how can trump streamline the visa for illegals to get in line to become american citizens. can he do an executive order?
he needs to streamline the green card too.
he needs to streamline the green card too.
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Heard a good perspective this morning - that many people that voted for Trump don't actually expect him do do things like build a giant wall or deport 20M illegals, they voted him in to disrupt an increasingly disfunctional Washington. Obviously Dems are a bit nervous this morning, but congressional Republicans can't be much more comfortable.
highly recommend you listen to Colbert's closing comments from his live broadcast last night, a very sobering look at the condescension and superiority from both sides that created this divide and energized the vote... something i must admit, i've been party to, despite my moderate republican leanings.
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ok. whatever. Respectful, disrespecful. It was his opinion, and entitled to it.
the country is now headed in a better direction. And I have hope for my kids future.
This was MUCH more than a vote for Trump, the person. This was a vote for a way of life, hope, values. And I think all the exit polls showed as much.
Respectfully, wrong! Write it down. Restoring America for the people! And not corrupt politicos! The truth will be born out. Thank You Lord!
I agree with three of four. Illegal is illegal and we have a path to citizenship. You don't reward people for breaking the law.
Several years ago, I told several family members at I think a Thanksgiving meal that turned to politics (never mix alcohol, family, and holidays - LOL), that the Democrats would screw up the country so bad that the Republicans would sweep the WH and both houses.
Then Romney happened. So I looked real dumb.
I feel good right now.
Hell, I'm not even going to work today.......just gloat
Then Romney happened. So I looked real dumb.
I feel good right now.
Hell, I'm not even going to work today.......just gloat
agree, i take comfort in a few things, i'd rather have a republican replace scalia, i do think the obama administration forced too much social change down america's throat without consent, but i am fearful that our country is also losing its value of truth and substance in favor of sensation and style. i think this will be a net negative on the national debt in the long term, i could be either right or wrong about that, but i feel like my parents generation has essentially run up a debt on my credit cards that will take a lifetime to pay, that concerns me greatly and makes me fear the future, they will never feel the negative effects of it but i will and my children will.
we allowed these people to enter the country and take jobs away from american citizens by offering to do the work at reduced hourly labor rates to avoid government payroll taxes.
thats on american citizens who's objective was to suppress labor cost.
whats done is done. we should streamline the redtape to create a new class or subsivision with the application process-
1- a temporary visa that has your control number that leads a path to citizenship. cant be hard to create that.
foreign policy in the middle east will be huge
flynn will take point-
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In May 2016 he emerged as one of several leading possibilities to be the vice presidential running mate for Republican nominee Donald Trump. Flynn was not chosen as Trump's running mate; the vice presidential pick was ultimately Indiana Governor Mike Pence. At the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, Flynn delivered what the New York Times called a "fiery speech", addressing US leadership and American exceptionalism.
flynn will take point-
Lieutenant General |unit = Defense Intelligence Agency
• Joint Functional Component Command for Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance
|battles = Operation Urgent Fury
Operation Uphold Democracy
Operation Enduring Freedom
Operation Iraqi Freedom
|mawards = Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Defense Superior Service Medal (2 oak leaf clusters)
Legion of Merit (oak leaf cluster)
Bronze Star Medal (3 oak leaf clusters)
Meritorious Service Medal (5 oak leaf clusters)
Joint Service Commendation Medal
Army Commendation Medal (5 oak leaf clusters) }}
Michael Thomas Flynn (born December 1958) is a retired United States Armylieutenant general who served as the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, commander of the Joint Functional Component Command for Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance, and chair of the Military Intelligence Board from July 24, 2012, to August 2, 2014. Prior to that, he served as Assistant Director of National Intelligence. He consistently pushed for greater information and intelligence sharing and was a leading figure in coalition and special operations intelligence operations. Flynn co-authored a report in January 2010 through the Center for a New American Security entitled Fixing Intel: A Blueprint for Making Intelligence Relevant in Afghanistan, which criticized the intelligence community for lacking an understanding of the human-socio context of the battlefield in Afghanistan.
Flynn's military career was primarily operational, with numerous combat arms, conventional and special operations senior intelligence assignments. He also served as the senior intelligence officer for the Joint Special Operations Command, where he was credited with creating innovative techniques for interrogation operations and operations-intelligence fusion, leading to major breakthroughs in counterterrorism operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere against Al-Qaeda and its associated movements. Flynn is a published author, with articles appearing in Small Wars Journal, Military Review, Joint Forces Quarterly, the Center for a New American Security, and other military and intelligence publications.
