Raw dairy

[jhallen]

I.posted back in March about the attack on raw dairy. Amazes me how they attack one of the healthiest most nutrient dense food on earth...but have no problem with fastfoods and processed foods....white sugar..sodas ect.. bs lies that i hope people are smart enough to see through

 

[Clemtron]

Not surprising sadly.

 

[firegiver]

i mean raw dairy isn't safe to give little kids from what I've been told. You have some example of the great injustice you are seeing? Nothing anecdotal pls

 

[TigerGrowls]

I have drank some raw milk when I can get it and its extremely good tasting for sure.

 

[fatpiggy]

Wasn’t this one of the factors that drove the Amish to the polls in PA?

 

[CUTiger1977]

Wasn’t this one of the factors that drove the Amish to the polls in PA?

 

[leetp]

i mean raw dairy isn't safe to give little kids from what I've been told. You have some example of the great injustice you are seeing? Nothing anecdotal pls

I am pro-whole milk all the way unless there is a genuine medical reason that precludes it. And while many like to romanticize the idea or 100% organic, hormone free, raw milk, is it even possible to produce it at its present rate of consumption? Is there some middle ground here? Is there some amount of acceptable hormone treatment and processing that minimizes safety risk that allows us to reach the most people?

All processing of dairy is not malicious. We don't all live next to the farm and we all can't get milk delivered daily. It has to have sufficient shelf-life through collection, packaging, distribution, purchase and storage until it is fully consumed.

 

[WapPride]

Pasteurization is a hoax!

Raw milk from a California dairy is recalled after routine testing detected the bird flu virus

State health officials say the bird flu virus was detected in a retail sample of raw milk from a dairy in Fresno, California

www.wapt.com

 

[jhallen]

If one fears getting a stomach ache from drinking raw milk...EXTREMELY LOW CHANCE....and does not want it..buy the grocery store stuff..that is their choice. If someone wants to drink and buy raw milk..let them do so..

People who want raw milk know the ridiculously small risk..know how GREAT and how incredibly nutrrient dense it is and should not have govt telling them.otherwise..raw milk drinkers know pastuerized homogenized milk is crap and prefer raw milk

They post warning labels on them..so there

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

I have drank some raw milk when I can get it and its extremely good tasting for sure.

I used to drink raw milk back in the days 50 and 60's until school milk program supplanted it

Loved it as I want to say the cream was still in the milk, so it was really smooth going down.

I drink Fai life now as it is ultra filtered and lactose free

Changes in body chemistry pushed me to that

Love milk

Drink 3-4 gallons a week 2/3's regular white 1/3 chocolate Love the chocolate aftertaste

 

[scotchtiger]

Color me ignorant on raw milk. We buy Organic Valley Grassmilk. Ultra pasteurized so I guess that’s going in the other direction.

 

[other1]

I.posted back in March about the attack on raw dairy. Amazes me how they attack one of the healthiest most nutrient dense food on earth...but have no problem with fastfoods and processed foods....white sugar..sodas ect.. bs lies that i hope people are smart enough to see through

So what do they have to gain by saying raw milk can be unsafe??

 

[jhallen]

So what do they have to gain by saying raw milk can be unsafe??

All animal foods are under attack. Eggs beef chicken ect. Raw milk and dairy is first. To answer your question..i do not know why..

People have ate these foods FOREVER. ..they are all extremely healthy and essential...and NEVER need to be banned...if there is a risk...its a lie..we should STILL be able to choose to eat them..

look for them to say in a few months/years it can pass to humans and be contagious..that will be a lie too..but some people will ignorantly believe it and demand NOBODY eat them

So the way to stop all.of this is simple....dont believe in the fear lies.....and.dont stand for the insane measures to stop it when they come out

 

[jhallen]

Bullcrap testing now

 

[jhallen]

They say 1% drink raw milk..and they say if you get sick its vomiting and upset stomach..which usually resides on its on...and btw..almost NOBODY gets sick

So why attack the raw milk industry? Its all evil..its all about control. They need to leave people TH alone

 

[Spencer_York]

Sorry, you're insane if you drink raw milk. You can get bird flu from it, other illnesses, there is cow feces in it, you can get serious GI issues. People end up in the hospital having parts of their stomachs removed or dead. Just drink pasteurized milk, it is one of the greatest things about modern science. You literally just heat the milk to 160 degrees for 15 seconds. No chemicals or anything. There is a reason why it is standard practice all over the modern world

 

[jhallen]

Sorry, you're insane if you drink raw milk. You can get bird flu from it, other illnesses, there is cow feces in it, you can get serious GI issues. People end up in the hospital having parts of their stomachs removed or dead. Just drink pasteurized milk, it is one of the greatest things about modern science. You literally just heat the milk to 160 degrees for 15 seconds. No chemicals or anything. There is a reason why it is standard practice all over the modern world

