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Seriously, how can anyone support this?

literally you again just douche canoe your way into whataboutism and tribalism. A sane and respectable person would stop with past grievances and call for justice in the face of tyranny. You are played like a fiddle.

I'll give you an example: I totally didn't support Biden running again for various reasons none of us have discussed here. I definitely didn't want to vote for Kamala and thought there were better candidates out there. You spend all your time on here projecting issues on to others in an attempt to shield the fact that you don't want to even consider or question the current administrations bad actions. That makes you a chump.
You are damn right I’m going to whataboutism.

Democrats ruled like assholes.

We are onto the game. You guys tried to put the leading presidential candidate in jail. But now you want to play pillow fight.

I started a thread, If you come for the King you best not missed. You missed. And now the dems are paying the price. No crying in the Casino.

We are just getting started.
 
You are damn right I’m going to whataboutism.

Democrats ruled like assholes.

We are onto the game. You guys tried to put the leading presidential candidate in jail. But now you want to play pillow fight.

I started a thread, If you come for the King you best not missed. You missed. And now the dems are paying the price. No crying in the Casino.

We are just getting started.
I didn't try to put him in jail. He did crimes and got convicted of them. What the literal **** does that have to do with me personally you absolute weirdo goon?
If you are just getting started, I expect to see you goose stepping in the streets soon while chanting Heil Trump.
I didn't plan or encourage anyone to attempt assassination on President Trump. Your anger is misplaced and you are just a base instinct reptilian brained fool incapable of actual empathy or understanding.

Stop projecting your grievances on me you dummy.
 
Pretty laughable read of the situation, but you do you TG.
There’s probably 5 posts on this board with that insinuated verbiage. Literally verbatim saying stuff like that tweet. Right here on this stupid board. How’s it laughable? Are you saying that it’s laughable that liberals are whining about actual real asylum seekers from SA because if so I’ll agree. But I don’t think that’s what you’re doing here.
 
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There’s probably 5 posts on this board with that insinuated verbiage. Literally verbatim saying stuff like that tweet. Right here on this stupid board. How’s it laughable? Are you saying that it’s laughable that liberals are whining about actual real asylum seekers from SA because if so I’ll agree. But I don’t think that’s what you’re doing here.
Don't believe your lying eyes
 
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There’s probably 5 posts on this board with that insinuated verbiage. Literally verbatim saying stuff like that tweet. Right here on this stupid board. How’s it laughable? Are you saying that it’s laughable that liberals are whining about actual real asylum seekers from SA because if so I’ll agree. But I don’t think that’s what you’re doing here.
Plenty of people are fleeing to the US from violence and oppression in South America. Republicans just don’t seem to care about them. They do seem to give a shit about these white farmers, though.

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Plenty of people are fleeing to the US from violence and oppression in South America. Republicans just don’t seem to care about them. They do seem to give a shit about these white farmers, though.

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Exactly. The optics are just awful.

I'm actually fine with the South Africans coming here, I'm also totally fine with South Americans coming here to protect their families from violence. I'm pretty consistent about my thoughts.
 
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There’s probably 5 posts on this board with that insinuated verbiage. Literally verbatim saying stuff like that tweet. Right here on this stupid board. How’s it laughable? Are you saying that it’s laughable that liberals are whining about actual real asylum seekers from SA because if so I’ll agree. But I don’t think that’s what you’re doing here.
Can you share someone on this board being PRO-MS-13? Not pro due process and making sure they actually aren't here legally and are criminals prior to deporting. But pro-MS-13? Because the argument that tweet is making just isn't a thing.
 
Can you share someone on this board being PRO-MS-13? Not pro due process and making sure they actually aren't here legally and are criminals prior to deporting. But pro-MS-13? Because the argument that tweet is making just isn't a thing.
If you’re not going to agree they need to be vetted then we will never agree.
 
Plenty of people are fleeing to the US from violence and oppression in South America. Republicans just don’t seem to care about them. They do seem to give a shit about these white farmers, though.

