i'm absolutely shocked that two of the dumbest posters on TI (olefastball and hamas) are siding with russia. i never saw this coming, nope no sirree.
Perfect summation of what’s going on in Russia
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It's crazy, right. I never thought I would see the day where "patriots" like @Hammerdawg.NEAR would be cheering for Putin over their own country.
Is the US corrupt. Sure. Has the US done terrible things to other countries to further our own interests? Absolutely. I lived in Latin America for years and you can find examples in every country where we involved ourselves for our gain.
But none of that changes the fact that letting Putin get what he wants just because he talks about nukes is a ****ING TERRIBLE IDEA. History has proven to us that it is a terrible idea.
You guys just make shit up. I’m not siding with anyone. You’re all fvcking liars, whatever pushes your narratives
Well, Russia is an enemy country. You can tell b/c they have nuclear weapons pointed at us. Putin does everything he can against American interests. The US SHOULD be working to bring Russia down. That's what you do to enemies. Most of the world is against Russia right now. Can you imagine what would happen if he used a tactical nuke?
This war with Russia is the best thing that has happened for America in a while. Putin has had the upper hand lately with furthering Russian interest at the expense of American interests. Now Russia REALLY stepped on their own dicks here and are in a war that they never saw being a problem.
There's a reason that the US and Europe haven't given Ukraine the tools to win vs Russia... We don't actually want them to win. Ukraine has no love for the US and IMHO they'd be a poor addition to NATO. We want this to continue just as it is. Europe and the US kick in enough cash and equipment to keep Ukraine in the fight. Ukraine manages to hang on, and Russia bleeds themselves white trying to take over a country that they should have been able to crush in a week.
America laughs as Russia circles the toilet. We don't want to directly attack them we don't want Ukraine to directly attack them. Putin would use Nukes as a last resort, but he really can't with the way things are going now. He can't just trade with Iran and N Korea. Even China would have nothing to do with him if he dropped a nuke over what's happening now.
This war with Russia is the best thing that has happened for America in a while. Putin has had the upper hand lately with furthering Russian interest at the expense of American interests. Now Russia REALLY stepped on their own dicks here and are in a war that they never saw being a problem.
There's a reason that the US and Europe haven't given Ukraine the tools to win vs Russia... We don't actually want them to win. Ukraine has no love for the US and IMHO they'd be a poor addition to NATO. We want this to continue just as it is. Europe and the US kick in enough cash and equipment to keep Ukraine in the fight. Ukraine manages to hang on, and Russia bleeds themselves white trying to take over a country that they should have been able to crush in a week.
America laughs as Russia circles the toilet. We don't want to directly attack them we don't want Ukraine to directly attack them. Putin would use Nukes as a last resort, but he really can't with the way things are going now. He can't just trade with Iran and N Korea. Even China would have nothing to do with him if he dropped a nuke over what's happening now.
“So Putin is now saying it’s independent, a large section of Ukraine. I said, ‘How smart is that?’ And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. That’s the strongest peace force.”
Fmr. President Donald Trump
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“If Putin likes Donald Trump, I consider that an asset, not a liability, because we have a horrible relationship with Russia.”
Fmr. President Donald Trump
January 2017 · Quote Source
TWEET
“[Putin is] taking over a country for two dollars worth of sanctions. I’d say that’s pretty smart.”
Fmr. President Donald Trump
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Remember that Zelenskyy is a thug. Remember that the Ukrainian government is incredibly corrupt and it is incredibly evil and has been pushing woke ideologies.”
Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-NC)
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“NATO has been supplying the neo-Nazis in Ukraine with powerful weapons and extensive training on how to use them. What the hell is going with these #NATONazis?”
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“You see Ukraine just kept poking the bear, poking the bear, which is Russia, and Russia invaded. And the hard truth is … there is no win for Ukraine here. Russia is being very successful in their invasion.”
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA)
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“I think we should probably take the side of Russia, if we have to choose between Russia and Ukraine.”
Tucker Carlson, FOX News
December 2019 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Has Putin ever called me a racist? Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him?”
Tucker Carlson, FOX News
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“I gotta be honest with you, I don’t really care what happens to Ukraine one way or the other.”
J.D. Vance, US Senate Candidate
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Every American who wants to know what’s *actually* going on in Russia and Ukraine, read this transcript of Putin’s address…WE are at fault.”
Candace Owens, Daily Wire
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“President Zelensky is a very bad character who is working with globalists against the interests of his own people.”
Candace Owens, Daily Wire
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“No Republican should vote for any money for Ukraine. $0 for Ukraine.”
Steve Bannon
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Every member of Conservative Inc. that backs this Ukraine war is a simp.”
Steve Bannon
July 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Ukraine is a DC distraction & scam.”
Joe Kent, Congressional Candidate
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“The Soviet Union back before Russia when it broke up contained all of Ukraine including Crimea. The country itself is not really a country.”
Peter Navarro, Former Trump WH Advisor
December 2021 · Quote Source
TWEET
“I’m more concerned with the US-Mexico border than the Russia-Ukraine border. Not sorry.”
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL)
January 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Ukraine is not our ally. Russia is not our enemy. We need to address our crippling debt, inflation and immigration problems. None of this is Putin’s fault.”
Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ)
May 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“I have major concerns about a compromised president of the United States who is sending incredible support to a less-than-forthright president of the Ukraine.”
Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-MT)
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Why does Joe Biden care more about Ukraine’s borders than America’s borders? Does it have anything to do with ‘10% for the Big Guy?’”
Rep. Mary Miller (R-IL)
January 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“It feels as if Putin is going into places that want him. They have voted overwhelmingly to be part of it. It is a family dispute that we shouldn’t get in the midst of, that’s for certain.”
Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA
February 2022 · Quote Source
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“We had kind of a really pathetic display from the Ukrainian President Zelenskyy.”
Laura Ingraham, FOX News
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Putin–unlike someone else we know–LOVES his country & FIGHTS for its interests”
Dinesh D’Souza
September 2016 · Quote Source
TWEET
“The ethnic Russians in Ukraine are like our Jan. 6 protesters and the deep state wants to crush them for the same reason they want to crush the Jan. 6ers.”
Stew Peters, Stew Peters Show
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“[Putin is] a very strong leader. He’s been in charge for a long time. And he’s not going to put up with the nonsense he’s seeing in Europe.”
Mike Flynn, former Trump National Security Advisor
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“Zelensky is a globalist puppet for Soros and the Clintons.”
State Sen. Wendy Rogers (R-AZ)
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“I wish Putin was president of America.”
Nick Fuentes, America First Political Action Conference
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“The media is complicit in this war, and everyone that’s propping up Ukraine…these people are the ones that are gonna have the blood on their hands.”
Jarome Bell, Congressional Candidate
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“There are in fact bio labs [in Ukraine] funded by our tax dollars…Putin is acting defensively.”
Roger Stone
March 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“So far, Putin hasn’t killed as many people as the Clintons.”
Jesse Kelly, Jesse Kelly Show
February 2022 · Quote Source
TWEET
“I’m kind of confused why they’re telling us to stand with Ukraine when it seems that everybody affiliated or standing with Ukraine is either transgender, a Satanist, or a straight up Nazi.”
Lauren Witzke, Former US Senate Candidate
March 2022 · Quote Source
They will not let the US Ealection happen. They’re going to provoke Russia in some way that causes them to do something. It will force our hand and we’ll be at war before Elections.
They have to find a way to get the American People behind this war. Putin ain’t just backing down or giving up. It’s going to get ugly, folks.
They have to find a way to get the American People behind this war. Putin ain’t just backing down or giving up. It’s going to get ugly, folks.
Just an alternate analysis for all the neocon nut huggers on the board. Once again I just want this whole thing over with one way or the other. Did we ever get an outcome on the supposed vote of the citizens of the occupied territories on whether they wanted to join Russia or not?
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Published October 12, 2022 at 6:45am
Not to beat a dead horse, but most of the world has a delusional image in their head of the war in Ukraine. As I have written previously, much of the fault lies with Hollywood, which through a plethora of movies has conditioned the masses to think of war as the conquest of critical territory. But that is a misleading image when it comes to Ukraine. Yes, there are strategically important pieces of territory that must be captured or defended, but there also are vast swaths of plains (we call them prairies here in the United States) that are tactically difficult to control and, if you succeed in capturing an area of land, you create a problem of how to defend it.
Please take a look at the following video with this in mind. Although the video shows how Russia’s Wagner Group is building defensive lines, please focus on the general landscape rather than the work of the engineers:
See video on TGP
Russia has a decisive advantage over Ukraine when it comes to battling for this territory, even though it ceded some of it a few weeks ago to advancing Ukrainian troops. Why? Because Russia’s air force is still intact and can be used to attack massed Ukrainian units. Ukraine’s air capability has been eviscerated. Russia also enjoys a lopsided advantage in tanks. In case you have any doubts, the video above shows quintessential tank country.
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Ukraine does not have a comparable capability to counter the Russian attacks. Moreover, the Russian missile barrage has highlighted the weakness, if not absence, of Ukraine’s anti-missile defense system. It is neither a mistake nor a coincidence that Russia’s strikes in major Ukrainian cities–more than 100 missiles– caused very few human casualties, especially on the civilian side of the ledger. Despite Ukrainian claims that Russia’s strikes killed civilians, the evidence suggests otherwise–Ukraine’s own anti-missile system failed to intercept the Russian targets and then fell to earth and hit apartments and schools.
What is the United States and NATO going to do? Immediately deploy the Iron Dome anti-missile system? Unfortunately, these Western anti-missile systems are not designed to defeat the missiles Russia is launching. Then there is the logistics problem–i.e., getting those systems deployed and training personnel to operate them. This will take weeks, if not months. And Ukraine does not have the luxury of time in this regard. Making matters worse, the United States and NATO do not have the reserves to quickly resupply Ukraine:
I believe that the events during the next five weeks will create a crisis within NATO and the United States. If Russia seizes the initiative and moves in force against Ukrainian units, NATO will not be in a position to rescue Ukraine from defeat on the battlefield. Any further intervention by NATO will make it, in the eyes of the Russians, a legitimate military target.