Nope..ur foolish..drank it all my life.so have people for thousands of years. Dont let tv brainwash you

We have a right to drink it..pasteurized milk is trash compared to raw milk..but thats your right

 

[WapPride]

Sorry, you're insane if you drink raw milk. You can get bird flu from it, other illnesses, there is cow feces in it, you can get serious GI issues. People end up in the hospital having parts of their stomachs removed or dead. Just drink pasteurized milk, it is one of the greatest things about modern science. You literally just heat the milk to 160 degrees for 15 seconds. No chemicals or anything. There is a reason why it is standard practice all over the modern world

You just don't get it. Humans have been drinking raw milk for thousands of years, and anyone who disagrees is a Low T liberal who doesn't understand science. Also, pasteurization is phony science and it was created by the Bilderberg Group to brainwash and control the masses.

 

[Spencer_York]

Nope..ur foolish..drank it all my life.so have people for thousands of years. Dont let tv brainwash you

We have a right to drink it..pasteurized milk is trash compared to raw milk..but thats your right

Just going to trust the food scientists on this one. The only reason milk is so widely available to drink right now is because of pasteurization. People drank raw milk because they didn't know about pasteurization. Ol' Louis is spinning in his grave fast enough to solve the world's energy crisis

 

[WapPride]

Also, don't filter your water. People have been drinking water from streams/rivers for thousands of years. There's no reason to filter/treat it before you drink it.

 

[jhallen]

Its our right to drink it. Its your right not to

 

[yoshi121374]

Its our right to drink it. Its your right not to

Drink away.

Just understand that there is a reason why it's not recommended for people to drink. We don't live in the same world we used to, we have polluted our water sources and air and that has an impact on organic food sources.

There is also the simple fact that people who have never drunk raw milk do not have a tolerance in their gut. They risk severe sickness and long-term issues from drinking raw milk.

It's similar to drinking the water in Latin America. It doesn't effect the people who grew up drinking it, but just let us try that and see how it works out for you.

 

[firegiver]

If one fears getting a stomach ache from drinking raw milk...EXTREMELY LOW CHANCE....and does not want it..buy the grocery store stuff..that is their choice. If someone wants to drink and buy raw milk..let them do so..

People who want raw milk know the ridiculously small risk..know how GREAT and how incredibly nutrrient dense it is and should not have govt telling them.otherwise..raw milk drinkers know pastuerized homogenized milk is crap and prefer raw milk

They post warning labels on them..so there

What are you even upset about? You haven't shared any details about what concerns you. You just say raw milk is under attack. how is it under attack? Who is attacking it?
We don't all live in the weird bubble you exist in.

 

[jhallen]

Drink away.

Just understand that there is a reason why it's not recommended for people to drink. We don't live in the same world we used to, we have polluted our water sources and air and that has an impact on organic food sources.

There is also the simple fact that people who have never drunk raw milk do not have a tolerance in their gut. They risk severe sickness and long-term issues from drinking raw milk.

It's similar to drinking the water in Latin America. It doesn't effect the people who grew up drinking it, but just let us try that and see how it works out for you.

Thats all im saying. If we choose to drink it..let us enjoy this incredibly nutrient rich superfood

 

[yoshi121374]

Thats all im saying. If we choose to drink it..let us..

Get a cow and drink the milk. Don't give it to others or sell it.

There has to be a point where we set rules for public safety.

Honestly, milk isn't great for you, there are much better sources of nutrients with lower fat and better for gut health.

 

[jhallen]

Get a cow and drink the milk. Don't give it to others or sell it.

There has to be a point where we set rules for public safety.

Honestly, milk isn't great for you, there are much better sources of nutrients with lower fat and better for gut health.

No....thats not enough....Other people want to drink raw milk who live in cities and cant buy a cow. They should be able to buy it without being bullied if they choose and enjoy the MANY health benefits

 

[scotchtiger]

Big fan of this stuff. It's actually ultra pasteurized so it lasts longer I guess. I don't really care who drinks what.

 

[yoshi121374]

Big fan of this stuff. It's actually ultra pasteurized so it lasts longer I guess. I don't really care who drinks what.

One of the major problems in America is that we don't have very good rules around food marketing. Who knows what organic actually means, what does grass-fed mean? Who certified that farm?

We allow so much stuff that doesn't happen in other countries. It's one of my struggles with RFK Jr. I don't disagree with him about food rules and diets. I think he's a quack around most other stuff though

 

[scotchtiger]

One of the major problems in America is that we don't have very good rules around food marketing. Who knows what organic actually means, what does grass-fed mean? Who certified that farm?

We allow so much stuff that doesn't happen in other countries. It's one of my struggles with RFK Jr. I don't disagree with him about food rules and diets. I think he's a quack around most other stuff though

Yep. It's a huge problem. It just came up with the eggs we buy. We try to buy as much organic, free range, etc as we can. There's a big difference in "pasture raised" and "cage free," but it's barely regulated. We were buying one marketed as the former (and paying $10+ per dozen), but generally raised as the latter. They were ultimately sued. At least that's the gist of what my wife told me...

