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Fair share my ass. What the hell does that mean?Who is in charge of determining what is a fair share.
Does anyone ever think about who makes the tax laws? it's the same idiots who say people aren't paying their fair share.
These people aren't CHEATS, they pay what is required on laws made by dumbasses who complain they aren't paying their fair share.
Only Dems can get away with this stupidity. The media never asks the questions because it would show how ridiculous they really are.

this is the thing that has been brilliantly eliminated from any tax discussion by the media and politicians. whenever taxes come up the conversation plays to emotional responses rather than logical and mathematical. its always examples of billionaires who pay very little effective taxes (due to carried interest - which is then never part of any tax reform) or corporations (typically through explicitly embedded writeoffs that the people ranting about them PUT THERE).

what is never discussed is exactly what % of an individuals income is fair to say they should pay given their income. what is never discussed is what exactly is this income they are paying going to? the government has already bankrupted entitlements - and funding them with their annual distribution with some tax income and borrowing from miscellaneous pork to get by doesnt work long term so it aint that. they regularly loses track of billions or funds agencies that are functionally useless due to mismanagement or actually completely pointless with billions. they continually come up with reasons to spend money but never have to answer with the preposterous amount they take in annually that isnt enough. this should be a bipartisan concern- wtf are they actually contributing that works even moderately effectively or remotely efficiently? how have they diverted everyones attention from how much money they take annually and how tf is that not enough to people not paying their fair share? they continually find reasons to drum up new bills that cost several billion to hundreds of billions or more and the amounts allocated to the subject of the bill are preposterous, nevermind the billions in bullsht pork they shove into them.

this should absolutely be a bipartisan outcry. every single thing the government runs is a financial catastrophe. they could take 100% from everyone and run out of money. why would anyone trust them to decide what anyones fair share is? they are, by an exponential degree in scale, the poorest financially managed operation in the country and arguably the world. the government is in no place to demand more when the product it pays for is so comically poor even veep couldnt have dreamed it up. not a dime should be raised until they can account for every dollar spent, why it was spent, where it actually landed, and produce evidence they manage their spending efficiently enough to create a positive difference. until then they can stfu with anyone not paying their fair share. they get enough, you show us anything you run being managed in a manner that comes remotely close to what can be considered financially literate.
 
History is going to look back at this era in disgust for how easily people were fooled by Tucker ****ing Carlson and the biggest liar in American political history. We get it, Republican policies suck ass so you need ways to demonize the other side to make them appear to be monsters. It would be laughable if you people weren't so easy to fool.

Again, it's only a small minority on the far-left that advocate for defunding the police but it is NOT a part of the Democratic platform, in fact, it's the exact opposite. But if we need to own it because you said so, then you need to do the same.
https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-far-right-wants-fbi-destroyed-and-defunded-2022-8

Again, the Green New Deal hasn't passed

How many groomers and trannies have you met? It's got to be a large number because it sounds like they're on every corner according to you - and Tucker.
I do want the FBI defunded and destroyed. They are scumbags. I'll own it. FBI needs to be dismantled, and re-branded under another name and filled with honest people. Comey et al damaged the country far more than Trump could ever do.

Defund the police came from the democrats. Maybe you don't support it, and thats a good thing, but many democrats support it. Again, just own it and say yeah my party is a bunch of ****ing idiots for supporting that instead of trying to claim its not a policy.

The green new deal is a large part of your platform. Biden is on video saying he wants to end the fossil fuel industry. He killed the pipeline in his early days of office. Gas prices have doubled since he took office. Again, just own it instead of trying to lie to people and say that is not your position.

There are trannies and gender confused kids at my children's schools. Id rather my kids not be exposed to those issues. Trannies are a small portion of the population and a disproportionate number of sexual predators.
 
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Yet another potential example of the horrible choices the GOP makes. If this is true, this guy should be broomed to the side of the road and left behind. Can't stand people who misrepresent their military service records. That's without even getting to the part where the dude had a mural of Trump on his lawn. No thank you!

Worst of the worst. Kick him out of the party. Stolen valor is despicable.
 
