***Roe v Wade Overturned***

[clemmer]

I know why you think it is fair. Your votes counts 4 times what my vote counts. And when you factor in that SC is a welfare state that sucks off the government teet, funded by my tax dollars... something has to change.

Let me get this straight. Ill ignore the hypocrosy of Wall Street dollars being “yours”, and the great migration occurring.

So you are complaining about taxes and the redistribution of them.

Yet you choose to live in NY -which has implemented every tax ever thought of by man - and you support the party that promotes and enshrines this whole tax and redistribution system In the first place?

Okey Dokey Pokey.

 

[areeves]

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Strong, real strong:

"The Constitution makes no express reference to a right to obtain an abortion, and therefore those who claim that it protects such a right must show that the right is somehow implicit in the constitutional text.

The right to abortion does not fall within this category. Until the latter part of the 20th century, such a right was entirely unknown in American law. Indeed, when the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted, three quarters of the States made abortion a crime at all stages of pregnancy. The abortion right is also critically different from any other right that this Court has held to fall within the Fourteenth Amendment’s protection of “liberty.”

Roe’s defenders characterize the abortion right as similar to the rights recognized in past decisions involving matters such as intimate sexual relations, contraception, and marriage, but abortion is fundamentally different, as both Roe and Casey acknowledged, because it destroys what those decisions called “fetal life” and what the law now before us describes as an “unborn human being.”13 Stare decisis, the doctrine on which Casey’s controlling opinion was based, does not compel unending adherence to Roe’s abuse of judicial authority. Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences.

And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division. It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives. “The permissibility of abortion, and the limitations, upon it, are to be resolved like most important questions in our democracy: by citizens trying to persuade one another and then voting.” Casey, 505 U. S., at 979 (Scalia, J., concurring in judgment in part and dissenting in part). That is what the Constitution and the rule of law demand."

This was done to give them a reason to erect an unscalable fence around the Supreme Court Building, after the Justices receive death threats. Just Like they had an excuse to put an unscalable fence around the Capital Building, after they staged Trump supporters crashing the Capital Building. They know the people will come after them after they do what I’ve been describing. Go ahead, laugh, mock & scoff all you want, This Is The Truth!

 

[jakefest]

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Yep, so I think we can all agree that it's not white nationalists or right wing terrorists we have to worry about, right? Anyone want to do an over/under for how many of these posts we'll see over the next several weeks?











Insurrection or is this one ok because they don't agree with the ruling?

 

[jakefest]

you are smart enough to know what you wrote is absurd. I think!?

Just signed two leases for office space in Florida this month, one in Palm Beach and one in Miami. VIrtu, Citadel, Jump Trading, Goldman, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc all have opened front office offices in Florida over the last 12-18 months and we are being forced to be in the vicinity. Some have put operations in Texas as well, which is also making our location strategy harder.

I'm not saying everyone will leave NYC or Chicago but people are leaving NYC and Chicago. Miami could very well become the new center of the financial eco-system........much friendlier state for deal structure /laws and tax obligations.

 

[gardentiger]

it was the same under trump, obama, bush, Clinton, etc etc. my state has always subsidized yours. No matter how small you make the federal government, I will still be subsidizing it for you. You are a welfare baby. Just say thanks.

Are we including bank bailouts in your "math"?

 

[jakefest]

Goodness you have a child like view of the world. Awe yes let's have all the babies come to Belks for pictures with the bunnies.
The fact is that the elites won today. More workers to exploit for their profit. I understand and respect people's individual perspective on abortion. I myself would never. However, you fools seem to think your personal decisions should apply to everyone.

Wait, what? We just went through almost a 3 year cycle where all of America were told they didn't have personal choice over their bodies when they were forced to take an unproven vaccine. Hell, half of America cheered when people were being fired, socially canceled and ridiculed for suggesting it should be their choice.

Personally, I would have been fine if they didn't overturn Roe just as I would have been fine making the vaccine optional but anyone on here that claimed vaccines should be mandated but are also outraged over this ruling need to do a quick hypocrisy check.

 

[jakefest]

We know how the mob handles their business. Im sure death threats are gonna be coming strong for the justicies and their families.

You gotta love the smell of checks and balances in the morning though. Constitution is putting power back in the states hands instead of in the hands of the political elite in D.C.

This is exactly right. It actually puts the power back into the constituents hands at the state level as they can simply vote for the candidates that support their way of life. If you pay taxes and live in a state that creates laws that don't fit within your belief system, you can simply vote those lawmakers out or you can pick up and move to state that aligns closer to your values.

