Ric Flair on Joe Rogan
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So you’ll tune out a completely rational, level headed guy who genuinely searches for the truth because he allowed someone you don’t like to talk? Not only is that childish but it’s completely counterproductive. Freedom of speech is valued so much in the west(not sure on that anymore) for a reason. Censorship is for communists who want the truth suppressed. It also leaves no room for people to redeem themselves. Is that where we want to go as a society?
I don’t agree with what Jones did either, but come on. And FTR Rogan has repeatedly called out Jones on Sandy Hook and clearly says he thinks he was wrong for it
He’s always been a liberal. The people telling you that he and Tim Pool are “far-right radicals” are either lying to you because they have an agenda, or are regurgitating what they’ve been told by their echo chamber
When it comes to taking a dump on the graves of murdered kids, yes. Its surprising you don't see that many people would think that's a line you don't cross and would choose to not listen to someone who gives that kind of idiot a platform. It has nothing to do with free speech or communism. That's silly and you know it. If Jones had wanted to come on the show and apologize, maybe that's a different story.
And I said I like Rogan just fine but clearly understand why a lot of people would find that allowing Jones on his show to spread his ignorance and absurdity appalling enough to not bother with him anymore. Its not like Rogan is everyone's cup of tea anyway.
I was trying to be sarcastic I know he considers himself a liberal. Though liberals now consider him a right wing extremest.
I think he is a pretty free thinking guy. He has a lot of liberal views especially when it comes to drugs. I think he also has a lot of conservative views like 2nd amendment. But as a right leaning man I find him more of a middle of the road guy. I agree with his position on most things or I can at least tolerate his point of view.
Nothing wrong with being a liberal or conservative for that matter. It’s the far leftists and far righties that are f’n up everything for everyone. I think most of us kinda fall somewhere in the middle depending on the subject.
Maybe I’m wrong though.
I am definitely not defending A. Jones here, but supposedly during that period of his life, he had some sort of mental breakdown from drug and alcohol abuse and simply went unhinged.
It isn’t an excuse and it was despicable, but that has been offered up as some reasoning behind that awfulness. Granted, I got that from Rogan, so do with that info what you wish.
Actually endorsed Bernie Sanders. Very big misconception by a ton of people. He is big into social programs and justice. Also, loves guns and freedom. It’s almost like he is in the middle like most of us.
I've heard all of Rogan's excuses. I do not believe him. Jones has always been an unhinged, hateful, conspiracy theory peddler. It didn't start with Newtown.
Why not give them the platform by which they will be condemned and ultimately held responsible? Isn't that what happened? Alex Jones libeled himself right out of millions of dollars. Stupid is as stupid does. Joe Rogan is an entertainment piece, nothing more and nothing less. Take the information provided at face value and move on.
I understand that being a line you don’t cross. And I understand why people hate Alex Jones. Fine.
But no, I don’t understand the hate Rogan receives. None of it is logical and is driven by emotion and disinformation
Exactly. Give everyone a platform. Jones, Hitler, Putin… let’s hear it. We’re all big boys, we can handle unpleasant ideas(well, most of us can). Let it all work itself out
There is no actual "left" or "right"...there is The Uni-Party, and their agenda, which is to divide us. They are succeeding.
Jones has his own damn show and brand. He has a platform. Nobody is taking his First Amendment rights away.
Would you listen to Joe Rogan if he had convicted pedophiles on his show? Do you think we should give pedophiles more of a platform? Because to me there's not a whole lot of difference on the scumbag scale between what pedophiles do and what Alex Jones did to the memories of those children at Sandy Hook and their families. It's hard to think of anything much worse.
I didn't say I agreed with him, but this is still America. For now anyway. Everyone has a right to be heard. Rogan believes that too. The only person I have heard him say he wouldn't have on is Trump. Not because of politics, but because he didn't think Trump would open up and answer questions honestly.
Exactly. Like the horse de-wormer thing. Imagine actually believing that.
Maybe, but you kind of make my point. Choosing to tune him out and not being allowed to hear him are two very different things.
That is exactly what you should do if you think Alex Jones is a monster. I may want to hear what he has to say. Neither of us is wrong.
Wouldn't know, don't pay attention to him or Joe Rogan or the mainstream media for that matter. It's just a bunch of half truths and outright lies to enrage society. If you don't like something, turn it off, don't respond and don't click on it. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, Tik-Toc, pretty much any social media platform and tons of manstream media sites are nothing more than outrage artists who want you to "look at me" for advertising dollars. It's nothing but a black hole that will swallow society whole if we let it. Unhook, unplug and you won't be unhinged.
Valid opinion, but that is a slippery slope. That's what we are seeing now with the whole "misinformation/disinformation" thing. Who decides how that is defined? I believe all information should be out there for us to decide how we feel about it short of obvious things, like how to make a nuclear weapon. I think what Alex Jones did was despicable. If you listened to him on Rogan's podcast, I think he feels that way now too. I am interested in hearing how that all came about.
No one is talking about Alex Jones' show or platform. We're talking about Rogan's show and platform and the suggestion he should or shouldn't have someone on. If you think him having Alex Jones on is somehow promoting his Sandy Hook conspiracy, you should probably listen. He had him on to talk about where he is now and how he has learned from that fiasco. I find that interesting and so did his subscribers. You have the option to tune out. Censorship is a cancer and as soon as we are OK with it, we are heading down a dark path.
Who are these far leftist and what are their ideas? I keep hearing about them every time someone wants to pretend to be even handed when defending the right wingers......
Mainstream media.....Mainstream media.....Jesus that is so played out.
As has already been pointed out multiple times, Alex Jones has his own show to spread his hate. He doesn't need another platform to amplify his ideology.
Well if you don't know, why are you weighing in? That information matters in this discussion.
Yeah but the constant barrage of attacks on Joe Rogan and TGP aren’t 🤣
You guys are just too much. Just so unaware
You have interesting people on your show that you interview, someone of which I don't agree with, and I believe have done bad things. Now I hate you!
Sounds so familiar in this day and age!
Sounds so familiar in this day and age!
The courts decided. It was Alex Jones who was spreading the lies. Pretty open and shut. Just like the election fraud lies, the courts decided all that was untrue as well.
There are very easy ways of knowing. Here's a pro tip: The side that openly uses the phrase "alternative facts" is the one spreading disinformation. There you go.
Who are they? The ones who push the items that most center minded folks think are extreme.
For example, there are not more than 2 genders. Those far left thinkers would argue that there are more than that and would argue it to their death bed.
Another example, those that are attempting to force us all to move to EVs by mandate even though it is factual that it requires more carbon production and essentially “slave labor” to produce the batteries for those cars than what they save. Not to mention the complete lack of ability of the grid to support such a mass change so quickly. Obviously, we could point out extremes on the right as well.
Not gonna debate this with you or anyone because we all know how that goes. My whole point is that most people fall very close to the center in their generic lives and don’t really have the “make a decision/argument just to “be right” versus doing what makes sense” mentality.
Actually I just listened to his reasoning the other day about Trump. He said he didn’t want to help him in anyway whatsoever. Said that Trump’s people had reached out to him multiple times. Same show where he talked about supporting Bernie Sanders.