Compounding the military challenges confronting the United States and NATO, there are the economic and political headwinds. Joe Biden is likely to lose control of the House of Representatives and the Senate. If this happens, he will no longer have a congressional ally eager to keep shoveling money and weapons into Ukraine. The economic conditions throughout Europe of inflation and shuttering businesses will fuel more domestic unrest and diminish enthusiasm for keeping Ukraine afloat.
When you take all of these factors into consideration, the conclusion is clear–Russia enjoys a strategic and tactical initiative that will be difficult to surmount. Conversely, NATO is in trouble.
There is No Single War In Ukraine and NATO Is In Trouble | The Gateway Pundit | by Larry Johnson
Not to beat a dead horse, but most of the world has a delusional image in their head of the war in Ukraine.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
There is No Single War In Ukraine and NATO Is In Trouble
By Larry JohnsonPublished October 12, 2022 at 6:45am
Not to beat a dead horse, but most of the world has a delusional image in their head of the war in Ukraine. As I have written previously, much of the fault lies with Hollywood, which through a plethora of movies has conditioned the masses to think of war as the conquest of critical territory. But that is a misleading image when it comes to Ukraine. Yes, there are strategically important pieces of territory that must be captured or defended, but there also are vast swaths of plains (we call them prairies here in the United States) that are tactically difficult to control and, if you succeed in capturing an area of land, you create a problem of how to defend it.
Please take a look at the following video with this in mind. Although the video shows how Russia’s Wagner Group is building defensive lines, please focus on the general landscape rather than the work of the engineers:
See video on TGP
Russia has a decisive advantage over Ukraine when it comes to battling for this territory, even though it ceded some of it a few weeks ago to advancing Ukrainian troops. Why? Because Russia’s air force is still intact and can be used to attack massed Ukrainian units. Ukraine’s air capability has been eviscerated. Russia also enjoys a lopsided advantage in tanks. In case you have any doubts, the video above shows quintessential tank country.
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Tank battles on rolling plains is great grist for a Hollywood blockbuster, but the real peril for Ukraine has been on display over the last two days–Russia’s hypersonic missiles, cruise missiles and air launched rockets mangling power nodes and military headquarters throughout Ukraine. The Russian strikes in the last two days significantly degraded Ukraine’s ability to supply electricity and critical heat to its major cities. The attacks also are disrupting Ukraine’s cell phone network and its ability to move troops and equipment from the west to the frontlines in the east.At the beginning of its full-scale invasion in Feb., Russia had around 3,330 operational tanks (2,840 with the ground forces, 330 with its naval infantry, and 160 with its airborne forces), according to the Military Balance 2021 database. . . .
However, Russia still has some 2,000 battle-ready tanks at hand, as well as an enormous amount in storage.
The Military Balance 2021 database says Russian storage facilities have around 10,200 tanks, including various T-72s, 3,000 T-80s, and 200 T-90s.
How many tanks does Russia really have? - Ukraine Today .org
September 1, 2022 2:00 pmby Illia Ponomarenko Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine is already going down in history as the biggest tank slaughter Europe has seen since World War II. The Kremlin’s reckless and unsuccessful blitzkrieg on Kyiv resulted in the loss of over 1,000 tanks – within...ukrainetoday.org
Ukraine does not have a comparable capability to counter the Russian attacks. Moreover, the Russian missile barrage has highlighted the weakness, if not absence, of Ukraine’s anti-missile defense system. It is neither a mistake nor a coincidence that Russia’s strikes in major Ukrainian cities–more than 100 missiles– caused very few human casualties, especially on the civilian side of the ledger. Despite Ukrainian claims that Russia’s strikes killed civilians, the evidence suggests otherwise–Ukraine’s own anti-missile system failed to intercept the Russian targets and then fell to earth and hit apartments and schools.
What is the United States and NATO going to do? Immediately deploy the Iron Dome anti-missile system? Unfortunately, these Western anti-missile systems are not designed to defeat the missiles Russia is launching. Then there is the logistics problem–i.e., getting those systems deployed and training personnel to operate them. This will take weeks, if not months. And Ukraine does not have the luxury of time in this regard. Making matters worse, the United States and NATO do not have the reserves to quickly resupply Ukraine:
Then there is the nightmare scenario for Ukraine and NATO of Russia invoking the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and Russia asking Belarus to join the fray. Russian and Belarusian troops already are gathering on Ukraine’s northern border. Whether this is a bluff by Russia or genuine preparation for opening a new front in the north, the massing of forces requires Ukraine to deploy already depleted forces to the northern border. This will weaken Ukraine’s ability to hold off a Russian offensive in Kherson and Zaporhyzhia.The United States will soon be unable to supply Ukraine, as it has up to now, with the sophisticated equipment essential for its defense against Russia as its reserves are reaching their limits, especially in terms of ammunition. . . .
But US stockpiles of certain equipment are “reaching the minimum levels necessary for war and training plans” and getting weapons stockpiles back to pre-invasion levels could take years, Mark Cancian wrote in a recent analysis. of the Center for Strategic and International Studies.
Washington is “learning lessons” from the conflict about ammunition needs in a very powerful war, and that it is “much larger” than expected, said a US military official who requested anonymity.
I believe that the events during the next five weeks will create a crisis within NATO and the United States. If Russia seizes the initiative and moves in force against Ukrainian units, NATO will not be in a position to rescue Ukraine from defeat on the battlefield. Any further intervention by NATO will make it, in the eyes of the Russians, a legitimate military target.