Smells like Freedom to me

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

you are a mortgage broker in Georgia. Why lie? And you have a really fat neck.

Un - Hinged

😂

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

Your personal attacks show your true character. Of course, the majority on this board already know. Keep being you 63%.

He’s a riot… wait, I mean… the fact he’s completely lost his cool is hilarious.

Look @ the way he acts.. and he hates Trump. I wonder is he has mirrors in his 7 houses?

 

[nytigerfan]

Let me get this straight. Ill ignore the hypocrosy of Wall Street dollars being “yours”, and the great migration occurring.

So you are complaining about taxes and the redistribution of them.

Yet you choose to live in NY -which has implemented every tax ever thought of by man - and you support the party that promotes and enshrines this whole tax and redistribution system In the first place?

Okey Dokey Pokey.

didn’t mention Wall Street, didnt mention local or state taxes. Good god man.

 

[nytigerfan]

Are we including bank bailouts in your "math"?

that’s not really relevant. You benefited from the bank bailouts just as much as I did, assuming you have investments. That was money pumped into multinational corporations. Not the local NY economy.

 

[nytigerfan]

Your personal attacks show your true character. Of course, the majority on this board already know. Keep being you 63%.

pointing out @Willence ‘s obesity was inappropriate. I admit that and I apologize to him.

But maybe you should take a minute and think about the fact that you hold an anonymous internet poster to a higher standard of “character” than the man you idolize on here frequently, your lord and savior Donny trump. sad!

 

[nytigerfan]

Just signed two leases for office space in Florida this month, one in Palm Beach and one in Miami. VIrtu, Citadel, Jump Trading, Goldman, JPM, Morgan Stanley etc all have opened front office offices in Florida over the last 12-18 months and we are being forced to be in the vicinity. Some have put operations in Texas as well, which is also making our location strategy harder.

I'm not saying everyone will leave NYC or Chicago but people are leaving NYC and Chicago. Miami could very well become the new center of the financial eco-system........much friendlier state for deal structure /laws and tax obligations.

this happened during Covid. A bunch of hedge fund guys moved to Florida. They could not wait to get back to Nyc. As one guy said “the problem with Florida is that you are in Florida.”

 

[Willence]

pointing out @Willence ‘s obesity was inappropriate. I admit that and I apologize to him.

But maybe you should take a minute and think about the fact that you hold an anonymous internet poster to a higher standard of “character” than the man you idolize on here frequently, your lord and savior Donny trump. sad!

That's okay. If I got my ass kicked in every argument the way you do I would probably have had someone personally too. Have a blessed day buddy!

 

[97ClemsonMac]

And now that we see the results, we will make sure you never get your way again. We have learned over the last 5 years that the party of "freedom" is the antithesis of that word.

This decision is literally freedom at its finest, putting the power back into the hands of voters at the state level as opposed to deciding at the SCOTUS.

How are you going to make sure we don’t get our way again? Doesn’t seem likely based on the current state of our country. The decision made in 2020 has proven to be a disaster, and I can assure you Americans will be voting based on their pockets in the next election. The radical far left that will gain some supporters from this SCOTUS decision will be negligible at best. Those that supported Roe have likely voted Democratic in the past already, I don’t see that base growing by a tremendous amount based on the decision.

 

[nytigerfan]

That's okay. If I got my ass kicked in every argument the way you do I would probably have had someone personally too. Have a blessed day buddy!

the fact that you actually believe what you just wrote is fascinating to me. You are the living embodiment of the Dunning Kruger Effect.

 

[nytigerfan]

This decision is literally freedom at its finest, putting the power back into the hands of voters at the state level as opposed to deciding at the SCOTUS.

How are you going to make sure we don’t get our way again? Doesn’t seem likely based on the current state of our country. The decision made in 2020 has proven to be a disaster, and I can assure you Americans will be voting based on their pockets in the next election. The radical far left that will gain some supporters from this SCOTUS decision will be negligible at best. Those that supported Roe have likely voted Democratic in the past already, I don’t see that base growing by a tremendous amount based on the decision.

what are your thoughts on the SCOTUS overrturning NYs concealed carry law. Is that freedom for the states?

this will impact the November elections more than you think.

 

[Solid Orange Blood]

what are your thoughts on the SCOTUS overrturning NYs concealed carry law. Is that freedom for the states?

this will impact the November elections more than you think.

This was a god awful argument pages ago and it's still just as awful.

 

[Willence]

the fact that you actually believe what you just wrote is fascinating to me. You are the living embodiment of the Dunning Kruger Effect.

