Perry Noble
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I've seen it in person. If you don't attend on a regular basis and don't read the Bible then you really want get his sarcasm.
Yes Coach Swinney does attend and he gives. Nuk wanted to be baptized by Perry at practice. If you had any idea of all the lives that have been changed at Newspring for the better you might have a different attitude.
Will everyone at Newspring go to Heaven? No. Newspring is trying to reach people who would normally feel uncomfortable in a traditional church setting.
Yes Coach Swinney does attend and he gives. Nuk wanted to be baptized by Perry at practice. If you had any idea of all the lives that have been changed at Newspring for the better you might have a different attitude.
Will everyone at Newspring go to Heaven? No. Newspring is trying to reach people who would normally feel uncomfortable in a traditional church setting.
What if he did? It wouldn't be the first time the word Hell was spoken in a church.
You do realize the Bible doesn't state anything about what music should be used at church? The music was used to drive home the point if you aren't saved then your on the highway to hell.
Again Newspring focus is teenagers and getting them saved! They aren't focusing on 60 year olds and trying to meet their needs.
If you don't read the Bible and study it then this all will seem strange to you. Jesus didn't follow the normal church traditions of the day, and don't take that mean Perry is equal to Jesus. He's no different than any man he is a sinner in the eyes of God. Jesus allowed a former prostitute to wash his feet, dry them with her hair and rub oil on them. That same woman would not have been welcome in any church in that day and time. Newspring is trying to remove the barriers of a traditional church so that those who would feel unwelcome in a traditional church will feel welcome. If you don't understand that then I'm sorry.
You do realize the Bible doesn't state anything about what music should be used at church? The music was used to drive home the point if you aren't saved then your on the highway to hell.
Again Newspring focus is teenagers and getting them saved! They aren't focusing on 60 year olds and trying to meet their needs.
If you don't read the Bible and study it then this all will seem strange to you. Jesus didn't follow the normal church traditions of the day, and don't take that mean Perry is equal to Jesus. He's no different than any man he is a sinner in the eyes of God. Jesus allowed a former prostitute to wash his feet, dry them with her hair and rub oil on them. That same woman would not have been welcome in any church in that day and time. Newspring is trying to remove the barriers of a traditional church so that those who would feel unwelcome in a traditional church will feel welcome. If you don't understand that then I'm sorry.
It seems like I've rustled your jimmies. I've read the bible front to back and attend church 25-30 time a year, I like the traditional service, where my preacher preaches from the good book and doesn't ask us to give 10%.
Pastor Steve (my pastor) also went to seminary and does wonderful wedding and funeral eulogies. It's comforting when you lose a loved one that Pastor has some great stories and whatnot about your family member.
To each his own hoss, maybe next week Big Perry will expand his playlist to "Stairway to Heaven"
Pastor Steve (my pastor) also went to seminary and does wonderful wedding and funeral eulogies. It's comforting when you lose a loved one that Pastor has some great stories and whatnot about your family member.
To each his own hoss, maybe next week Big Perry will expand his playlist to "Stairway to Heaven"
d-tiger45 I'm sorry if I came across rustled, I really wasn't. I'm glad you have a church you feel comfortable worshipping Christ. That has been my entire point Newspring isn't for everyone.
One of my favorite pastors Preacher Bob at Concord Baptist use to always say their is a church for everyone and Concord isn't for everyone, but if you feel like it is we'd love to have you.
One thing you have to remember is Newspring was started to reach teenagers, and it grew, because teenagers started asking parents to go with them to church.
Also I've never heard Perry not preach a service that he didn't use the Bible.
Take care and have a wonderful Friday.
One of my favorite pastors Preacher Bob at Concord Baptist use to always say their is a church for everyone and Concord isn't for everyone, but if you feel like it is we'd love to have you.
One thing you have to remember is Newspring was started to reach teenagers, and it grew, because teenagers started asking parents to go with them to church.
Also I've never heard Perry not preach a service that he didn't use the Bible.
Take care and have a wonderful Friday.
If you felt I implied anything about "being a non-believe" that was not my intent. I was just making an observation about non-believers and agnostics feeling a need to comment about something they don't believe in or are not sure about. Just find it funny, but clearly entitled to do as they may.
As far as Perry Noble goes, I have not gone there so I reserve judgement, but seems to be a love / hate thing on TI as you said. I go back to the simple fact that no pastor should be between you and the Lord.
It would seem that Perry has ruffled your jimmies. I hate you've been hurt and don't know how to heal. Jesus is a healer man and you can find that in the book you read cover to cover.
