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Laughing at this Trump hysteria. That ship sailed but the Dems just love him too much.
I've seen some talking heads claim they have evidence that the Jan 6th Committee had a far bigger impact than expected and absolutely helped the mid-terms from becoming a giant red wave. That was a totally blown opportunity for the Republicans, though I have no idea what they could have done to affect the findings. And in all fairness, there were two Republicans on the committee - normal ones anyway.
The thing that blows my mind is the mid-terms proved that the public is tired of the bullshit and the last thing they want is a bunch of clowns taking up all the air in the room for the next two years with a bunch of obnoxious, vengeful investigations. They just aren't listening and I'm quite sure, it will cost them down the road.
By the way, whatever happened to inflation? You know, the huge issue that they ran on??
That being said there was absolutely collusion between the media and the Democrats to make sure that Joe Biden won. That's dangerous and the fact that you don't seem to recognize that is a little stunning to me.
You realize this happens on both sides, right? There is collusion all the time between trump (or insert republican name here) and fox news, oann, etc. We have texts between hannity and trump's COS proving that fox was basically the his propaganda wing.
Don't believe me? The next time a really negative story about a republican breaks (in other words, tomorrow) take a look at foxnews.com and tell me how prominently they are covering it. Or spinning it for that manner.
Why is it OK for the right wing media to collude with the right (they have been doing it for 20+ years) but the "media" as you call them should held to a higher standard?
Do you think this is what America wants or just you dark-red MAGAs? Losing the Senate and squeaking out a win in the House, that should have been a landslide is NOT a mandate to pursue a revenge campaign against Biden simply because he stomped your orange calf. Nobody gives a shit about this trash - and they especially don't care what the sleazeballs on the other side have to say.
Six OSU wrestlers say Rep. Jim Jordan knew about sexual abuse of male athletes
Six former OSU wrestlers say that Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan knew about the sexual abuse of male athletes and has been lying about knowing nothing.
I see what you are saying... but a question here.
Biden's own lawyers found the documents and self reported and turned them over all on their own. If they'd simply covered it up and shredded them, we would never have known. Trump on the other hand ignored court orders and DOJ requests until the FBI came and took them. THEN he told us that the FBI planted them. THEN he told us that he "declassified" them by simply thinking them declassified and there's no evidence that he went through ANY of the process to let the agencies that own the documents know that he declassified them.
Biden on the other hand simply looks like he forgot all about them. I'm not sure which is worse...
Personally, I'm a results driven guy. Both Trump and Biden had classified documents and were not supposed to have them. Honesty, It doesn't matter how they got there, it only matters that these documents were not protected as they should have been.
It isn't ok at all. I know what you're referring to and you're right. Fox and others won't cover a lot of things and vice versa with the left. But here is the rub
Fox News and NewsMax versus
NBC
ABC
CBS
NYT
USA Today
CNN
Washington Post
MSNBC
And so on and on and on...
Kind of tilted...
Also when have Republicans been able to ban a story? We saw that last time. Joe Biden was vetted the 80s and found unfit. It has been more of the same since and yet he went unexposed last time. Why? We know the answer.
This is all true, although Trump had the authority to remove and declassify and by all account the documents were protected to satisfaction. Should we believe that, Hell IDK. The case with Biden as he had no authority at all to declassify or anything else. This is turn makes it that much worse and much more mysterious and secretive!
Trump lying, should not go unpunished!
We will see what happen's now with Biden. When I first posted this, I was of the thinking that these docs were planted, but not by who many on here think.
How do you know Obama didn't mentally declassify the documents Joe had?
It's much more even than that.
So you really believe this stuff you post? A little help...
Nightly news on the networks draw 5-8m viewers per network. All lean significantly left. About 20m people watch each night.
Here Are Evening News Ratings for 2021-’22 TV Season and Q3 2022
World News Tonight was No. 1 all 52 weeks of the TV season in Adults 25-54 and in Total Viewers. However, the newscast shed viewers from the previous season, as did NBC and CBS' evening offerings.
www.adweek.com
About 3-3.5m people watch Fox News each night.
