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Props to Trump for weighing in at a svelte 6'3, 224 pounds!

I’m honestly ok with that with you at this point. I’ve already said I would have this discussion in person if you’d like, but not getting in a back and forth here. I think is more nuanced than you’re making it and I’m not going to get in a back and forth.

And that goes both ways, you’ve yet to address what I’ve said either.
Why does it need to be in private?

We have nothing to hide. I’ll address whatever you want me to and try to give an honest opinion.

But I have done my research, and Russian collusion was 100% made up.

It was fabricated out of thin air by a lie from Stephen Halper. The FBI is in trouble because it is documented they knew it was a lie. Multiple times over.

They knew it was a lie for 2 years and yet did nothing g about it.

It’s all you saw or talked about for 2 years. (Collective Democrat you)

Now yall only want to discuss it in private.

It’s not going away. Arrests are going to be made. It’s necessary for this country to move forward.

That type of plot can not be allowed to stand.
 
Why does it need to be in private?

We have nothing to hide. I’ll address whatever you want me to and try to give an honest opinion.

But I have done my research, and Russian collusion was 100% made up.

It was fabricated out of thin air by a lie from Stephen Halper. The FBI is in trouble because it is documented they knew it was a lie. Multiple times over.

They knew it was a lie for 2 years and yet did nothing g about it.

It’s all you saw or talked about for 2 years. (Collective Democrat you)

Now yall only want to discuss it in private.

It’s not going away. Arrests are going to be made. It’s necessary for this country to move forward.

That type of plot can not be allowed to stand.
It’s not about private, I could DM for that. It would just be to be in person and actually have a discussion. I honestly don’t care enough 4 years later to do all the research it would require to have the back and forth. When all the arrests happen and the evidence comes out that allows for said arrests, we can discuss it then if you wish.
 
It’s not about private, I could DM for that. It would just be to be in person and actually have a discussion. I honestly don’t care enough 4 years later to do all the research it would require to have the back and forth. When all the arrests happen and the evidence comes out that allows for said arrests, we can discuss it then if you wish.
Don’t care enough about a coup, yet posts in the political board.


Hey guys remember that coup attempt? Let’s just gloss past that.

Why do you think k the country is so divided?

Disingenuous.
 
Typical Democrat for failure to take any of the blame.

Let’s start with this,

Can you admit that Russian Collusion was a 100% made up lie in attempt to frame Trump? Im
Very interested in this answer from you @UrHuckleberry


Will you admit it was a lie, or will you continue to defend the lie?

Perhaps you still think it was legitimate? Where do you stand on one of the nations biggest scandals in its history?
Is that the party of personal responsibility calling?
 
Why does it need to be in private?

We have nothing to hide. I’ll address whatever you want me to and try to give an honest opinion.

But I have done my research, and Russian collusion was 100% made up.

It was fabricated out of thin air by a lie from Stephen Halper. The FBI is in trouble because it is documented they knew it was a lie. Multiple times over.

They knew it was a lie for 2 years and yet did nothing g about it.

It’s all you saw or talked about for 2 years. (Collective Democrat you)

Now yall only want to discuss it in private.

It’s not going away. Arrests are going to be made. It’s necessary for this country to move forward.

That type of plot can not be allowed to stand.

And please share with all of us the sources of said "research".

The Russia situation is your linchpin for supporting Trump, so you are not willing, not at all, to let any of it go.

For the record, to me, if your campaign meets with a Known Russian agent, with the express reasoning to get dirt on your political opponent, I think that's wrong and worth investigating. Don't care who did it wor what campaign.

Now can you say the same?
 
And please share with all of us the sources of said "research".

The Russia situation is your linchpin for supporting Trump, so you are not willing, not at all, to let any of it go.

For the record, to me, if your campaign meets with a Known Russian agent, with the express reasoning to get dirt on your political opponent, I think that's wrong and worth investigating. Don't care who did it wor what campaign.

Now can you say the same?
If there was a legitimate reason to open an investigation, why did they lie and make one up instead?

I can’t figure that out. But I am all ears.
 
Will you agree that meeting with a foreign operative to get dirt on a political opponent was improper?
Did Trump do that? Did he command anyone to do that? Was he in knowledge that anyone was doing that?