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I do want the FBI defunded and destroyed. They are scumbags. I'll own it. FBI needs to be dismantled, and re-branded under another name and filled with honest people. Comey et al damaged the country far more than Trump could ever do.

Defund the police came from the democrats. Maybe you don't support it, and thats a good thing, but many democrats support it. Again, just own it and say yeah my party is a bunch of ****ing idiots for supporting that instead of trying to claim its not a policy.

The green new deal is a large part of your platform. Biden is on video saying he wants to end the fossil fuel industry. He killed the pipeline in his early days of office. Gas prices have doubled since he took office. Again, just own it instead of trying to lie to people and say that is not your position.

There are trannies and gender confused kids at my children's schools. Id rather my kids not be exposed to those issues. Trannies are a small portion of the population and a disproportionate number of sexual predators.

Feel free to have your opinions and feelings about subjects, but when you intentionally refer to people by a derogatory term, when you know it's derogatory such as your repeated and willfull use of the term "trannie" nobody will ever take you seriously.

It's brings to mind similar discussions all across the American South in the late sixties when integration happened. Just substitute "Tranny" for "N*****". Same exact arguments.
 
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Feel free to have your opinions and feelings about subjects, but when you intentionally refer to people by a derogatory term, when you know it's derogatory such as your repeated and willfull use of the term "trannie" nobody will ever take you seriously.

It's brings to mind similar discussions all across the American South in the late sixties when integration happened. Just substitute "Tranny" for "N*****". Same exact arguments.

Nah, its not the same argument. at all.

But continue to make stuff up and not use any logic at all.

And how disrespectful that you didn't address me as MAGA KING.
 
When I was typing that, I was thinking to myself that I wish I could hide that comment from you because I knew you'd be pouncing on it like stink, lol. But I didn't say YOU weren't paying your fair share. Biden's comments were mostly directed at corporations and millionaire tax cheats.

And LOL at all the dead people that also said LOL at vaccinations and masks.

Don't hide from me just because I correct misinformation. This is what you said:

Democrats want people to pay their fair share

Joe Biden campaigned on raising taxes for families making $400K. The Obama/Biden administration specifically targeted families making $250K for tax increase. There is a crystal clear pattern here. This means:

  • Democrat leadership does not believe families making $400K are paying their fair share OR
  • Democrat leadership misrepresents their position by talking about "wall street billionaires and corporations," but really wants to squeeze as much money as possible out of the tax base - even from people paying their fair share - in order to fund their handout programs

So which is it?

You personally seem to believe that people making $400K pay their fair share (most are). You also personally believe that the $500B+ student loan forgiveness executive order was a bad idea (it's terrible). But these are absolute tenants of the Democrat party. Penalize achievement with high taxes and reward failure with handouts. It's the biggest fundamental difference I have with the left and a key reason I cannot support any democrat politician.

Democrat politicians don't want people to just pay their fair share. That's just a marketable talking point. They want to take as much as possible to fund their big government ideology. They target the "rich" because it's a small minority of the population (but the ones who pay most of the taxes) and they sow division (tax the rich! they don't pay their fair share!) in order to win favor for their position.

It's disingenuous, disgusting and un-American.
 
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Feel free to have your opinions and feelings about subjects, but when you intentionally refer to people by a derogatory term, when you know it's derogatory such as your repeated and willfull use of the term "trannie" nobody will ever take you seriously.

It's brings to mind similar discussions all across the American South in the late sixties when integration happened. Just substitute "Tranny" for "N*****". Same exact arguments.
Like when you call people nazi's or racist with no evidence?
 
The only person I've ever called a Nazi was using a swastika as an avatar so seems like a reasonable response. Who have I called a racist?
Who had a swastika? When I say "you" im speaking more to your side of the debate thats always throwing out those terms at people that dont agree with them on an issue. So to be clear not directly you to which I refer....
 
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How about we vote for most of these things minus Trump's baggage, election deniers, the weird righties who don't support Ukraine and the fringe whackos who do things like follow Q or storm capitol buildings?