In May 2016 he emerged as one of several leading possibilities to be the vice presidential running mate for Republican nominee Donald Trump. Flynn was not chosen as Trump's running mate; the vice presidential pick was ultimately Indiana Governor Mike Pence. At the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, Flynn delivered what the New York Times called a "fiery speech", addressing US leadership and American exceptionalism.
Agree with all exception on 2 where before citizenship stop the people coming in illegally and then document every living soul that is here that is NOT a US citizen
Then we think about the path to citizenship
social security administration should require an online update to all social security cards.
can easily be handled online with photocopy of birth cert and current passport.
if you cant verify online with those 2 documents, you must visit a ssa office and update in person.
all employers and all banks will be required to update all accounts thru a verification of this process after everyone has updated their social security cards. social security cards must contain photos and updated every 10 years.
all illegal immigrants must apply for a special visa to be a temporary citizen until they can work thru a streamlined process to obtain that updated social security card.
its not hard.
but he needs to finish the wall and make it more difficult to sneak in, that should improve the safety to those living along the borders and the illegals themselves, but he will have to streamline the green card process to make migrant workers to transit the border easier.
then find out from where those people are coming from and see what help their home communities need. help them create small businesses all across mexico too. create trading partners.
I really enjoyed your take earlier in this thread and believe what you said to be spot on. But sweet shvt I can't stand Stephen Colbert, he is a choad among choads.
My comments below:
1. Economically, there should be a relaxing of regulations on small and big businesses. I think you will see companies begin spending some of the cash they have been sitting on. May take 18-24 months, but this is better for businesses.
Absolutely no proof in this statement and based primarily on platform topics that are rehashed every election. You think, but you have no idea.
2. Families - the atrocious Obamacare will get "fixed". With control of the WH and both houses, Dems can't stop this from happening. One way or the other, there will be some changes. It will be better for families, small businesses, large corporations, etc. At its core, Obamacare is good......IF done correct. Both sides to work together to get a solution ASAP, before there are no more insurance companies willing to just swallow all the red ink.
Insurance companies and big pharma are making loads. Trump will continue to allow the free market to decide what drugs and healthcare should cost. Don't expect any of these so called atrocities to be resolved.
3. Morals - the direction this country was heading was a concern for many people. The evidence is the number of people who did not approve of Trump, still voted for him because of some of the social programs. That is very telling. People voted for Trump, while not even liking HIM, just to slow the tide of moral problems in this country. And yes, I am including the bathroom bills, marriage equality stuff, etc.
Trump has morals? You have to be kidding me.
4. Supreme Court. This was not an election on the two people- but of some of the things I noted above, and maybe the biggest to SOME people, is the direction of the Supreme Court. We are headed to back to tilting the court to more conservative, and hopefully stemming the tide of some of the trash being pushed thru.
This election will hopefully be a change agent for bipartisan politics. Our system is flawed and needs to be fixed. When you only have 2 representatives and Hillary and Trump are those choices, you have to wonder how we have allowed this to perpetuate for this long. Hopefully that becomes clear after this shit show.
5. An indictment of the sitting POTUS. Wow, just wow! The most disliked candidate in the history of Presidential voting just got elected and many directed their reasons towards that POS in the White House. He didn't like what Congress said - hell, he just made an executive order (which some have since been ruled illegal - he doesn't/didn't have that authority). Foreign relations? - a joke. Race relations under his watch? - maybe a low since segregation.
There is a cultural shift happening on our world that can't be blamed on your so called "POS" president. You can use him as a scapegoat but it's absolutely not true.
6. Taxes - taxes are going down, or at the minimum they won't be raised for entitlement programs. I am all for helping my fellow man. But dadgum, enough is enough. There are many hard working people in this country who are tired of the freeloading. It will never end, but some of those programs will be slowed down.
Meanwhile the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer while our government bails them out and then prints more money to make up for it meaning your 401k when you retire isn't worth shit. Good luck with that. Taxes aren't the answer.
I hope and pray that our country isn't headed down the path I think it is with Trump as President.
1. Economically, there should be a relaxing of regulations on small and big businesses. I think you will see companies begin spending some of the cash they have been sitting on. May take 18-24 months, but this is better for businesses.
Absolutely no proof in this statement and based primarily on platform topics that are rehashed every election. You think, but you have no idea.
2. Families - the atrocious Obamacare will get "fixed". With control of the WH and both houses, Dems can't stop this from happening. One way or the other, there will be some changes. It will be better for families, small businesses, large corporations, etc. At its core, Obamacare is good......IF done correct. Both sides to work together to get a solution ASAP, before there are no more insurance companies willing to just swallow all the red ink.