Compounding the military challenges confronting the United States and NATO, there are the economic and political headwinds. Joe Biden is likely to lose control of the House of Representatives and the Senate. If this happens, he will no longer have a congressional ally eager to keep shoveling money and weapons into Ukraine. The economic conditions throughout Europe of inflation and shuttering businesses will fuel more domestic unrest and diminish enthusiasm for keeping Ukraine afloat.
When you take all of these factors into consideration, the conclusion is clear–Russia enjoys a strategic and tactical initiative that will be difficult to surmount. Conversely, NATO is in trouble.
Maybe this has been covered on other networks or I missed it, but why is there hardly any discussion of trying to take Putin out? Obviously very very difficult to do and would involve going into Russia, but wouldn’t that solve this whole thing?
In fact if I recall someone did try to poison him and his taste tester got sick from the food or something along those lines
In fact if I recall someone did try to poison him and his taste tester got sick from the food or something along those lines
i could see the current occupying regime try something drastic to get us in a war footing. They are desperate and insane. Thats a bad combination.
Thats a pipe dream. Putin is KGB and he knows how all of this stuff works.
Not sure if this will work, since WSJ is a pay site. Here's a well-written piece on the conflict, and why The Ukraine has caused so many issues for Russia's huge military force....
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-uk...mbering-military-11665584517?mod=hp_lead_pos5
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-uk...mbering-military-11665584517?mod=hp_lead_pos5
It’s terrifying that you have been brainwashed to accept the Russian invasion of another country.Just an alternate analysis for all the neocon nut huggers on the board. Once again I just want this whole thing over with one way or the other. Did we ever get an outcome on the supposed vote of the citizens of the occupied territories on whether they wanted to join Russia or not?
There is No Single War In Ukraine and NATO Is In Trouble | The Gateway Pundit | by Larry Johnson
Not to beat a dead horse, but most of the world has a delusional image in their head of the war in Ukraine.
There is No Single War In Ukraine and NATO Is In Trouble
By Larry Johnson
Published October 12, 2022 at 6:45am
Not to beat a dead horse, but most of the world has a delusional image in their head of the war in Ukraine. As I have written previously, much of the fault lies with Hollywood, which through a plethora of movies has conditioned the masses to think of war as the conquest of critical territory. But that is a misleading image when it comes to Ukraine. Yes, there are strategically important pieces of territory that must be captured or defended, but there also are vast swaths of plains (we call them prairies here in the United States) that are tactically difficult to control and, if you succeed in capturing an area of land, you create a problem of how to defend it.
Please take a look at the following video with this in mind. Although the video shows how Russia’s Wagner Group is building defensive lines, please focus on the general landscape rather than the work of the engineers:
See video on TGP
Russia has a decisive advantage over Ukraine when it comes to battling for this territory, even though it ceded some of it a few weeks ago to advancing Ukrainian troops. Why? Because Russia’s air force is still intact and can be used to attack massed Ukrainian units. Ukraine’s air capability has been eviscerated. Russia also enjoys a lopsided advantage in tanks. In case you have any doubts, the video above shows quintessential tank country.
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Tank battles on rolling plains is great grist for a Hollywood blockbuster, but the real peril for Ukraine has been on display over the last two days–Russia’s hypersonic missiles, cruise missiles and air launched rockets mangling power nodes and military headquarters throughout Ukraine. The Russian strikes in the last two days significantly degraded Ukraine’s ability to supply electricity and critical heat to its major cities. The attacks also are disrupting Ukraine’s cell phone network and its ability to move troops and equipment from the west to the frontlines in the east.
Ukraine does not have a comparable capability to counter the Russian attacks. Moreover, the Russian missile barrage has highlighted the weakness, if not absence, of Ukraine’s anti-missile defense system. It is neither a mistake nor a coincidence that Russia’s strikes in major Ukrainian cities–more than 100 missiles– caused very few human casualties, especially on the civilian side of the ledger. Despite Ukrainian claims that Russia’s strikes killed civilians, the evidence suggests otherwise–Ukraine’s own anti-missile system failed to intercept the Russian targets and then fell to earth and hit apartments and schools.
What is the United States and NATO going to do? Immediately deploy the Iron Dome anti-missile system? Unfortunately, these Western anti-missile systems are not designed to defeat the missiles Russia is launching. Then there is the logistics problem–i.e., getting those systems deployed and training personnel to operate them. This will take weeks, if not months. And Ukraine does not have the luxury of time in this regard. Making matters worse, the United States and NATO do not have the reserves to quickly resupply Ukraine:
Then there is the nightmare scenario for Ukraine and NATO of Russia invoking the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) and Russia asking Belarus to join the fray. Russian and Belarusian troops already are gathering on Ukraine’s northern border. Whether this is a bluff by Russia or genuine preparation for opening a new front in the north, the massing of forces requires Ukraine to deploy already depleted forces to the northern border. This will weaken Ukraine’s ability to hold off a Russian offensive in Kherson and Zaporhyzhia.