Here we go with the pot and kettle again. It's remarkable how you can post so much without ever making a substantive argument. You just hurl insults and attacks. Almost never (giving credit that maybe I missed one) do you actually argue your point of view and try to win "hearts and minds" with facts for consideration. In the rare occasions you do use data, it comes from the standpoint of your inherent superiority due to your amazing income and status. But ultimately, it seems you devolve to statements like "you're dumb, you're stupid, you should say thanks for me paying your taxes, you're a nazi, you love Trump, etc." It's nauseating and I just have to believe under all that you do have something more to offer. There has to be some basis for your views, but you never share it. I guess that's why you post such inane things and constantly spend your time hurling attacks at people with little to no actual substance.

 

[nytigerfan]

Here we go with the pot and kettle again. It's remarkable how you can post so much without ever making a substantive argument. You just hurl insults and attacks. Almost never (giving credit that maybe I missed one) do you actually argue your point of view and try to win "hearts and minds" with facts for consideration. In the rare occasions you do use data, it comes from the standpoint of your inherent superiority due to your amazing income and status. But ultimately, it seems you devolve to statements like "you're dumb, you're stupid, you should say thanks for me paying your taxes, you're a nazi, you love Trump, etc." It's nauseating and I just have to believe under all that you do have something more to offer. There has to be some basis for your views, but you never share it. I guess that's why you post such inane things and constantly spend your time hurling attacks at people with little to no actual substance.

settle down, i already apologized for calling you a fat.

lol at winning hearts and minds. Is that what you think you are doing here?

you think my arguments lack substance because I don’t agree with you. I clearly defined my thoughts in my first post on this thread. You don’t agree, that’s fine. Time will tell.

See, you have been indoctrinated to certain belief system since birth. I chose a different path. I was indoctrinated with all the same shit: conservativism, go to church, etc. but I ventured out into the world. I lived in other countries. I got different perspectives. I thought for myself.

 

[Willence]

A couple of points...

1. That November red wave just evaporated. The dems were already out fundraising replublicans, that gap is only going to increase now. Follow the money.

2. Curious how the folk in southern states are planning to enforce these new laws? Yall are all about not having the gubment interfere in your life. Are you now going to be all for law enforcement violating doctor-patient confidentiality? How about forcing women to publicize their menstrual cycles? Or are you going to go the TX route and pay citizens to spy in other citizens and turn them in, with or without actual proof?

3. Interesting that this SCOTUS saw the ability to conceal carry as a federal issue, but abortion rights as a states issue.

4. See Clarence Thomas's opinion. He is already urging the court to go after gay marriage and contraception. This ain't over.

You call this an argument? These are random points based on what exactly? Some twitter posts by loons? You are posting leftist feedback (which you probably read somewhere like Salon) without any attempt whatsoever at understanding the Constitutional argument behind all this. Justice Thomas isn't saying he wants to get rid of gay marriage, contraception, etc. He's saying how it was ruled on leaves it vulnerable because it was a very bad ruling. This is correct. Instead of the approach of creating things in the court, we should instead create them through the law. It's difficult to understand how something like this can be so confusing to folks like you. Probably because Constitutional law requires actual thought outside of a bubble.

As for the rest of your highly insulting post ( notice, you never miss an opportunity to call me fat as though that's some horrible thing. I can lose weight but you'll still be you! ). It'd be a waste of time but I am willing to make data/information based arguments on any point you could try to make. I've lived my life in many parts of this country and investigated all sorts of things. Maybe you missed it but as I said, my core viewpoint is that if something I believe can't be challenged and I can't defend it without turning to insults then I am probably wrong. Hence most every thing I believe is battle-tested and found to be strong.

And yes, I know for a fact that some things that people say here have come to influence others. There's never a bad time to make a good argument. There's never a bad time to talk to each other with respect and consideration for all the different paths we all take in life. Growing up in Columbia, Maryland taught me that. Perhaps you should try more of that. Your "world experience" has taught you to be a bigot and an elitist ass. Not much more than that.

 

[ctcseb]

I think an important consideration missing from this thread needs to be brought up:






Sorry, couldn’t resist 🤣

 

[nytigerfan]

You call this an argument? These are random points based on what exactly? Some twitter posts by loons? You are posting leftist feedback (which you probably read somewhere like Salon) without any attempt whatsoever at understanding the Constitutional argument behind all this. Justice Thomas isn't saying he wants to get rid of gay marriage, contraception, etc. He's saying how it was ruled on leaves it vulnerable because it was a very bad ruling. This is correct. Instead of the approach of creating things in the court, we should instead create them through the law. It's difficult to understand how something like this can be so confusing to folks like you. Probably because Constitutional law requires actual thought outside of a bubble.