What exactly is the accusation?
 
Did Trump do that? Did he command anyone to do that? Was he in knowledge that anyone was doing that?

What exactly is the accusation?
AI Overview

George Papadopoulos was working for the Donald Trump presidential campaign as a foreign policy advisor when he met with the Australian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom, Alexander Downer, in London in May 2016
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Papadopoulos had joined the Trump campaign in March 2016 as a volunteer foreign policy advisor.
At the time of the meeting with Downer, he was a foreign policy advisor on Trump's team.

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WASHINGTON — During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton.

About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.

The hacking and the revelation that a member of the Trump campaign may have had inside information about it were driving factors that led the F.B.I. to open an investigation in July 2016 into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the election and whether any of President Trump’s associates conspired.

 
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AI Overview

George Papadopoulos was working for the Donald Trump presidential campaign as a foreign policy advisor when he met with the Australian High Commissioner to the United Kingdom, Alexander Downer, in London in May 2016
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Papadopoulos had joined the Trump campaign in March 2016 as a volunteer foreign policy advisor.
At the time of the meeting with Downer, he was a foreign policy advisor on Trump's team.
Ok you clearly haven’t read the information.

You haven’t read what papadopolous said, and the facts that corroborate his story.

Papa was set up by Stephen Halper, it is proven that Halper lied AND the FBI knew he lied.


Accountability must be had.
 
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She is the source. She is the one that Halper accused of having an affair with Flynn. Only problem for Halper, he got busted in his lie as she proves her location with bank records, phone receipts, and other eyewitness.

The FBI knew this. Yet said nothing and ran with it for two years. Framing General Flynn in the process.

Accountability is a must for the country to make amends.


 
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Ok you clearly haven’t read the information.

You haven’t read what papadopolous said, and the facts that corroborate his story.

Papa was set up by Stephen Halper, it is proven that Halper lied AND the FBI knew he lied.


Accountability must be had.
This shit is so tired and nobody gives af about it except you fake maga trauma victims. Waaahhh!!!!

"President Trump and his allies have asserted that the FBI’s use of Stefan Halper, a fellow at the University of Cambridge, to explore whether Russia was interfering with the 2016 election constituted “spying” on the Trump campaign. This claim is unsubstantiated. Halper was a seasoned and trusted FBI resource who had previously served in the administrations of Presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Nor is there any evidence that the FBI or Halper used unlawful or irregular means to approach members of Trump’s foreign policy team—including Page and Papadopoulos. To the contrary, Halper and a government investigator posing as a research assistant asked Page and Papadopoulos whether the Trump campaign was working with Russia. After he was briefed about the FBI’s information-gathering steps in 2018, Republican member of Congress Trey Gowdy said that the FBI’s efforts to gather information from Trump’s advisors was appropriate: “I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got,” Gowdy said. "

 
This shit is so tired and nobody gives af about it except you fake maga trauma victims. Waaahhh!!!!

"President Trump and his allies have asserted that the FBI’s use of Stefan Halper, a fellow at the University of Cambridge, to explore whether Russia was interfering with the 2016 election constituted “spying” on the Trump campaign. This claim is unsubstantiated. Halper was a seasoned and trusted FBI resource who had previously served in the administrations of Presidents Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. Nor is there any evidence that the FBI or Halper used unlawful or irregular means to approach members of Trump’s foreign policy team—including Page and Papadopoulos. To the contrary, Halper and a government investigator posing as a research assistant asked Page and Papadopoulos whether the Trump campaign was working with Russia. After he was briefed about the FBI’s information-gathering steps in 2018, Republican member of Congress Trey Gowdy said that the FBI’s efforts to gather information from Trump’s advisors was appropriate: “I am even more convinced that the FBI did exactly what my fellow citizens would want them to do when they got the information they got,” Gowdy said. "

You will see. It was all predicated on a lie. Can’t do that.

Arrests will be made this term.

It’s not a coincidence John Brennan left the country. It’s not like he all the sudden had a passion for Kangaroos or something. lol
 
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You will see. It was all predicated on a lie. Can’t do that.

Arrests will be made this term.