MSNBC has about 1.7m and CNN about 1m.
Each night around 23m people consume left leaning news. Around 4.2m consume right leaning news.
These Are the Top-Rated Cable News Shows for October 2022
The Five marked its seventh consecutive month as the most-watched cable news show.
www.adweek.com
How about paid news online? NYT has more by itself than almost all right leaning news sites combined.
Ranked: The Most Popular Paid Subscription News Websites
Many consumers are reluctant to pay for their news, but those that do turn to trusted sources. Here's a look at the most subscribed to news websites.
www.visualcapitalist.com
How about newspaper circulation?
The 10 Most Popular Daily Newspapers In The United States
The USA Today, The New York Times, and the The Wall Street Journal occupy the top three spots of the most popular daily newspapers in the US.
www.worldatlas.com
So let's do this. I want to use your logic with money according to your super handy visual.
I will give you a stack of 10 $1 bills. You can give me a stack of 10 $20 bills. I mean according to you they're even that way so I'll take the stack of 10 $20 bills. I can even make a graph to show you that there are 10 increments of money on each side of it. Will that help you out?
Lol....
So you really believe this stuff you post? A little help...
Nightly news on the networks draw 5-8m viewers per network. All lean significantly left. About 20m people watch each night.
Here Are Evening News Ratings for 2021-’22 TV Season and Q3 2022
World News Tonight was No. 1 all 52 weeks of the TV season in Adults 25-54 and in Total Viewers. However, the newscast shed viewers from the previous season, as did NBC and CBS' evening offerings.
About 3-3.5m people watch Fox News each night.
MSNBC has about 1.7m and CNN about 1m.
Each night around 23m people consume left leaning news. Around 4.2m consume right leaning news.
These Are the Top-Rated Cable News Shows for October 2022
The Five marked its seventh consecutive month as the most-watched cable news show.
How about paid news online? NYT has more by itself than almost all right leaning news sites combined.
Ranked: The Most Popular Paid Subscription News Websites
Many consumers are reluctant to pay for their news, but those that do turn to trusted sources. Here's a look at the most subscribed to news websites.
How about newspaper circulation?
The 10 Most Popular Daily Newspapers In The United States
The USA Today, The New York Times, and the The Wall Street Journal occupy the top three spots of the most popular daily newspapers in the US.
So let's do this. I want to use your logic with money according to your super handy visual.
I will give you a stack of 10 $1 bills. You can give me a stack of 10 $20 bills. I mean according to you they're even that way so I'll take the stack of 10 $20 bills. I can even make a graph to show you that there are 10 increments of money on each side of it. Will that help you out?
Lol....
This was not the argument that I was responding to. You listed two media sources that were conservative and then 10 that were liberal and used that as your argument. You listed a mix of print / online / tv.
Now, in your never-ending effort to be right about everything, you are changing the conversation. I am embarrassed for you.
Waste of $ too. American taxpayers are held hostage by BOTH political parties when government infrastructure and processes are used to advance party interests. We have debt issues that must be resolved.
Just compromise and throw Trump and Biden in jail and let's move on with divided government.
How are taxpayers being held hostages by BOTH parties? Only in your mind is that so. By not reasonable evaluation is that true. Trump tried a coup to stay in power. His actions had to be investigated in order to, and I don't think I'm overstating it, save democracy. Biden isn't on same planet with what Trump did, nor is he as despicable of a person.
You can only laugh at this kind of post, at this point. Dear lowered!
I'm comparing the records mishandling. It is an event they are both culpable for. 1/6 is a separate and distinct issue.
All federal employees (including the Executive Branch) receive training on how to handle government documents. Laws apply equally to all. Based upon what's reported (and facts are hard to find in politicized media), I suspect that both Trump and Biden did the same thing. Icing on the cake though is Biden criticized Trump and did it himself.
People who politicize the law and apply justice unequally to suit their political needs are part of the problem.
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