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Possibly, I’m just asking for a specific example of one that’s comparable to the 50 genocide race fueled hate videos from SA. Just one. Libs don’t give a shit about real persecution because of race. Open the door for 10 million unvetted but slam it on 60 people that actually have an asylum claim.
 
Possibly, I’m just asking for a specific example of one that’s comparable to the 50 genocide race fueled hate videos from SA. Just one. Libs don’t give a shit about real persecution because of race. Open the door for 10 million unvetted but slam it on 60 people that actually have an asylum claim.

Dude... You've got to calm down some. As pointed out by another poster, you are projecting with a very large brush on all who have an issue with the policy. Nobody on here liked the immigration policies of the Biden Admin. All have said multiple times that they wished they would have taken a more agreeive approach.

There were multiple people who were here legally due to exactly this type of persecution and violence threats who have been deported wrongfully. That's not debatable and has been admitted by the current government.

That's why suddenly allowing these white South Africans is giving many a bad taste in their mouths. It just has really bad optics, particularly when you throw in some of the hateful rhetoric being used to paint all immigrants from South America.
 
Possibly, I’m just asking for a specific example of one that’s comparable to the 50 genocide race fueled hate videos from SA. Just one. Libs don’t give a shit about real persecution because of race. Open the door for 10 million unvetted but slam it on 60 people that actually have an asylum claim.
Okay. The below is based on data collected between 1 October 2024 and 31 January 2025 across nine countries in Latin America: Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Panama, Peru, and Venezuela.

The quantitative data includes survey results from over 20 locations within these countries, encompassing 3,611 households and representing 11,172 people in total. The qualitative data is derived from 138 key informant interviews, focus groups and direct observation reports. The data was collected by NRC, the Danish Refugee Council (DRC), Encuentros SJM, Alianza Vencer and Corporación Colectiva Justicia Mujer.


 
Possibly, I’m just asking for a specific example of one that’s comparable to the 50 genocide race fueled hate videos from SA. Just one. Libs don’t give a shit about real persecution because of race. Open the door for 10 million unvetted but slam it on 60 people that actually have an asylum claim.

I guess my question is, do you really think Trump did this whole charade out of the goodness of his heart? Honestly? He purposely allowed refugees, that were all white and Elon's countrymen, and paraded them around in the midst of deporting millions of people of color. He did it on purpose. Whether you want to say he did it because he's racist (like the left), or cuz he's a troll, or whatever excuse you want to make for him, I don't really think you can say he did it altruistically.

And do you honestly believe these white South Africans are suffering more than other asylum seekers? Or refugees from other countries? The article from @WapPride below is one of thousands about poor refugees and asylum seekers who I'm sure would've loved the red carpet rolled out for them.

This isn't hard, the dems aren't "race baiting," this isn't reverse racism. He knew what he was doing and did it on purpose. Just call a spade a spade.

Okay. The below is based on data collected between 1 October 2024 and 31 January 2025 across nine countries in Latin America: Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Panama, Peru, and Venezuela.

The quantitative data includes survey results from over 20 locations within these countries, encompassing 3,611 households and representing 11,172 people in total. The qualitative data is derived from 138 key informant interviews, focus groups and direct observation reports. The data was collected by NRC, the Danish Refugee Council (DRC), Encuentros SJM, Alianza Vencer and Corporación Colectiva Justicia Mujer.


 
I guess my question is, do you really think Trump did this whole charade out of the goodness of his heart? Honestly? He purposely allowed refugees, that were all white and Elon's countrymen, and paraded them around in the midst of deporting millions of people of color. He did it on purpose. Whether you want to say he did it because he's racist (like the left), or cuz he's a troll, or whatever excuse you want to make for him, I don't really think you can say he did it altruistically.

And do you honestly believe these white South Africans are suffering more than other asylum seekers? Or refugees from other countries? The article from @WapPride below is one of thousands about poor refugees and asylum seekers who I'm sure would've loved the red carpet rolled out for them.