As for the rest of your highly insulting post ( notice, you never miss an opportunity to call me fat as though that's some horrible thing. I can lose weight but you'll still be you! ). It'd be a waste of time but I am willing to make data/information based arguments on any point you could try to make. I've live my life in many parts of this country and investigated all sorts of things. Maybe you missed it but as I said, my core viewpoint is that if something I believe can't be challenged and I can't defend it without turning to insults then I am probably wrong. Hence most every thing I believe is battle-tested and found to be strong.

And yes, I know for a fact that some things that people say here have come to influence others. There's never a bad time to make a good argument. There's never a bad time to talk to each other with respect and consideration for all the different paths we all take in life. Growing up in Columbia, Maryland taught me that. Perhaps you should try more of that. Your "world experience" has taught you to be a bigot and an elitist ass. Not much more than that.

i don’t read Salon or twitter, those thoughts were my own. You can disagree, that’s fine. But you don’t disagree without coming off as a pompous ass. For all of the things you accuse me of, you should really look into the mirror.

can’t wait to see how these laws are enforced. For a guy who doesn’t like government intrusion into your life, I assume you don’t like it in your wife or daughters?

i will keep being me, and loving every day of it my man. Every day is long and filled with amazing moments.

 

[Cocks are Number 1]

i don’t read Salon or twitter, those thoughts were my own. You can disagree, that’s fine. But you don’t disagree without coming off as a pompous ass. For all of the things you accuse me of, you should really look into the mirror.

can’t wait to see how these laws are enforced. For a guy who doesn’t like government intrusion into your life, I assume you don’t like it in your wife or daughters?

i will keep being me, and loving every day of it my man. Every day is long and filled with amazing moments.

You never fail to deliver. Please read what you just typed. 😂

That melatonin must’ve had a harsh side effect last night, as you came unglued. Funny how now you’re getting called out, you run for the hills.

 

[Howard's Jock]

lol vintage TI right here

 

[dpic73]

This decision is literally freedom at its finest, putting the power back into the hands of voters at the state level as opposed to deciding at the SCOTUS.

How are you going to make sure we don’t get our way again? Doesn’t seem likely based on the current state of our country. The decision made in 2020 has proven to be a disaster, and I can assure you Americans will be voting based on their pockets in the next election. The radical far left that will gain some supporters from this SCOTUS decision will be negligible at best. Those that supported Roe have likely voted Democratic in the past already, I don’t see that base growing by a tremendous amount based on the decision.

Just watch

 

[Solid Orange Blood]

Just watch

You need to speak to a professional. Seriously.

 

[Willence]

i don’t read Salon or twitter, those thoughts were my own. You can disagree, that’s fine. But you don’t disagree without coming off as a pompous ass. For all of the things you accuse me of, you should really look into the mirror.

can’t wait to see how these laws are enforced. For a guy who doesn’t like government intrusion into your life, I assume you don’t like it in your wife or daughters?

i will keep being me, and loving every day of it my man. Every day is long and filled with amazing moments.

It's like I've told you in the past. Once a person comes to the point they are convinced an unborn child is a human life, you can't agree with abortion under any circumstances save for the life of the mother or an already lifeless baby in the womb.

I don't want to monitor what people do. In order to make your points, so often you will take things to the extreme to try and show how nefarious things can be. Mind you, as people who enjoy and care about politics, we could both play that game to ridiculous extremes. I am far more interested in the middle 60-70% in this country. The extreme 10-20% on each side should not be the focus of attacks from either side. Those folks have always existed and will always exist. There's a very reasonable middle in this country and we need to try and find ways to work together knowing we're never going to agree on everything. Some give and take is required to do anything.

I'm sure we are both pompous asses to one another. We've had some very heated disagreements and while I can't speak for you, I can say I'm not entirely proud of the way I conduct myself at times. Perhaps we could both tone it down a bit and discuss things in more substantive ways when occasion permits. But you also must recognize you come with both barrels most of the time and you are very dismissive of any view that isn't your own. I realize I can be the same way and I'll commit myself to working on that when it comes to us disagreeing. It would be nice to lower the temperature in this area. I apologize for the nasty things I have said to you. I will refrain from such things in the future. Whether you choose to do the same is up to you but I hope you will.

Have a great day!

 

[JoeBidenSniffsKids]

Agreed, I too am hoping for no violence tonight. At least we don't have to worry about them attacking the capitol, that's a right side thing... you know. Mob rule with no rebuke from their leadership...