I hope people are able to separate RFK's vaccine thoughts from his food supply positions. The latter could be extremely beneficial to the US and is one of the things I'm most excited about in the coming years.

 

[DW4_2016]

Its our right to drink it. Its your right not to

Don’t go to the hospital if you get sick from it and we have a deal

 

[firegiver]

No....thats not enough....Other people want raw milk who live in cities and cant buy a cow. They should be able to buy it if they choose

They can, just drive to a farm and buy it. I see, why don't you just start a milk man business. Selling raw milk.

I wonder what the insurance on such a business would cost?

 

[jhallen]

They can, just drive to a farm and buy it. I see, why don't you just start a milk man business. Selling raw milk.

I wonder what the insurance on such a business would cost?

They can for now. And as long as they are able to do so then there wont be a problem

I dont wanna sell it i want myself and others to always be able to buy it

 

[WapPride]

Yep. It's a huge problem. It just came up with the eggs we buy. We try to buy as much organic, free range, etc as we can. There's a big difference in "pasture raised" and "cage free," but it's barely regulated. We were buying one marketed as the former (and paying $10+ per dozen), but generally raised as the latter. They were ultimately sued. At least that's the gist of what my wife told me...

I hope people are able to separate RFK's vaccine thoughts from his food supply positions. The latter could be extremely beneficial to the US and is one of the things I'm most excited about in the coming years.

Costco blue eggs are elite. They're the only ones i buy now. My buddy also has like 8 chickens and will occasionally give me some of their eggs, but their yolks aren't as amber as the blue eggs from costco

 

[gardentiger]

I am pro-whole milk all the way unless there is a genuine medical reason that precludes it. And while many like to romanticize the idea or 100% organic, hormone free, raw milk, is it even possible to produce it at its present rate of consumption? Is there some middle ground here? Is there some amount of acceptable hormone treatment and processing that minimizes safety risk that allows us to reach the most people?

All processing of dairy is not malicious. We don't all live next to the farm and we all can't get milk delivered daily. It has to have sufficient shelf-life through collection, packaging, distribution, purchase and storage until it is fully consumed.

We gave our young kids raw milk. Never any problems. So much fat that they could only drink 1/2 cup.

 

[jhallen]

We gave our young kids raw milk. Never any problems. So much fat that they could only drink 1/2 cup.

I have never talked to anyone who had problems drinking it. Always the opposite.

It should be a choice that nobody should interfere with

 

[yoshi121374]

We gave our young kids raw milk. Never any problems. So much fat that they could only drink 1/2 cup.

My honest question, and I'm not judging, is Why?

What did you hope to get from milk?

Raw Milk

Raw milk is milk from cows, goats, sheep, or other animals that has not been pasteurized. Pasteurization is the process of heating milk to a high enough temperature for a long enough time to kill illness-causing bacteria contained in the milk.

doh.wa.gov

 

[firegiver]

They can for now. And as long as they are able to do so then there wont be a problem

I dont wanna sell it i want myself and others to always be able to buy it

So where is this attack? Why the sudden concern? I'm so confused because I can never recall a time where I could go to Publix and buy raw milk

 

[gardentiger]

My honest question, and I'm not judging, is Why?

What did you hope to get from milk?

Raw Milk

Raw milk is milk from cows, goats, sheep, or other animals that has not been pasteurized. Pasteurization is the process of heating milk to a high enough temperature for a long enough time to kill illness-causing bacteria contained in the milk.

doh.wa.gov

To support a local gal(4miles from us). It is unbelievably good. To help decentralize farming(see joel salitin and farm to consumer legal defense fund dot org). If you don't have access to some local farmers(yes we still go to costco, also)for some of your food you hate your community.😃jk
Ultimately, the disappearance of small family farms could be described as a national security issue.

 

[yoshi121374]

To support a local gal(4miles from us). It is unbelievably good. To help decentralize farming(see joel salitin and farm to consumer legal defense fund dot org). If you don't have access to some local farmers(yes we still go to costco, also)for some of your food you hate your community.😃jk
Ultimately, the disappearance of small family farms could be described as a national security issue.

Thanks for the answer. I agree with supporting local farmers. I buy much of my meat and produce locally. I grow a small garden every summer for my family as well.

 

[leetp]

We gave our young kids raw milk. Never any problems. So much fat that they could only drink 1/2 cup.

Again, how shelf stable it is? Where do you get it from? Are you near a dairy farm?

And if it is readily available to you, what it the issue?

Isn't it reasonable to caution the public about consuming unpasteurized dairy much the same way we caution about eating undercooked beef or about leaving butter out? I eat rare--sometimes near raw--meat and I always have a stick of butter at room temp. I'm grateful for the warnings, but the risk is mine to accept or reject.