This isn't hard, the dems aren't "race baiting," this isn't reverse racism. He knew what he was doing and did it on purpose. Just call a spade a spade.
None of that is relevant. Why can’t you guys just say, hey an entire stadium full of people screaming to execute all the white people is wrong. A government promoting that in its version of congress is wrong. You can’t even do something so basic as to recognize this as what it is, pure hatred. Instead you are trying to pivot to a completely unrelated issue of why? Who cares why trumps doing anything. This is wrong. Full stop. I can’t take you guys seriously bc you are not consistent. I can’t imagine the outrage if this was a video of a soccer stadium full of white people in Germany screaming to execute the browns. You promote hate.
 
None of that is relevant. Why can’t you guys just say, hey an entire stadium full of people screaming to execute all the white people is wrong. A government promoting that in its version of congress is wrong. You can’t even do something so basic as to recognize this as what it is, pure hatred. Instead you are trying to pivot to a completely unrelated issue of why? Who cares why trumps doing anything. This is wrong. Full stop. I can’t take you guys seriously bc you are not consistent. I can’t imagine the outrage if this was a video of a soccer stadium full of white people in Germany screaming to execute the browns. You promote hate.

This is a perfect example of the biggest complaints guys have made about you. You are arguing a point nobody has made, while completely ignoring the actual argument.

Nobody thinks it's OK to threaten White Farmers. Full Stop. The complaint is that it looks really bad when Trump is intentionally deporting others who are here legally due to similar complaints who happen to be Hispanic.

Do you not agree that it's a bad look?
 
This is a perfect example of the biggest complaints guys have made about you. You are arguing a point nobody has made, while completely ignoring the actual argument.

Nobody thinks it's OK to threaten White Farmers. Full Stop. The complaint is that it looks really bad when Trump is intentionally deporting others who are here legally due to similar complaints who happen to be Hispanic.

Do you not agree that it's a bad look?
No I don’t. I have no problem with giving them asylum. It’s obvious they qualify. This is a very specific example. To try and relate this to 10-15 million unvetted people is dumb.

The problem is you all see everything through this progressive racist perspective. I don’t. I look at the situation not the color of the skin. Like I said. If the roles were reversed in the SA situation I’d feel the same.
 
No I don’t. I have no problem with giving them asylum. It’s obvious they qualify. This is a very specific example. To try and relate this to 10-15 million unvetted people is dumb.

The problem is you all see everything through this progressive racist perspective. I don’t. I look at the situation not the color of the skin. Like I said. If the roles were reversed in the SA situation I’d feel the same.
It literally is the same for many of those who have been deported.

I never said all.

You are willfully ignoring what has been presented to you.

Come on, you are smarter than this.
 
No I don’t. I have no problem with giving them asylum. It’s obvious they qualify. This is a very specific example. To try and relate this to 10-15 million unvetted people is dumb.

The problem is you all see everything through this progressive racist perspective. I don’t. I look at the situation not the color of the skin. Like I said. If the roles were reversed in the SA situation I’d feel the same.
I'm not sure how many times we've illustrated the bolded is inaccurate, but your continued insistence to peddle in misinformation to try and make a point makes it seem like you don't have any interest in good faith discussions.
 
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I'm not sure how many times we've illustrated the bolded is inaccurate, but your continued insistence to peddle in misinformation to try and make a point makes it seem like you don't have any interest in good faith discussions.
I’ll just use millions from now on. The fact that you’ll take data from our government as gospel troubles me. We know they lie about everything. There’s zero benefit to the previous administration to inflate the numbers and they are coming up with 6-8 million. Again it’s semantics to dismiss my point.
 
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It literally is the same for many of those who have been deported.

I never said all.

You are willfully ignoring what has been presented to you.

Come on, you are smarter than this.
Wrong. These people are apparently going through the steps to make this happen albeit possibly with some help. The folks flooding the border illegally and wreaking havoc all over the country are not. Just do it the right way. Same rules for everyone. I would be pissed if there was a government in Central America was attempting to genocide an entire race and we didn’t step in. That’s what we should be doing.

Edit: I agree that there’s most likely real asylum seekers among the ones here illegally. But I understand the reaction because there was no intention to keep anyone out. That’s what’s happening now. This is a reaction to the previous administrations policy and you guys should understand that.
 