Insurance companies and big pharma are making loads. Trump will continue to allow the free market to decide what drugs and healthcare should cost. Don't expect any of these so called atrocities to be resolved.
3. Morals - the direction this country was heading was a concern for many people. The evidence is the number of people who did not approve of Trump, still voted for him because of some of the social programs. That is very telling. People voted for Trump, while not even liking HIM, just to slow the tide of moral problems in this country. And yes, I am including the bathroom bills, marriage equality stuff, etc.
Trump has morals? You have to be kidding me.
4. Supreme Court. This was not an election on the two people- but of some of the things I noted above, and maybe the biggest to SOME people, is the direction of the Supreme Court. We are headed to back to tilting the court to more conservative, and hopefully stemming the tide of some of the trash being pushed thru.
This election will hopefully be a change agent for bipartisan politics. Our system is flawed and needs to be fixed. When you only have 2 representatives and Hillary and Trump are those choices, you have to wonder how we have allowed this to perpetuate for this long. Hopefully that becomes clear after this shit show.
5. An indictment of the sitting POTUS. Wow, just wow! The most disliked candidate in the history of Presidential voting just got elected and many directed their reasons towards that POS in the White House. He didn't like what Congress said - hell, he just made an executive order (which some have since been ruled illegal - he doesn't/didn't have that authority). Foreign relations? - a joke. Race relations under his watch? - maybe a low since segregation.
There is a cultural shift happening on our world that can't be blamed on your so called "POS" president. You can use him as a scapegoat but it's absolutely not true.
6. Taxes - taxes are going down, or at the minimum they won't be raised for entitlement programs. I am all for helping my fellow man. But dadgum, enough is enough. There are many hard working people in this country who are tired of the freeloading. It will never end, but some of those programs will be slowed down.
Meanwhile the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer while our government bails them out and then prints more money to make up for it meaning your 401k when you retire isn't worth shit. Good luck with that. Taxes aren't the answer.
I hope and pray that our country isn't headed down the path I think it is with Trump as President.
I have no idea how people can actually watch that guy and look to him for guidance or even take him seriously.
He might not be for everyone, but thought he did a good job in his closing monologue - regardless of who won last night, 50% of America was going to be petrified about what the winning party was going to do with their new power. Going to take people like him to put a rational spin on things IMO.
You bring up some fair points, but I have to disagree with a few.
2. Since when did the fair market start with Obamacare? Free markets aren't that heavily regulated. I agree that big Pharma and even hospitals are doing well financially, but disagree health insurance providers are doing well. If it's so great for them, why pull out of the exchanges (which also contradicts your free market point)?
5. Race relations, foreign relations, and power grabs all fall in Obama's lap. He was in office for eight years and I'd also agree these are the worse race relations I've witnessed since being born (1980). Early 90's were bad (LA riots), but it's been worse under Obama.
And what do you mean by cultural shift? How so? People that hate the current political machine? I'll agree with that, but Obama is part of it. You have to remember he's from Chicago.
He also had very poor relations with the Republicans. I'll agree they dug their heels in, but when Dems had the super majority he made it clear he didn't care what they thought about anything. After all, "America had spoken." And what did he moderate on? Again, I agree they tried to take opposite sides with him even when it went against some of conservatives' core beliefs, but it's not like Obama ever cared to negotiate or compromise. In short, he was most definitely part of the problem, not the solution. In what year did Obama present his first budget to Congress? Look that up and it may surprise you.
We've lost major influence around the globe. Bush didn't help, but Obama didn't restore it. Look at countries even like the Philippines getting closest to arguably our most serious international threat (China).
Obama may not be the devil the Right makes him out to be, but he has been far from a savior for the Left.
6. I agree the middle class is shrinking, but programs like SNAP, Medicaid, and other welfare programs have exploded under Obama, so it's hard to defend the statement that the poor keep getting poorer.
Once again, I tried to point out the real vote wasnt Trump vs Hillary, per se. But rather a referendum on the current direction the country has been in for last several years. And WHAT people wanted, not WHO they wanted.
Based on exit polls, that is pretty much true
All I know is I feel good about next several years. White House, both houses in Congress, soon to be Supreme Court. Should be fewer cases of gridlock as well.
I didnt say Trump had morals. I find very few politicians do. Im excited that there will be less social issues forced on America.
And if you dont think Obamacare is bankrupting some insurance companies, thus the reason they dropped off - well I cant help you there.
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