I believe that the events during the next five weeks will create a crisis within NATO and the United States. If Russia seizes the initiative and moves in force against Ukrainian units, NATO will not be in a position to rescue Ukraine from defeat on the battlefield. Any further intervention by NATO will make it, in the eyes of the Russians, a legitimate military target.
Compounding the military challenges confronting the United States and NATO, there are the economic and political headwinds. Joe Biden is likely to lose control of the House of Representatives and the Senate. If this happens, he will no longer have a congressional ally eager to keep shoveling money and weapons into Ukraine. The economic conditions throughout Europe of inflation and shuttering businesses will fuel more domestic unrest and diminish enthusiasm for keeping Ukraine afloat.
When you take all of these factors into consideration, the conclusion is clear–Russia enjoys a strategic and tactical initiative that will be difficult to surmount. Conversely, NATO is in trouble.
It's terrifying to me that adult men cannot use logic and form their own opinion. Larry Johnson is American.
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I always use logic and facts and form my own opinion. You might be surprised to know that I read NewsMax and FoxNews (and even inforwars), in addition to CNN, the NYT, WSJ. I like to hear both sides. Infowars and newsmax are crazy, but I like learning more about their messaging and how it convinces people to do things that I think are crazy, like storm the capital.
Just read through that Larry Johnson bio you linked. He has had one hell of a career being about as wrong as you can be about everything. It’s actually remarkable how wrong he is.
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Good for you. We both form our own opinions. When I linked the article I noted that it was an alternate analysis on what's going on so in that vein you are welcome for the additional info that I provided.
Man, you are one easily influenced SOB
Tag me when you learn to stop rambling manically in your head and have a clear and concise point to make. FFS
Lol he is reporting facts and quoting things like this from the MAGA/ America First crowd and he is the one to be easily influenced???? 😂
“I wish Putin was president of America.”
Nick Fuentes, America First Political Action Conference
February 2022 ·
Dude, this thread has done the impossible, it has united people from all over the political spectrum. Your arrogance knows no bounds. You think you and your numbnuts are somehow “enlightened” and know better and the rest of the world is wrong. All those European countries are wrong. India is giving Russian shit. China is giving them shit. The whole world (minus Belarus 😂) is against what is happening there and you MAGAs put your fingers in your ears singing “la la la I don’t want to hear anything la la la” and look down on us.
Karma is a bitch dude. Look at your idol Alex Jones. It took a few years but his lies and conspiracy theories are catching up to him. A billion dollars in damages for false information and lies. A slew of MAGA operators are next for their roles in the “big lie”. Facts do matter. Actions do matter. You live in an alternate reality whose pillars are coming down.
it's because he's dumb. he doesn't want to come to terms with the fact he's an idiot who was duped.
Putin isn’t a fvcking terrorists lmao.
really? The guy is currently firing missiles into residential buildings where children are sleeping. He is purposefully targeting civilians.
Serious question... do you just get drunk and fire off angry responses on this site? I've yet to see one response from you that has anything of value.
It's cool if this is how you release your anger. At least you aren't hurting anyone. I sure don't lose sleep over something a rando says on a message board.
Another alternate analysis gem for entertainment purposes only from Larry Johnson. Now do not get triggered if it disagrees with your world view.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Published October 13, 2022 at 6:45am
As someone who worked first hand on the CIA’s Afghanistan propaganda campaign in 1985-86, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the scale and scope of the current propaganda campaign intended to whip up support in the West for Ukraine and galvanize international outrage against Russia–it is titanic and it is out of control.
Where to start? How about the Kerch Bridge fiasco? Initially, the blast on the west bound span of the bridge was celebrated wildly as a massive triumph for Ukraine and a bitter defeat for Russia. The Associated Press account is representative of the media reactions:
Any lingering doubt that this bridge bombing was the handiwork of the Ukrainians was erased when Kiev released the mock up of a stamp that will be issued in November celebrating the victory over the Russians:
There is no government in the world that can come up with artwork and get bureaucratic approval to commemorate a terrorist attack in the short amount of time that Ukraine allegedly worked on this. This was a flamboyant gesture of questionable intelligence–sort of like spiking a football and hitting yourself in the stones:
So today, Ukraine is trying to down play its responsibility for the failed mission to take out the Kerch Bridge (yes, failed, because traffic is till flowing over the bridge) and some of Kiev’s more mentally challenged supporters insisted that this was a Russian FSB op. I received an email from one of these clowns, a Mr. Lane, who wrote:
I do believe that Russian intelligence had some inkling of this plot and the people involved before the blast took place. Why? Because of how quickly the FSB began rounding up alleged conspirators.
