I’m not picking on you but this makes sense. Some of the positions you hold are elitist. How much practical, boots on the ground experience do you have in everyday life with these issues? Like personal experience where you’ve seen something like you’re describing. My sociology professors had great intentions but not so great ideas.
Again, no need to post my creds(tho I posted my degree lol) or my profession or where I worked in those areas. But yes I worked intimately with poc for the entirety of my career before I switched to a different one a few years ago.
Yes sir I understand that. I don’t mean in your professional life. I’m referring to an actual experience(s) in your life. Someone with your credentials is most likely dealing with the extremes of these situations. That will naturally skew the lens you look through. You’re a human and capable of bias.
Oh you mean the glass ceiling that middle class black people face that white people don’t near as much?
I keep telling you it feels gross to do this and I won't- I promise I cover all the basis you're worried about, and the majority of my interaction with the community has been on a personal basis, though I have professional expertise as well.
Sounds good. I’m getting a little confused as to how real life experience is objectifying but I’m most likely a dumb poor white guy. I prefer to work on bringing all people up as opposed to lowering some people’s standards, that’s how’s athletics work. Frankly to do otherwise would be frowned upon in the sports I’m involved in. Unfortunately academia and social work do not. I’m ok with agreeing to disagree. I hope you understand that differing perspectives and experiences don’t make me a racist or a trumper. That way of treating people has benefited the most people for the most good in my life and it’s selfish not to share. I believe in equality.
Feel free to provide these examples of “glass ceilings” that whites don’t experience and make a case. I’m unaware of this data.
That’s not my job to do. Actually go online and research the data that is out there instead of going off your anecdotal experiences.
Yikes, not sure what the OP has to do with white poors holding the black man down but ok. Maybe read the post before popping off.
I agree with you. I wonder if he has a problem with the fact that most professional athletes in America are poc. The NBA is 80% black. It’s always interesting to me to watch them fight for poc’s in spaces but not whites. Somehow if an industry or profession is dominated by poc it is fine, if an industry doesn’t have a proper mix however that industry or profession is racist. Furthermore that industry needs people like this guy to white knight them and rescue the marginalized group (their perspective). There’s just no consistency with these folks. Then they wonder why they can’t win an election or get consensus on their position. It’s because the left is obsessed with being in charge of choosing the winners and losers. They are obsessed with class warfare and racial politics. They are obsessed with the oppressor/oppresed model, that’s what CRT is. This line of thinking isn’t conducive for a society that is attempting to bring diverse cultures together for a commons goal. It’s so strange all these guys with degrees can’t seem to wrap their head around common sense. Their current model is to advocate for one group by tearing down another. And when that group has decided it’s not right, they’re now called racists, when in fact it’s self preservation. Oh well, like one of these guys said I’m just a poor, dumb white guy.
I have been thinking about this, whats the academia answer to the following question:
No, for the most part I'm talking about the states. Racism, oppression, issues, etc. abound other places, but they aren't really as much of interest to me, nor do I know much about it.
Still rent free in your head. Meanwhile I live a great life and care about others.
What’s your thoughts on this quick video? I think this is a fair and reasonable assessment of the current climate from black people themselves. They’re doing a much better job of verbalizing what this thread was initially started for. We need respect, responsibility and accountability evenly applied across the board regardless of race. It begs a great question though, how much does personal behavior factor in to this? It seems you’re excusing universally agreed upon bad personal behavior because of trauma from 200 years ago.
My thoughts on this are there’s a lack of a father or strong male influence in a lot of these instances. I think the government took the place of fathers in the black communities and this has been detrimental. You have aggressive young men being raised by hyper sensitive women that are triggered at the drop of a hat. Their children are seeing and amplifying that behavior. You also see virtually no accountability in those communities. A great example would be the school systems of Chicago Detroit and Baltimore. It was reported last month that less than 10% of the black HS students in Chicago were literate. It’s 2025, this is the greatest, wealthiest nation in the world and we have entire communities that cannot read and write at an elementary school level. Why has that community allowed the lack of accountability to degrade the lives of their very own children. These are their communities lead by their chosen leaders.
Again, this is a racist argument- You are essentially saying its inherent in black culture to not have black men as strong fathers. The implication is that white fathers are better and more present. If there are outlying factors as to why there aren't strong male influences in black culture, there must be a reason, if its not based on race or culture. If we treat all the same, what are the outlying factors?
I’m not making any racist arguments, I’m telling you facts. White males are clearly more present. I gave my opinion on why, you said it was because of slavery. I guess we are at an impasse.
Damn racist facts.
Older racist facts from 2012:
I'm not saying the data is wrong- I'm merely questioning what are the factors that got these communities there and the reason for the discrepancy. That's our massive gap, and I've offered my studied opinion, and you've offered yours.
In my defense, I did say this a few times a few pages ago, as I knew we'd end up here. Ultimately I think your argument ends on the black community being inferior, and you think your argument ends on government overreach and coddling.
I could find 1000 videos of black people saying exactly what I’m saying right now. Are they wrong too? Do your studies outweigh their experiences? I literally posted one.
Separating them by race is DEI so you should be using a combined percentage for all races since we are a colorblind society and we don't want to suggest that one group is better than another, because then whites might get priority in hiring or something like that.
We could all pick and choose anecdotal evidence. If that won the day, the democrats would've won this election according to the internet hive mind.
Wtf is this? Why do they have to think they’re inferior to white people to have an opinion that fatherless homes are impacting their communities? Are you serious with that. What do white people have to do with that? It’s black men talking about other black men in the black community and you think the question should be are they inferior to whites? This is complete nonsense and I hope you received scholarships for your studies, if you’re in debt from that horse shit you should be embarrassed.
The point is you’re full of shit. I got it loud and clear big dog.