It’s not a coincidence John Brennan left the country. It’s not like he all the sudden had a passion for Kangaroos or something. lol
No one cares

Trump was re-elected in 2024 and that should be the end of it. This obsessive need to whitewash his legacy is tiresome.

Move tf on
 
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No one cares

Trump was re-elected in 2024 and that should be the end of it. This obsessive need to whitewash his behavior is tiresome.

Move tf on
Ok - if I committed treason and hadn’t been held accountable yet, I’d want people to think it was tiresome too.

But that’s not the way the law works. It’s called the long dick of the law for a reason.

Brennan et al are about to find out.
 
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Ok - if I committed treason and hadn’t been held accountable yet, I’d want people to think it was tiresome too.

But that’s not the way the law works. It’s called the long dick of the law for a reason.

Brennan et al are about to find out.
TRUMP SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR THAT VERY CRIME
 
So it begs the question. If that meeting was nefarious, why the need to lie? Why the need to fabricate? Why the need to CONTINUE the lie? When they knew it was a lie?

All fair questions right?

Trump Jr could have been set up? I don’t know, speculating.

If there was a valid reason to open an investigation, why in the world would they fabricate one out of thin air and then knowingly sell that lie?

Why would they expose themselves to treason if they had a legitimate reason?

I just can’t make it make sense.
 
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So it begs the question. If that meeting was nefarious, why the need to lie? Why the need to fabricate? Why the need to CONTINUE the lie? When they knew it was a lie?

All fair questions right?

Trump Jr could have been set up? I don’t know, speculating.

If there was a valid reason to open an investigation, why in the world would they fabricate one out of thin air and then knowingly sell that lie?

Why would they expose themselves to treason if they had a legitimate reason?

I just can’t make it make sense.
Brennan asked Gowdy to respond to President Trump's claim Saturday that the memo "totally vindicates" him in the Russia investigation.

"I was pretty integrally involved in the drafting of [the memo]," Gowdy said, "There is a Russia investigation without a dossier. So to the extent the memo deals with the dossier and the FISA process, the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower. The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. The dossier really has nothing to do with George Papadopoulos' meeting in Great Britain."

 
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Brennan asked Gowdy to respond to President Trump's claim Saturday that the memo "totally vindicates" him in the Russia investigation.

"I was pretty integrally involved in the drafting of [the memo]," Gowdy said, "There is a Russia investigation without a dossier. So to the extent the memo deals with the dossier and the FISA process, the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower. The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. The dossier really has nothing to do with George Papadopoulos' meeting in Great Britain."


He won't acknowledge this at all, he is completely bought in on Trump being framed as his reasoning to support the ridiculous shit Trump does. The entire basis for his political ideology is this one moment.
 
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Brennan asked Gowdy to respond to President Trump's claim Saturday that the memo "totally vindicates" him in the Russia investigation.

"I was pretty integrally involved in the drafting of [the memo]," Gowdy said, "There is a Russia investigation without a dossier. So to the extent the memo deals with the dossier and the FISA process, the dossier has nothing to do with the meeting at Trump Tower. The dossier has nothing to do with an email sent by Cambridge Analytica. The dossier really has nothing to do with George Papadopoulos' meeting in Great Britain."

So from your point of view, if we had a trial and it all came out, which would inevitably include the evidence against Trump, that would be good or bad?

Let’s just say Trump was trying to collude
With Russia. I would want to know.

The American people are thirsty for Transparency. We are tired of being lied to by a group of supposed leaders.

This is more than Republican vs Democrat.

This is a crime against the nation. Also known as Treason.

They lied. They cheated. They got busted. They haven’t been held accountable yet.

 
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He won't acknowledge this at all, he is completely bought in on Trump being framed as his reasoning to support the ridiculous shit Trump does. The entire basis for his political ideology is this one moment.

Ok. Acknowledging.

Can you come up with any theoretical explanation for why, if there was a legitimate reason, would they expose themselves to treason and totally fabricate another story?

I can’t make it make sense. Maybe there is a reason I am missing

I’m open to all explanations? Genuinely trying to understand because it’s clear as day they lied and fabricated.
 
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So from your point of view, if we had a trial and it all came out, which would inevitably include the evidence against Trump, that would be good or bad?

Let’s just say Trump was trying to collude
With Russia. I would want to know.