But the Kerch Bridge fiasco appears to be a tiny white lie compared to the monstrous prevarication the Biden Administration unleashed today with its publication of its 2022 National Security Strategy. Check out this whopper (see page 25):
The Biden folks clearly do not understand the concept of irony. On the very day that the Biden Administration releases its National Security Strategy and accuses Russia of “brazenly” interfering in U.S. politics, U.S. prosecutor John Durham was grilling FBI Agents in Federal Court and getting them to admit that the Steele Dossier, which was one of the predicates for investigating Donald Trump for collaborating with Russia to steal the 2016 election, was a lie. FBI Agent Auten conceded under questioning that there was zero corroboration for the outlandish claims in the Steele Dossier:
The penultimate sentence in the opening paragraph on Russia is further evidence of the Biden Adminstration’s complete lack of self awareness:
The flood of propaganda and disinformation about Russia and what is going on in Ukraine is not likely to abate in the near term. In fact, Biden and his team appear to be doubling down on spreading outlandish falsehoods. Here is Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s latest ravings:
Can The Flood of Lies About Ukraine and Russia Be Stopped? | The Gateway Pundit | by Larry Johnson
As someone who worked first hand on the CIA’s Afghanistan propaganda campaign in 1985-86, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the scale and scope of the current propaganda campaign intended to whip up support in the West for Ukraine and galvanize international outrage against Russia–it is...
www.thegatewaypundit.com
Can The Flood of Lies About Ukraine and Russia Be Stopped?
By Larry JohnsonPublished October 13, 2022 at 6:45am
As someone who worked first hand on the CIA’s Afghanistan propaganda campaign in 1985-86, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the scale and scope of the current propaganda campaign intended to whip up support in the West for Ukraine and galvanize international outrage against Russia–it is titanic and it is out of control.
Where to start? How about the Kerch Bridge fiasco? Initially, the blast on the west bound span of the bridge was celebrated wildly as a massive triumph for Ukraine and a bitter defeat for Russia. The Associated Press account is representative of the media reactions:
TRENDING: MUST WATCH: AOC Gets Absolutely Chewed Out By Former Supporters for Supporting Nuclear War and Funding Ukrainian Nazis (VIDEO)An explosion Saturday caused the partial collapse of a bridge linking the Crimean Peninsula with Russia, damaging an important supply artery for the Kremlin’s faltering war effort in southern Ukraine and hitting a towering symbol of Russian power in the region.
Nobody immediately claimed responsibility for the blast, which killed three people. The speaker of the Russian-backed regional parliament in Crimea accused Ukraine, but Moscow didn’t apportion blame. Ukrainian officials have repeatedly threatened to strike the bridge, and some lauded the destruction on Saturday. But Kyiv stopped short of claiming responsibility.
Blast on bridge to Crimea hurts Russian supply lines, pride
Russian President Vladimir Putin is moving to tighten security along a key bridge to Crimea after an explosion caused part of the bridge to collapse.apnews.com
Any lingering doubt that this bridge bombing was the handiwork of the Ukrainians was erased when Kiev released the mock up of a stamp that will be issued in November celebrating the victory over the Russians:
There is no government in the world that can come up with artwork and get bureaucratic approval to commemorate a terrorist attack in the short amount of time that Ukraine allegedly worked on this. This was a flamboyant gesture of questionable intelligence–sort of like spiking a football and hitting yourself in the stones:
So today, Ukraine is trying to down play its responsibility for the failed mission to take out the Kerch Bridge (yes, failed, because traffic is till flowing over the bridge) and some of Kiev’s more mentally challenged supporters insisted that this was a Russian FSB op. I received an email from one of these clowns, a Mr. Lane, who wrote:
Got it? Those Russians are so damn clever and so powerful that they tricked the Ukrainians into making a stamp with the image of two explosions on the Kerch Bridge. Russia can do anything, it seems, when the West wants to paint Moscow as a 21st Century Goliath.I am% Reagan “we win they lose” and losing they are. Bigly. The Ukraines had nothing to do with the bridge by the way, that was total FSB work.
I do believe that Russian intelligence had some inkling of this plot and the people involved before the blast took place. Why? Because of how quickly the FSB began rounding up alleged conspirators.
But the Kerch Bridge fiasco appears to be a tiny white lie compared to the monstrous prevarication the Biden Administration unleashed today with its publication of its 2022 National Security Strategy. Check out this whopper (see page 25):
A lot of lies packed into this paragraph. For starters, it looks like the Biden team is engaged in psychological projection when it declares the Russia is pursuing “an imperialist foreign policy” intent on “overturning key elements of the international order.” What? Russia did not “invade” the Donbas in 2014. Ukraine did that. Russia did not unilaterally intervene in Syria, it was asked to provide military aid. It is the United States that violated the supposedly sacrosanct international order by helping engineer the coup that ousted the democratically elected President of Ukraine in 2014, overthrew the regime of Muammar Qaddafi and supplied weapons and training to radical Islamists in Syria that tried to oust Syrian President Assad. Pot calling Kettle Black anyone?
The Biden folks clearly do not understand the concept of irony. On the very day that the Biden Administration releases its National Security Strategy and accuses Russia of “brazenly” interfering in U.S. politics, U.S. prosecutor John Durham was grilling FBI Agents in Federal Court and getting them to admit that the Steele Dossier, which was one of the predicates for investigating Donald Trump for collaborating with Russia to steal the 2016 election, was a lie. FBI Agent Auten conceded under questioning that there was zero corroboration for the outlandish claims in the Steele Dossier:
Simply put, the unfounded claim that Trump was colluding with Russia was a total sham. A lie. A gargantuan lie. But this fact did not stop the Biden folks from trying to keep that turd afloat in the punch bowl.