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None of that is relevant. Why can’t you guys just say, hey an entire stadium full of people screaming to execute all the white people is wrong. A government promoting that in its version of congress is wrong. You can’t even do something so basic as to recognize this as what it is, pure hatred. Instead you are trying to pivot to a completely unrelated issue of why? Who cares why trumps doing anything. This is wrong. Full stop. I can’t take you guys seriously bc you are not consistent. I can’t imagine the outrage if this was a video of a soccer stadium full of white people in Germany screaming to execute the browns. You promote hate.
Its clearly wrong. No one disputes that.

But its a drop in the bucket compared to the racism seen worldwide, and classism seen worldwide, etc. So why choose them of all the asylum seekers?

And the direct race issue in America, whether you believe it still exists or not, was from White People TO people of color. If it exists here in the reverse (ala people of color being racist towards white people), it certainly doesn't in the form of laws, legislation, etc. like it did for centuries here against people of color. The context is different, and the context always matter.

To then parade that specific form of racism, black people against white people, as a troll to your political enemies in the context of the U.S. is truly disgraceful. Especially with the past that South Africa has, Elon's family's role in it, etc.

I don't know how much more it needs to be spelled out- you can disagree with this take, but no one is down playing anything nor ignoring anything.
 
There’s probably 5 posts on this board with that insinuated verbiage. Literally verbatim saying stuff like that tweet. Right here on this stupid board. How’s it laughable? Are you saying that it’s laughable that liberals are whining about actual real asylum seekers from SA because if so I’ll agree. But I don’t think that’s what you’re doing here.
You’re in a cult…seek objective truth…it does exist.
 
They did. Republicans refused to vote for it.
That's what you believe. The bill would have allowed 5,000 extra illegals per day before the gates were shut.

We all know you support that. I'm just wondering how many of them you're willing to keep up/provide for at your place.

I already know the answer.....ZERO! You bleeding heart liberals love to say you are trying to fixing a problem, but your only answer is to make it worse.

I'm all about you supporting the illegals (They aren't just black/brown people. They are people from all over the planet who came here because Joe told them they could.)

You're more than welcome to put them up at your house, but we all know that won't ever be happening. We have enough free loaders that are American citizens. We don't need thousands/millions more.

Put your money where your big ass mouth is. Start sponsoring some of these people and give them a place to live.

Until then, shut your pie hole.
 
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It's almost like there could be unintended consequences of leaving the border wide open. Who could have seen that one coming?

This lies at the Biden administrations feet.

Just piss poor governing from Democrats.
Just piss poor governing from Democrats.

Or was it? Let everyone in. Let them vote without having any voter ID. It's pretty diabolical if you ask me.
 
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The immigration bill that failed would have allowed illegal immigration to continue up to a certain threshold. Trump reduced it to numbers far below that bill. Looks like republicans were right to squash it. Trump did a much better job.

The proper number of illegal entries is 0
The proper number of illegal entries is 0

EXACTLY!
 
can you find me a single reputable source for that number or you just going by vibes?

Going to take more than feeling to convince me 1 of 8 people here are illegal.

And I would support legislation to get more money and manpower if that is what is needed.
NO you wouldn't. Right now they're only going after the worst of the worst, and your party doesn't want that either. They're fighting against in tooth, and nail.
 
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These racists that he is bringing over, or at least a large group of them, are interested in creating a white state within SA. These are good ole fashion white robe wearers to their core. This unholy fusion of Christianity and Nationalism has taken this country to a place our fore fathers warned about and even GWB could see as one of the biggest pitfalls we could face.
 
NO you wouldn't. Right now they're only going after the worst of the worst, and your party doesn't want that either. They're fighting against in tooth, and nail.
But like, I would though. I am not against deporting illegals through the legal process to remove them. Been pretty consistent about that. I know it's easier to argue against the most extreme position of the opposing party though.
 
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But like, I would though. I am not against deporting illegals through the legal process to remove them. Been pretty consistent about that. I know it's easier to argue against the most extreme position of the opposing party though.
You've proven to be moderate in your views (I'll give you that), but the party you support is not.
 
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