I hope you find that this life isn't aboutwhat you get but about what you give.
thanks for linking that. That's the exact same clip I was talking about. He's just as shady as it gets.
He uses the Bible, he just distorts it...which doesn't surprise me considering he has no formal education on the Bible. It also amazes me how he personally attacks people, including his congregation.
That tithing rant was disturbing on so many levels. Extortion in the name of the Lord. For the record, I believe in the concept of tithing. But I do not believe that I serve a God that allows bad things to happen in my life because my tithing is not up to par. I give as I can and I think most Christians do the same. Perry would have us believe that we're flirting with disaster. What kind of man of God preaches that nonsense?
Tiger-gal, I'm not going to defend the rant, but the God we worship is a jealous God and that is Biblical. The God we worship also has shown angry on many occasions, that is also Biblical. They're also many examples in the Old Testimont of men who didn't find favor in the Lord, because of their offering. An example of this is Cain and Abl
Sorry I hit send too early. Able, God was pleased with his offering and not with Cain's and they're many more examples in the Bible of this exact thing. Tiger-gal2 I believe in the priesthood of the believer and that means is its my sole responsibility to know and interpret the Bible. When judgement day comes I just like everyone else will stand before Jesus alone so it's up to me to understand my faith.
Ron, it's obvious you don't like the man and that's fine, but why do you really care so much if others do?
On your point of formal education, there is no requirement from God to lead a church. The first church in Jerusalem was lead by James the brother of Jesus, he had no formal training. If you think Perry can be harsh read all the writings of James.
Secondly if you read the Bible you'll know in Paul's letters he clearly states that those who teach will held to a higher standard than those he don't. So if Perry is wrong he will be judge by Jesus on judgement day.
Also Ron if your a Christian you'll also know that you're instructed that you can only judge those in your church. If your in Newspring Church then it's okay for you to judge Perry if not then you aren't being Biblical. If you don't believe me then do a little reading tonight.
Have a wonderful day and go Tigers.
On your point of formal education, there is no requirement from God to lead a church. The first church in Jerusalem was lead by James the brother of Jesus, he had no formal training. If you think Perry can be harsh read all the writings of James.
Secondly if you read the Bible you'll know in Paul's letters he clearly states that those who teach will held to a higher standard than those he don't. So if Perry is wrong he will be judge by Jesus on judgement day.
Also Ron if your a Christian you'll also know that you're instructed that you can only judge those in your church. If your in Newspring Church then it's okay for you to judge Perry if not then you aren't being Biblical. If you don't believe me then do a little reading tonight.
Have a wonderful day and go Tigers.
We are not bound by the Old Testament laws anymore, but are under grace.
And the new testament never directly refers to tithing. Jesus actually criticized the Pharasees for making tithing to be more important than grace and mercy.
Regardless of how you feel on tithing (and for the record, I give to my church) , it is by no means acceptable to extort money out of people the way Perry does. I have even heard him say that for people who request prayer from him, he would check their tithing records.
When the chuch started, it was a great church, and Perry was a good minister. All that has changed. He has a huge ego, and as a result distorts the Bible as he sees fit, and no one questions him.
He even rescinded the 10 commandments, then tried to lie his way out of it, then had a half ass apology, but still didn't admit to any wrong.
1. Because I don't like seeing people being taken advantage of. I also don't like the fact that he is leading people down a wrong road, ie Jim Bakker.
2. I agree, no formal education is required. But you can tell from his preaching he does not have a great understanding of the Bible. He does have some good messages, and in actually agree with many things he says, that other preachers don't. But again you can tell from his preaching he doesn't grasp the Bible like other preachers.
3. I agree with this 100% and I am well aware of that verse.
Thanks for your well thought out response. You make some valid points. A question for you--not flaming, In the last 5 years Perry Noble whether individually or as pastor of the church has settled a defamation lawsuit out of court in which the church harassed a man with alternate views, He has apologized or tried to clarify/justify dozens of times when he says or does off the wall things. My question is do you believe he is setting a Godly example of how to lead a church? I understand that no pastor is perfect, and they're all human. It just seems like Perry is in constant hot water for one thing or another. Thoughts?
Tigergal2....Perry also trashed people on twitter who questioned him when he rescinded the 10 commandments. He also said you are stupid if you don't think that tithing is part of the New Testament.
Yea he says that in the video I linked above.....if you think tithing is "old Testament law" then you are stupid. Even if I didn't know all the other questionable things Noble has done or said, that one video should be enough to get people to stop attending his church and certainly to stop giving him money.
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