The penultimate sentence in the opening paragraph on Russia is further evidence of the Biden Adminstration’s complete lack of self awareness:
This outlandish statement from the Administration that has locked up hundreds of protestors for trespassing, that is using the FBI to arrest and harass political opponents and who routinely pressures social media to quash anyone daring to challenge failed administration policies. Alex Berenson is but one glaring example of this abuse. His attempts to report on the failings of the Covid vaccines were quashed by Twitter with the full encouragement of the U.S. Government. Yet, Biden wants the American public to buy into the lie that the biggest threat to their freedom comes from Russia when it is his own government and policies that are stripping away Constitutionally protected rights.
The flood of propaganda and disinformation about Russia and what is going on in Ukraine is not likely to abate in the near term. In fact, Biden and his team appear to be doubling down on spreading outlandish falsehoods. Here is Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s latest ravings:
Does Austin consider Ukraine’s failure to stop Russia’s missile bombardment of the last two days an “extraordinary gain” by the Ukrainians? As long as this kind of delusion infests Western leaders, the slaughter of Ukrainians will continue. If you encounter someone who insists that lies like these cause no lasting harm, you should arrange a trip for that person to the graveyards filling up throughout Ukraine.US secretary of defence Lloyd Austin on Wednesday hailed Ukraine’s “extraordinary gains on the battlefield”, which he attributed in part to “vital” support from Nato allies, including billions of dollars in military aid, along with humanitarian and financial assistance.
“Despite Putin’s new assaults, Ukrainian forces have changed the dynamics of this war,” Mr Austin said at a two-day meeting of Nato defence ministers at the alliance’s headquarters in Brussels.
“They’ve liberated hundreds of towns from Russian occupation. They’ve retaken thousands of square kilometres of their land,” said Mr Austin, who headed a US-led Ukraine defence contact group meeting.
Lloyd Austin hails Nato-supported military gains in Ukraine | The National
US Secretary of Defence told allies dynamics of conflict have changedwww.thenationalnews.com
Another alternate analysis gem for entertainment purposes only from Larry Johnson. Now do not get triggered if it disagrees with your world view.
Can The Flood of Lies About Ukraine and Russia Be Stopped? | The Gateway Pundit | by Larry Johnson
As someone who worked first hand on the CIA’s Afghanistan propaganda campaign in 1985-86, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the scale and scope of the current propaganda campaign intended to whip up support in the West for Ukraine and galvanize international outrage against Russia–it is...
Can The Flood of Lies About Ukraine and Russia Be Stopped?
By Larry Johnson
Published October 13, 2022 at 6:45am
As someone who worked first hand on the CIA’s Afghanistan propaganda campaign in 1985-86, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on the scale and scope of the current propaganda campaign intended to whip up support in the West for Ukraine and galvanize international outrage against Russia–it is titanic and it is out of control.
Where to start? How about the Kerch Bridge fiasco? Initially, the blast on the west bound span of the bridge was celebrated wildly as a massive triumph for Ukraine and a bitter defeat for Russia. The Associated Press account is representative of the media reactions:
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Any lingering doubt that this bridge bombing was the handiwork of the Ukrainians was erased when Kiev released the mock up of a stamp that will be issued in November celebrating the victory over the Russians:
There is no government in the world that can come up with artwork and get bureaucratic approval to commemorate a terrorist attack in the short amount of time that Ukraine allegedly worked on this. This was a flamboyant gesture of questionable intelligence–sort of like spiking a football and hitting yourself in the stones:
So today, Ukraine is trying to down play its responsibility for the failed mission to take out the Kerch Bridge (yes, failed, because traffic is till flowing over the bridge) and some of Kiev’s more mentally challenged supporters insisted that this was a Russian FSB op. I received an email from one of these clowns, a Mr. Lane, who wrote:
Got it? Those Russians are so damn clever and so powerful that they tricked the Ukrainians into making a stamp with the image of two explosions on the Kerch Bridge. Russia can do anything, it seems, when the West wants to paint Moscow as a 21st Century Goliath.
I do believe that Russian intelligence had some inkling of this plot and the people involved before the blast took place. Why? Because of how quickly the FSB began rounding up alleged conspirators.
But the Kerch Bridge fiasco appears to be a tiny white lie compared to the monstrous prevarication the Biden Administration unleashed today with its publication of its 2022 National Security Strategy. Check out this whopper (see page 25):
A lot of lies packed into this paragraph. For starters, it looks like the Biden team is engaged in psychological projection when it declares the Russia is pursuing “an imperialist foreign policy” intent on “overturning key elements of the international order.” What? Russia did not “invade” the Donbas in 2014. Ukraine did that. Russia did not unilaterally intervene in Syria, it was asked to provide military aid. It is the United States that violated the supposedly sacrosanct international order by helping engineer the coup that ousted the democratically elected President of Ukraine in 2014, overthrew the regime of Muammar Qaddafi and supplied weapons and training to radical Islamists in Syria that tried to oust Syrian President Assad. Pot calling Kettle Black anyone?
The Biden folks clearly do not understand the concept of irony. On the very day that the Biden Administration releases its National Security Strategy and accuses Russia of “brazenly” interfering in U.S. politics, U.S. prosecutor John Durham was grilling FBI Agents in Federal Court and getting them to admit that the Steele Dossier, which was one of the predicates for investigating Donald Trump for collaborating with Russia to steal the 2016 election, was a lie. FBI Agent Auten conceded under questioning that there was zero corroboration for the outlandish claims in the Steele Dossier:
Simply put, the unfounded claim that Trump was colluding with Russia was a total sham. A lie. A gargantuan lie. But this fact did not stop the Biden folks from trying to keep that turd afloat in the punch bowl.