The American people are thirsty for Transparency. We are tired of being lied to by a group of supposed leaders.

This is more than Republican vs Democrat.

This is a crime against the nation. Also known as Treason.

They lied. They cheated. They got busted. They haven’t been held accountable yet.

I really don't care about what happened 9 years ago and neither do the majority of Americans. It's much more concerning to most that Trump got away with murder and that will be a permanent black stain on America.

His crimes were much worse than anyone else's fake crimes, but you don't care about those, therefore we don't take you seriously.
 
Ok. Acknowledging.

Can you come up with any theoretical explanation for why, if there was a legitimate reason, would they expose themselves to treason and totally fabricate another story?

I can’t make it make sense. Maybe there is a reason I am missing

I’m open to all explanations? Genuinely trying to understand because it’s clear as day they lied and fabricated.

All the other stuff is relatively common in police work. You gather information from all sources, many of who are not great sources, or have some shady backgrounds which make them less than savory.

You then filter through it all, discard some, keep some and see what the picture it gives you is. Then you decide whether to prosecute or not.

The fact is they attempted to collude.

Trump tried and sucked at it, which is his MO in all things other than self promotion and adultery.
 
I really don't care about what happened 9 years ago and neither do the majority of Americans. It's much more concerning to most that Trump got away with murder and that will be a permanent black stain on America.

His crimes were much worse than anyone else's fake crimes, but you don't care about those, therefore we don't take you seriously.

I absolutely care. Justice must be served.
 
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The fact is they attempted to collude.

Trump tried and sucked at it, which is his MO in all things other than self promotion and adultery.

This is not a fact yoshi. Your opinion is wrong here which is your par for the course especially when it comes to Trump.
 
Not sure where you got that I think Trump is the only person to ever lie.

But this is straight juvenile, insecurity. Keep excusing away the most powerful man in the world's childishness I guess.
Where were you with all your demand for truthfulness when Biden was sitting in the seat of the presidency? Did you call him out for the massive number of lies he told on a daily basis and for the total disrespect he had for the office he held?
 
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Where were you with all your demand for truthfulness when Biden was sitting in the seat of the presidency? Did you call him out for the massive number of lies he told on a daily basis and for the total disrespect he had for the office he held?
I was never a Biden fan. And shared memes with my friends, cringed at every press conference, and was disgusted it was the best the Dems could seemingly do. But I had no need to call him out on this board that leans heavily right, or in the upstate of SC where I love that leans heavily right. While you could find where I likely defended certain policies, or pushed back on the over the topness from MAGA (like talking about the disrespect he had for the office while being a Trump supporter is just wild to me; you're going to disagree etc which is fine). Biden was/is my second least favorite president of my lifetime.
 
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I absolutely care. Justice must be served.
We've already had the Mueller and Durham investigations, so this matter should be settled. No one on the left committed any kind of high crime despite your need to be a professional victim.

If Trump didn't have to pay for his crimes, nobody else should be prosecuted for the ones you make up.
 
Not sure where you got that I think Trump is the only person to ever lie.

But this is straight juvenile, insecurity. Keep excusing away the most powerful man in the world's childishness I guess.

I was never a Biden fan. And shared memes with my friends, cringed at every press conference, and was disgusted it was the best the Dems could seemingly do. But I had no need to call him out on this board that leans heavily right, or in the upstate of SC where I love that leans heavily right. While you could find where I likely defended certain policies, or pushed back on the over the topness from MAGA (like talking about the disrespect he had for the office while being a Trump supporter is just wild to me; you're going to disagree etc which is fine). Biden was/is my second least favorite president of my lifetime.
Huck, as TigerGrowls has said about you and I paraphrase, "from time to time you seem to approach debates with reasonableness." I agree with that assessment and like to read your comments! I don't agree with a lot of them but can see where a person could find reasonableness in them. There are things that I don't like about Trump but I can live with them when I consider what he is trying to do and the results he is getting. There was not a single thing that I truthfully could say that I agreed with Biden on. In my view he was destroying the "concept of America" that I had formed in my mind through education and experiencing it over my 86 years of life. Keep posting, I'll keep reading and sometimes commenting as I hope you will do with some of my post. We can all learn something every day!!
 
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