Let's do that and you have a winning ticket.
Sold! Where do I sign?
 
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Not a damn thing has changed except a dishonest focus on it from the right-wing media that wants to fool you into believing this is a big issue. But I assure you, no one would be in favor of encouraging children to change their gender, regardless of what you saw on Tik Tok. The issue is much more complicated than that and wouldn't be taken lightly by anyone involved in a decision to undergo that radical type of surgery. To claim it's a "Democrat thing" is disingenuous and frankly a lie to scare you into voting the libs out. Ridiculous
Let's get serious. The Biden administration and the dem party are pushing the trans sex stuff like there is no tomorrow. Joe stood up and said it right to the camera. They are trying to intertwine it with title 9 and tying compliance to school funding. Your party owns this lock stock and barrel. This sets the new standard for sickness.
 
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Let's get serious. The Biden administration and the dem party are pushing the trans sex stuff like there is no tomorrow. Joe stood up and said it right to the camera. They are trying to intertwine it with title 9 and tying compliance to school funding. Your party owns this lock stock and barrel. This sets the new standard for sickness.
You are pathetic Growls, seriously. Do trans people have a right to exist or should they kill themselves? What should be done about them? Tell me, I want to hear it in your words. _ _ _ _ _

This grooming bullshit is an age old trope first used against gays and now focused on trans as a way to marginalize and dehumanize them. It also leads to actual violence against them and it's despicable. Now you've got FoxNews pounding this hateful demonization nightly to appeal to your smooth reptilian brain, because they know how easy you are to manipulate. The grooming narrative taps into your primal sense of fear and appeals to your fear of change. And they know that...

I'm damn proud that Joe stood up for them because first and foremost they are human beings. But you intentionally shield yourself from recognizing their humanity so you can continue to hate them and otherize them like they're zoo animals, in hopes of winning a fake culture war. That's the real sickness and you own that.
 
You are pathetic Growls, seriously. Do trans people have a right to exist or should they kill themselves? What should be done about them? Tell me, I want to hear it in your words. _ _ _ _ _

This grooming bullshit is an age old trope first used against gays and now focused on trans as a way to marginalize and dehumanize them. It also leads to actual violence against them and it's despicable. Now you've got FoxNews pounding this hateful demonization nightly to appeal to your smooth reptilian brain, because they know how easy you are to manipulate. The grooming narrative taps into your primal sense of fear and appeals to your fear of change. And they know that...

I'm damn proud that Joe stood up for them because first and foremost they are human beings. But you intentionally shield yourself from recognizing their humanity so you can continue to hate them and otherize them like they're zoo animals, in hopes of winning a fake culture war. That's the real sickness and you own that.
You are off your rocker on this one bro and wrong on an epic level. I believe in live and let live, but stay the F**K away from the kids in school. Its just wrong and it is grooming. The kids that get pulled into this insanity get their lives destroyed more often than not. The gays are even against these despicable groomers. There is no defense for this insanity. I am glad my kids are adults now. I would absolutely get put in jail for some bad stuff if some school personnel were to infect my kids minds with BS without my knowledge and consent and I am sure there are countless other parents that feel the same way. There is no middle ground here. ITS WRONG!!

 
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You are off your rocker on this one bro and wrong on an epic level. I believe in live and let live, but stay the F**K away from the kids in school. Its just wrong and it is grooming. The kids that get pulled into this insanity get their lives destroyed more often than not. The gays are even against these despicable groomers. There is no defense for this insanity. I am glad my kids are adults now. I would absolutely get put in jail for some bad stuff if some school personnel were to infect my kids minds with BS without my knowledge and consent and I am sure there are countless other parents that feel the same way. There is no middle ground here. ITS WRONG!!