You must have missed the part where he told the crowd to march to the capitol peacefully

Or you know he said it but want to run with a bullshit narrative because you’re a douche

 

[JoeBidenSniffsKids]

Can someone who knows Dpic personally call and check on him? I’m starting to get worried

@nytigerfan @iceheart08 @DW4_2016

 

[tigerGUY]

We know how the mob handles their business. Im sure death threats are gonna be coming strong for the justicies and their families.

You gotta love the smell of checks and balances in the morning though. Constitution is putting power back in the states hands instead of in the hands of the political elite in D.C.

Might not be a bad time to push our Governors to come together for a real Constitutional change with an Amendment to limit Federal term limits.

 

[JoeBidenSniffsKids]

Yep, so I think we can all agree that it's not white nationalists or right wing terrorists we have to worry about, right? Anyone want to do an over/under for how many of these posts we'll see over the next several weeks?

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Insurrection or is this one ok because they don't agree with the ruling?

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Ahh deja vu

More mostly peaceful protests by left wing extremists. Can’t wait for the usual suspects to come in and tell us there’s nothing to see here

 

[gardentiger]

that’s not really relevant. You benefited from the bank bailouts just as much as I did, assuming you have investments. That was money pumped into multinational corporations. Not the local NY economy.

Multibillionaire s most definitely help the local economy. The Cantillion effect is a fact.

 

[dpic73]

Can someone who knows Dpic personally call and check on him? I’m starting to get worried

@nytigerfan @iceheart08 @DW4_2016

No need to check in on me Sniffles, I'm enjoying the hell out of this summer. Went to Lake Lure/Hendersonville for four days last week, going to Cancun in a couple weeks and then Europe in August. This message board isn't my life but I'll make sure I keep popping in often enough to piss you off. Btw, you really need to get an "oh the irony" button for your keyboard so you won't have to type so much!

 

[CUT93]

no man. you didnt really read that article?

Quoted from the article:
Under the new language, a “person shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability or penalty, or otherwise deprived of their rights, based on their actions or omissions with respect to their pregnancy or actual, potential, or alleged pregnancy outcome, including miscarriage, stillbirth, or abortion, or perinatal death.”

thats the literal language of the bill. quoted in your article. where in that language does it suggest anything that you were suggesting, or that this article is suggesting? throwing babies into trashcans? "killing" babies after months of being alive. come on man. it doesnt. plainly. this isn't a matter of interpretation. it just doesn't.

Per the cdc, perinatal death is "late fetal death at 28 weeks or more and early neonatal death under age 7 days"

 

[CUT93]

I know why you think it is fair. Your votes counts 4 times what my vote counts. And when you factor in that SC is a welfare state that sucks off the government teet, funded by my tax dollars... something has to change.

If dems had to support all dem voters, they would go broke quickly.

 

[iceheart08]

Per the cdc, perinatal death is "late fetal death at 28 weeks or more and early neonatal death under age 7 days"

so your response to me saying that you and the article are making shit up is to find the definition of perinatal death that supports my argument?

It means that a baby could die (read: NOT BE KILLED OR ABORTED) up to 7 days after birth, and thats a condition called perinatal death. You said people were throwing living babies in trashcans, and the idiot in the story said the law would allow people to murder babies months after birth. both of which are PLAINLY NOT SUPPORTED by the law.

please please stop with the idiocy. we can have a serious conversation about viability and access to abortion without the unbelievable hypberolic and outright wrong article you posted. just stop.

 

[CUT93]

what are your thoughts on the SCOTUS overrturning NYs concealed carry law. Is that freedom for the states?

this will impact the November elections more than you think.

The thought is that constitutional amendments apply to all states. That is what scotus does, just fyi. it is their job to maintain/defend the constitution and let states handle matters that are no constitutional matters- such as abortion.

 

[Willence]

After the ruling: Americans ask Google how to move to Canada

Abortion is legal at all stages of pregnancy in Canada.

www.axios.com

Hope they follow through!

 

[jakefest]

this happened during Covid. A bunch of hedge fund guys moved to Florida. They could not wait to get back to Nyc. As one guy said “the problem with Florida is that you are in Florida.”

Still happening now. Those firms had temp/contingency openings during Covid, some took over entire floors of hotels. It's now becoming permanent with even Goldman who are close to being production ready at a huge office space in Florida and giving traders the option where they want to trade from.

Location strategy data points to execs leaving Manhattan and the younger, earlier career folks that want the city life remaining. Who pays more in taxes, the execs or the early career folks?