Columbia Activist Arrested by ICE at His Appointment for Citizenship
Mohsen Mahdawi, a legal permanent resident, has lived in the United States for 10 years and was arrested in Vermont. He has not been charged with a crime.www.nytimes.com
Not a citizen and doesn't have full constitutional protections. Marco Rubio can remove these people by decree. You guys need to come back and pull for the home team again at some point.
I hate the first amendment too. We should be deporting anyone who doesn’t agree with us.
We should not give radical muslim activists a platform over here in the US to cause trouble. No reason to have them here in that scenario.
I agree. Like I said if they don’t agree with us deport them.
What constitutional protections do you think he has?
They can go back to their home country and speak their mind there.
This makes me sad to see from a free speech purist as I previously thought you were.
None of them care about free speech. They’ve never cared about it.
Our citizens get free speech.
Not much. Rubio sending them packing and that's a fact.
The only speech they care about protecting is that which agrees with their insular worldview.
That’s not the constitution tho.
You do you Growls. Your lack of empathy recently makes me sad. Not that you care.
I care about American citizens. I can't invest emotional energy worrying about illegals that come in here to break the law and collect welfare.
Some of them are. Some are flat out animals without a soul. It's not our obligation to just let them stay and be citizens because an NGO took stolen taxpayer funds and paid for them to come here with promises galore. This is real life and the gig is up. They need to leave and then try to come back again in a legal manner at some point down the road.
I agree. Just my opinion, which I realize is probably worth less than $.02 😂
I at no point in time have tried to say violent criminals (or even just criminals period) should just be allowed to stay. But every single person is afforded due process by the constitution, that is all I ask for. At the end of that due process, I support whatever the outcome is, which for criminals I believe should be deportation, and illegals as well provided they don't have a real claim to asylum etc.
With the way our constitution is written, is it your position that if a person can somehow make it onto land in America, even through unlawful or inhumane means, they should have the same rights and benefits and access to programs as a natural born citizen? If so, that’s most likely the issue between the sides.
Appreciate you acknowledging that. And I don't value my own opinion that much either lol
You don’t agree with the constitution. That’s a you problem. Take it up with the founders, who you seem to disagree with.
Yes, that is definitely what I said. Every right. Every program. Every benefit. Absolutely trying to make that argument.
Did I say that or did I ask him a question and offer a possible explanation?
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying. And who is responsible for the programs and benefits? Is there a numerical limit of people that can come?
Well, I guess I jumped to that conclusion given your tendency to support this admin's decisions at every turn. Just replace "you" with "MAGA" in my statement, and the point stands.
I was pretty clearly being sarcastic as that wasn't at all what I said. You just took what I said and ran with it to mean whatever it is on the other side you want to be upset about.
Am I not asking reasonable questions? Not arguing, trying to understand your thought process. I think I read yesterday if every immigrant that came in the last four years had a trial it would completely crush our judicial system and cause a major backlog on top of costing taxpayers billions. I think common sense folks would say that we don’t want our courts bogged down with that but what do I know. It’s complicated. What is your solution? If they can’t be sent back do they all go to trial?
Sorry but its just what the constitution says. They are afforded due process. Full stop. Not all services, not all benefits. They don't get to vote, and many other rights only afforded citizens. But due process is every person. I agree the courts are a mess. Was an absolute key piece of the bipartisan immigration law that Trump killed. More judges etc to speed things along. I would be open to many ideas. But removing due process, allowing the government to sweep people up, claim they are a gang member and ship them to a prison camp without a chance to defend themselves isn't one of them.
And just like that you got on the saddle of fascism. We tried to warn you, but you told us we were just emotional libs. Turns out we were more American all along.
Yep, for sure. We've got ICE agents showing up in unmarked cars, wearing masks and literally pulling people (granted... suspected of being illegal immigrants) off the street and taking them 100s of miles away from there and refusing to tell where they are. That's the way the US does business now. Donald Trump won and this is who we are as a country.