FoxNews and right-wing media use the word "groomer" to trigger an emotional, protective reponse because polling shows it works. Sure we can agree that grooming is bad but lets not pretend it's some sinister, widepread problem they want you to believe it is. I posted on here several times a list of thousands of white Republican males who have been convicted of "actual" molestation, but right-wing media doesn't seem to think that's an issue that needs to be reported on nightly. Why not? Why aren't you outraged about it?? Is it because despite those numbers it's still rare? Well this would be much more rare than that but you'd never know if you watch Tik Tok and listen to Tucker. There's a reason they focus on it so much - because they know they can manipulate your rage and drive you to the polls for fear of a great boogeyman that doesn't exist. They don't give two shits about the fallout and the harm they're creating for millions of innocent human beings that just want to live their life in peace. Stop being manipulated so damn easy and use some common sense.
 
Let's get serious. The Biden administration and the dem party are pushing the trans sex stuff like there is no tomorrow. Joe stood up and said it right to the camera. They are trying to intertwine it with title 9 and tying compliance to school funding. Your party owns this lock stock and barrel. This sets the new standard for sickness.
They also have a tranny working in the department of health. Or whoever that Levine fella is.
 
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FoxNews and right-wing media use the word "groomer" to trigger an emotional, protective reponse because polling shows it works. Sure we can agree that grooming is bad but lets not pretend it's some sinister, widepread problem they want you to believe it is. I posted on here several times a list of thousands of white Republican males who have been convicted of "actual" molestation, but right-wing media doesn't seem to think that's an issue that needs to be reported on nightly. Why not? Why aren't you outraged about it?? Is it because despite those numbers it's still rare? Well this would be much more rare than that but you'd never know if you watch Tik Tok and listen to Tucker. There's a reason they focus on it so much - because they know they can manipulate your rage and drive you to the polls for fear of a great boogeyman that doesn't exist. They don't give two shits about the fallout and the harm they're creating for millions of innocent human beings that just want to live their life in peace. Stop being manipulated so damn easy and use some common sense.
So black males arent convicted of molestation (or mexican males or philipino males or any other race)? CNN and MSNBC got you on the white man is bad thought train? lol

You particpate in what you accuse. Typical

And fwiw Fox news is terrible and i dont watch that crap. All the news is crap if you haven't noticed, right along with social media. All you need to do is open your eyes and think for yourself and you can see what it is going on. Gender identity problems have been created out of thin air in the last 5 years and they have infiltrated our schools. Anyone pushing that crap should be ashamed of themselves and held accountable.
 
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So black males arent convicted of molestation? CNN and MSNBC got you on the white man is bad thought train? lol
Oh look how easy it was for you to understand the problem with targeting a demographic. I'm glad you can see it clearly now!

I've never seen CNN and MSNBC reporting on white Republican male sexual abuse....call them what you want but their standards are higher than right-wing manipulation TV.
 
FoxNews and right-wing media use the word "groomer" to trigger an emotional, protective reponse because polling shows it works. Sure we can agree that grooming is bad but lets not pretend it's some sinister, widepread problem they want you to believe it is. I posted on here several times a list of thousands of white Republican males who have been convicted of "actual" molestation, but right-wing media doesn't seem to think that's an issue that needs to be reported on nightly. Why not? Why aren't you outraged about it?? Is it because despite those numbers it's still rare? Well this would be much more rare than that but you'd never know if you watch Tik Tok and listen to Tucker. There's a reason they focus on it so much - because they know they can manipulate your rage and drive you to the polls for fear of a great boogeyman that doesn't exist. They don't give two shits about the fallout and the harm they're creating for millions of innocent human beings that just want to live their life in peace. Stop being manipulated so damn easy and use some common sense.
I am totally in agreement with the stiffest punishment for all pedophiles and groomers. This stuff does not belong in schools as part of a curriculum though. When the gays are against then that says a lot.
 
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I am totally in agreement with the stiffest punishment for all pedophiles and groomers. This stuff does not belong in schools as part of a curriculum though. When the gays are against then that says a lot.
"part of a curriculum" LMAO. My god this country is lost.
 
What should happen to her? Is she not allowed to have a job or live her life in peace?

Him. That is a dude pretending to be a woman. He was born with a penis and either still has one or he cut it off. If he still has one then why is he acting like a woman? If he was acting like a feral cat would you say the same thing? If he doesn’t have a penis that means he cut his off. I dont think someone dimemebering themselves should be in a position of authority.

