was maybe $15 or so.
He made housecalls.
You got excellent, personalized service.
If you didn't have $15, you paid what you could, and paid the rest as you could.
Now,
-The price is $140 or so
-4 or 5 women, receptionist, fighting for $ from insurance companies plus nurses
- NO house calls
Decades of government regulation, insurance, and litigation worries; and there are those who want MORE government, MORE insurance???
They must be INSANE !!!
Look, the knowledge and technology of today are far better, no doubt.
EVERYTHING else is FAR worse!!!
We need to remove virtually every new regulation, totally limit litigation, and severely limit insurance!!!
Give us back the low cost, excellent customer service of 50 years ago !!!
The original Obamacare let you keep your doctor and lowered costs until GOP politicians got in and made sure to cover their insurance company lobbying friends
I'm sorry your family member didn't find a plan she liked, but that's not true. Simply put, an Obamacare subsidy is not taxable income.
Costs have essentially doubled since Barry's pet was approved an d care has never been worse.
healthcare spending/costs have essentially doubled every 10 years since the 1970s, its not Obamacare's fault.
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org...-spending-healthcare-changed-time/#item-start
I dont get the sense you are interested in objective discussion here though...
EDIT: there are even multiple charts in there that suggest that Obamacare might have slowed that growth.
Namely the per capita charts.
And, oh look, obamacare got administrative costs under control too.
It's a good thing he wasn't taken alive or Trump would be issuing him a presidential pardon.
you know what I think is insane? Thinking that healthcare should be the same today as it was in the 1960s...
$1400 per year at my work just for being in the normal BMI range, in shape and not smoking.
agree with wellness incentives. asking that people remain within BMI "norms" is patently ridiculous. Better not lift any weights then...
lots of literature out there on BMI being inaccurate for weightlifters and athletes. at 5'9" 220 in high school with about 22% body fat I was in the "obese" category.
even ignoring the literature, a simple measure that only takes into account height and weight is obviously too simplistic.
EDIT:
Travis Etienne - 5' 10 201 = "overweight".
Austin Bryant - 6' 6" 280 = "obese"
Kendall Joseph - 6' 0" 236 = "Obese"
Tavien Feaster - 5' 11" 216 = "Obese"
you get the point
Last edited:
Military couldn't did it without Obama reversing Bush's decision and reallocating intelligence resources. President's dictate intelligence priorities (NIPF)...the military just follows the intelligence...Bush was more focused on Iraq...under Obama the AFPAK surge placed more emphasis on Afghanistan and Pakistan....where was OBL found?
Latest posts
-
-
-
**New** (Larry) Clemson Basketball Update: Latest On Del Jones- Latest: southerncaltiger