The penultimate sentence in the opening paragraph on Russia is further evidence of the Biden Adminstration’s complete lack of self awareness:
This outlandish statement from the Administration that has locked up hundreds of protestors for trespassing, that is using the FBI to arrest and harass political opponents and who routinely pressures social media to quash anyone daring to challenge failed administration policies. Alex Berenson is but one glaring example of this abuse. His attempts to report on the failings of the Covid vaccines were quashed by Twitter with the full encouragement of the U.S. Government. Yet, Biden wants the American public to buy into the lie that the biggest threat to their freedom comes from Russia when it is his own government and policies that are stripping away Constitutionally protected rights.
The flood of propaganda and disinformation about Russia and what is going on in Ukraine is not likely to abate in the near term. In fact, Biden and his team appear to be doubling down on spreading outlandish falsehoods. Here is Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin’s latest ravings:
Does Austin consider Ukraine’s failure to stop Russia’s missile bombardment of the last two days an “extraordinary gain” by the Ukrainians? As long as this kind of delusion infests Western leaders, the slaughter of Ukrainians will continue. If you encounter someone who insists that lies like these cause no lasting harm, you should arrange a trip for that person to the graveyards filling up throughout Ukraine.
Serious question - prior to you posting his link, I had never heard of Larry Johnson. But the link you posted showed him as someone who has an absolutely horrible track record in judgement. Why would you follow someone who has been so spectacularly wrong?
It reminds me of a journalist that once said, if someone says it’s raining, your job isn’t to find two people with different perspectives on whether it’s raining (one saying he thinks it is, the other saying it isn’t), but to open the goddam window and find out.
Everyone should be looking for facts and truth, not trying to legitimize self-serving opinions. There will always be nutjobs out there with crazy opinions. Look at the flat earthers… should we say they are entitled to their legitimate perspective and give credence to their viewpoints? Of course not, the objective reality takes precedence.
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Lot of MAGA people rooting for Putin to get a win purely because they can't bring themselves to support President Biden working against a geopolitical enemy. Patriotism and America First my ass. It's all Trump first to you retards
It is wiki and thats not neutral but it provides some background on him. I read what he says and then form my own opinions. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle on this issue related to Ukraine and Russia.
This guy has a background and some of what he is saying makes a lot of sense to me, so I think its worth taking into consideration personally.
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Funny way of saying, he tells me what I want to hear, so I choose to believe him.
Not really but we all have an opinion. I am consuming all the pro ukraine information too. You cant really preach at me though bro based on your viewpoints.
I just don’t give a shit about Ukraine or Russia.
I care about #America First.
I don’t want any, not even one, of our soldiers dying for either one of those corrupt ass countries.
I don’t support spending billions in Ukraine, when we have multiple problems in our own country that need addressing and could use that money.
let Russia and Ukraine duke that shit out and kill each other. Why do we ****ing care?
this is going to come back and bite us in the ass.
I care about #America First.
I don’t want any, not even one, of our soldiers dying for either one of those corrupt ass countries.
I don’t support spending billions in Ukraine, when we have multiple problems in our own country that need addressing and could use that money.
let Russia and Ukraine duke that shit out and kill each other. Why do we ****ing care?
this is going to come back and bite us in the ass.
I understand where you are coming from and respect it. I applaud a healthy dose of skepticism. Those in power have proven time and time again they weren't necessarily looking out for the rest of us. What I am saying is that there should be an "inquiring mind" approach to understanding what is going on. And sometimes we find out things we don't like (get proven wrong, etc.). For a lot of people, they use a "reinforcement" or "alignment" approach, they will believe perspectives that reinforce their own. That is not being a skeptic, that is simply reinforcing potential biases.
Lots of people who were terrified to walk around without a face diaper are all of a sudden brushing off the possibility of a nuclear war as nothing to be worried about.
wild times
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I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time. Trump supporters maybe not
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anon_5e8aassgcbjz1
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Yep, every time Putin threatens to use nukes, let’s concede everything. Aw shucks guys, we just can’t risk it.
Well, his background is pretty awful. 4 years in the IC doesn't really mean much.
He's best known for spreading a hoax against Michelle Obama. But among his other greatest hits are:
- 2 months before 9/11 he penned an op-ed saying UBL wasn't a threat and that terrorism was not the biggest security challenge.
- He accused John Kerry of war crimes and said he raped a Vietnamese woman
- He spread a hoax that the British had wiretapped Trump
- He claims that Ukraine is run by Neo-Nazi's who are propped up by the US govt (funny cuz Zelensky is jewish).
- He claims that Russia is only hitting NATO bases.
- He claims Putin is a white nationalist hero, similar to Trump (This is actually factual as stated by hammer dog yesterday, but nonetheless reprehensible.)
Let me ask you this... if there was a sports analyst who was consistently spectacularly wrong, would you still listen to him?
You just regurgitated the wiki page and I already read it. That's a subjective write up on him.