Now is when you call me a bigot for thinking people should not dismember themselves and you think that is a healthy, normal activity.

guess we will have to agree to disagree.
 
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"part of a curriculum" LMAO. My god this country is lost.
They are trying to put it in the curriculum and have in some counties and are actively recruiting wack job teachers that will push this agenda under the table. Parents please be aware and take the time to keep up with whats happening at your childrens schools. These fricking activist county admins think they can do whatever the hell they want since most parents do not pay attention to whats going on.
 
Him. That is a dude pretending to be a woman. He was born with a penis and either still has one or he cut it off. If he still has one then why is he acting like a woman? If he was acting like a feral cat would you say the same thing? If he doesn’t have a penis that means he cut his off. I dont think someone dimemebering themselves should be in a position of authority.

Now is when you call me a bigot for thinking people should not dismember themselves and you think that is a healthy, normal activity.

guess we will have to agree to disagree.
It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with what another human being feels is right for their happiness but this has been going on for 50-60 years and it's not going away. If she's a decent, qualified human being and Biden thinks she is right for the job, then I accept it. I'm sure there are plenty of organizations that don't want bigoted, backwoods rednecks in positions of authority but some would consider you anyway.
 
It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with what another human being feels is right for their happiness but this has been going on for 50-60 years and it's not going away. If she's a decent, qualified human being and Biden thinks she is right for the job, then I accept it. I'm sure there are plenty of organizations that don't want bigoted, backwoods rednecks in positions of authority but some would consider you anyway.
So now im a backwoods redneck because i don't think people should cut their dicks off. I'll proudly wear that label if that's the case. Interesting. You won't label someone who cuts themselves and takes drugs to alter themselves, yet you will label a normal human being with a racial slur.

And again, that is a him any way you slice it. Pun intended.
 
They are trying to put it in the curriculum and have in some counties and are actively recruiting wack job teachers that will push this agenda under the table. Parents please be aware and take the time to keep up with whats happening at your childrens schools. These fricking activist county admins think they can do whatever the hell they want since most parents do not pay attention to whats going on.
This conservative driven, sustained attack on the teaching profession is exactly why we have such a severe teacher shortage right now. Teachers are sick and tired of being unfairly attacked over fake culture war issues when all they want to do is to honor the teaching profession by doing a good job for their pupils. It's sickening and it's out of control.

 
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So now im a backwoods redneck because i don't think people should cut their dicks off. I'll proudly wear that label if that's the case. Interesting. You won't label someone who cuts themselves and takes drugs to alter themselves, yet you will label a normal human being with a racial slur.

And again, that is a him any way you slice it. Pun intended.
Where do we draw the line? Should people that get plastic surgery or tattooes be allowed to participate in society? What about bodybuilders that alter their appearance through steroids or HGH? And who gets to make that decision? Have we now come to a place where if you don't like something, no one else should be allowed to have it? Your prejudices take precedence over everything else? Why is that ok?
 
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Where do we draw the line? Should people that get plastic surgery or tattooes be allowed to participate in society? What about bodybuilders that alter their appearance through steroids or HGH? And who gets to make that decision? Have we now come to a place where if you don't like something, no one else should be allowed to have it? Your prejudices take precedence over everything else? Why is that ok?
Ive never said he shouldn't be allowed to be a tranny if he wants to. Ive said, clearly, do it on his own time and that he shouldn't be in a position of authority. And don't expect me to pretend you are the opposite gender when you aren't.

We draw the line when your behavior affects others.

Is getting a tatoo affecting anyone else? No.

When you are a man and pretend to be a woman and then enter a womans sports competition you are affecting all women. When you are a man and fill out an application saying you are a woman, you are affecting all women.

When you are clearly a man and asking others to call you a woman, you are mandating that someone else participate in your fantasy.

Bodybuilders don't affect someone else unless they get roid rage, for which they would be held accountable.

This isn't that hard.
 
Ive never said he shouldn't be allowed to be a tranny if he wants to. Ive said, clearly, do it on his own time and that he shouldn't be in a position of authority. And don't expect me to pretend you are the opposite gender when you aren't.

We draw the line when your behavior affects others.

Is getting a tatoo affecting anyone else? No.

When you are a man and pretend to be a woman and then enter a womans sports competition you are affecting all women. When you are a man and fill out an application saying you are a woman, you are affecting all women.

When you are clearly a man and asking others to call you a woman, you are mandating that someone else participate in your fantasy.

Bodybuilders don't affect someone else unless they get roid rage, for which they would be held accountable.

This isn't that hard.
Not sure how her role in the govt. affects all others but if calling her 'she' is that traumatic for you and all women, I just don't have words. I'm with you on the women's sports issue but that's not really what we're talking about. We are talking about the politicization of that tiny population to make it seem like they are trying to overrun our schools and encourage children to mangle their genitalia. It's hard enough for these people just to get through their day without you reducing them to pedophiles and groomers because right-wing media has convinced you that you need to be very afraid of them. It's a despicable attempt to score political points at the expense of people that just want to live their lives without harassment. Because they know that Orange Julius is a horrible human being, they needed to come up with a reason that makes the other side just as bad. All they have to do is use trigger words to turn you into a raving lunatic about a false boogeyman. You are putty in their hands and they know it.
 
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Not sure how her role in the govt. affects all others but if calling her 'she' is that traumatic for you and all women, I just don't have words. I'm with you on the women's sports issue but that's not really what we're talking about. We are talking about the politicization of that tiny population to make it seem like they are trying to overrun our schools and encourage children to mangle their genitalia. It's hard enough for these people just to get through their day without you reducing them to pedophiles and groomers because right-wing media has convinced you that you need to be very afraid of them. It's a despicable attempt to score political points at the expense of people that just want to live their lives without harassment. Because they know that Orange Julius is a horrible human being, they needed to come up with a reason that makes the other side just as bad. All they have to do is use trigger words to turn you into a raving lunatic about a false boogeyman. You are putty in their hands and they know it.
If they want to live without harassment then don't enter a woman's competition as a man. Don't ask other people to call you something you are not. Don't encourage children to consider your lifestyle choices. You act like none of that is happening when it is. It is in my children's schools, both public and private. So for you to say its not happening is disingenuous.

I don't watch fox news, newsmax facebook, cnn, msnbc, nbc ,cbs or any other trash. Ever. Its all garbage. I speak from viewing the world around me. Its not a boogeyman. Boogemen don't exist while trannies participating in womens sports does. Trannies expecting you to call them by different pronouns exist. Groomers exist. They are not boogeymen.
 
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If they want to live without harassment then don't enter a woman's competition as a man. Don't ask other people to call you something you are not. Don't encourage children to consider your lifestyle choices. You act like none of that is happening when it is. It is in my children's schools, both public and private. So for you to say its not happening is disingenuous.

I don't watch fox news, newsmax facebook, cnn, msnbc, nbc ,cbs or any other trash. Ever. Its all garbage. I speak from viewing the world around me. Its not a boogeyman. Boogemen don't exist while trannies participating in womens sports does. Trannies expecting you to call them by different pronouns exist. Groomers exist. They are not boogeymen.
Wait a minute, just so we're clear. There are trans in your child's school that are encouraging children to consider other lifestyle choices? They are grooming your children and demanding they be called by a different pronoun? Sounds like a bunch of bullshit to me. I'd bet good money you're making this shit up to win a political argument
 
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If they want to live without harassment then don't enter a woman's competition as a man. Don't ask other people to call you something you are not. Don't encourage children to consider your lifestyle choices. You act like none of that is happening when it is. It is in my children's schools, both public and private. So for you to say its not happening is disingenuous.

I don't watch fox news, newsmax facebook, cnn, msnbc, nbc ,cbs or any other trash. Ever. Its all garbage. I speak from viewing the world around me. Its not a boogeyman. Boogemen don't exist while trannies participating in womens sports does. Trannies expecting you to call them by different pronouns exist. Groomers exist. They are not boogeymen.
It's OK to ask people but they shouldn't demand people do it.
 
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