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Should Clemson drop the "Homecoming" game moniker?

Now I'm all for getting rid of the band. I just think it's time has passed. It's a turn of the century spectacle that is obsolete. I mean, does anyone bring their tailgate horse and cart to the game??? With video graphics and our house PA system, there is no reason to keep it.

I'm a music person, but I think much like the way of chamber music, marching bands have had their day. It's time to move on.
 
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Now I'm all for getting rid of the band. I just think it's time has passed. It's a turn of the century spectacle that is obsolete. I mean, does anyone bring their tailgate horse and cart to the game??? With video graphics and our house PA system, there is no reason to keep it.

I'm a music person, but I think much like the way of chamber music, marching bands have had their day. It's time to move on.

BELIEVE ME, THINGS ARE HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES TO PHASE OUT THE BAND. WILL PROB TAKE A FEW YEARS
 
@Transference, I have a different idea. I say start making homecoming games against bigger opponents. Lville would have been an AWESOME homecoming.

This. The whole point of "homecoming" is to welcome alumni back, and the games like Louisville, Notre Dame, UGA, etc. wind up being de facto homecomings anyways.
 
For all you guys complaining about losing a "tradition", is it really a Clemson tradition if 100's of other schools also do it? Furthermore, were you guys complaining when Dabo added All In or Tiger Walk to the Clemson traditions? How about the slow fade out of the "Woo Hoo" or taking buses around the stadium instead walking down from Fike?

The "its our tradition" argument doesn't hold water here.
 
but as a leader in CFB Clemson could make a change to get rid of an old "tradition" that has run its course of relevance.
Where have you been the past 50 + years. We are on a run and Clemson I dare say it will not always be "a leader in CFB".

Let's get rid of an old "tradition" and do away with our rivalry game right now because we are going to kill them in the upcoming games. They pull down our sos and soon nobody will care.
 
No, I understand a lot of other colleges do it, but as a leader in CFB Clemson could make a change to get rid of an old "tradition" that has run its course of relevance.

This is a lot like the marching band issue in that we keep having one despite it adding nothing to the gameday experience, though that problem adds a substantial cost (opportunity and real) that could be allocated elsewhere.

Homecoming is a tradition in my family, and in many seasons it's the only game our entire family manages to go to together. I don't think it has "run its course of relevance" for me, and for thousands of other Clemson fans. I could be wrong.

The floats are awesome, seeing old friends from college is a blast, and while typing this I just now realized you said the band "add(s) nothing to the gameday experience?" WTF??? I don't care if you're trolling or not, I'm gonna bite: Tiger Rag? Orange Bowl March? Even the third down defense song which is sneakily catchy? You really are some kind of troll...
 
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It's a high school tradition to try and lure people to a Friday night game against a shitty opponent, and is normally accompanied by "dress up" days during the week and an awkward dance that only the weird kids go to.

Clemson is a program that's at the pinnacle of CFB while being steeped in rich traditions and can pack the stadium out no matter the opponent. Do we really need to keep having "Homecoming" games?
Did you go to Clemson or have a greater connection than just being a football fan? I only ask because if you didn't, and don't have a connection beyond just watching football games like an NFL fan, then it would make sense why you don't get the concept of homecoming.

If you don't have a connection to Clemson beyond football, you probably aren't familiar with all of the pageantry of homecoming week nor the purpose it serves which is to reunite the Clemson family that has becoming displaced and celebrate old memories, reunite old friends, and reconnect with the university. Homecoming is a lot more than just a scheme to lure people to " attend a game against a crappy opponent". The football game is just a small part. I sense you are only looking at it through the sense of a football fan.

To you it may just be a label on a football game, but it's much more than that. A whole lot more.
 
It's a high school tradition to try and lure people to a Friday night game against a shitty opponent, and is normally accompanied by "dress up" days during the week and an awkward dance that only the weird kids go to.

Clemson is a program that's at the pinnacle of CFB while being steeped in rich traditions and can pack the stadium out no matter the opponent. Do we really need to keep having "Homecoming" games?

WTF
 
It's a high school tradition to try and lure people to a Friday night game against a shitty opponent, and is normally accompanied by "dress up" days during the week and an awkward dance that only the weird kids go to.

Clemson is a program that's at the pinnacle of CFB while being steeped in rich traditions and can pack the stadium out no matter the opponent. Do we really need to keep having "Homecoming" games?

Do you even Bowman Field?
 
I usually like your posts. But you are waaaay off here. Homecoming is a time for getting together with old friends, walking around the campus/floats, and entertaining the kids. I don't want my kids at a BIG game. In general, I want them at a game that I can barely pay attention to. NCST is even a little tougher than I prefer with two kids in tow.

It becomes pretty easy to tell who has kids and who doesn't in threads like this one iyam.

I totally get the point of view about bringing kids to a game, but I also think that your thoughts really only apply when the kids are very young. Dont you think your kids at 12+ would love the Lville Homecoming game? College gameday and all the cool pageantry? I thought homecoming was for everyone to come back, especially far away alums. I think if you are (rightfully so) looking for a good game to bring the kids to, Clemson should just make family weekend a bigger ordeal for children. I think family weekend is meant for families, (as the name states) and homecoming is meant for everyone to come home (as the name states).
 
It's a high school tradition to try and lure people to a Friday night game against a shitty opponent, and is normally accompanied by "dress up" days during the week and an awkward dance that only the weird kids go to.

Clemson is a program that's at the pinnacle of CFB while being steeped in rich traditions and can pack the stadium out no matter the opponent. Do we really need to keep having "Homecoming" games?

OP wears a jersey on Saturdays and Sundays to view his favorite team.
 
OP is on to something. A large number of our fans are not alumni. Not because they didn't want to be, but more than likely because long standing socio economic and racial inequalities kept them out.

It's really just a nanny nanny boo boo, we are the real fans, and y'all are just T-shirt fans celebration day. Probably a very triggering day for many.
 
It's a high school tradition to try and lure people to a Friday night game against a shitty opponent, and is normally accompanied by "dress up" days during the week and an awkward dance that only the weird kids go to.

Clemson is a program that's at the pinnacle of CFB while being steeped in rich traditions and can pack the stadium out no matter the opponent. Do we really need to keep having "Homecoming" games?
Hell yeah and while we are it, let's get rid of the rock, the hill and rename the field 'safe space'.
 
Did you go to Clemson or do you have a greater connection to Clemson than just being a football fan? I only ask because if you didn't, and don't have a connection beyond just watching football games like an NFL fan, then it would make sense why you don't get the concept of homecoming.

If you don't have a connection to Clemson beyond football, you probably aren't familiar with all of the pageantry of homecoming week nor the purpose it serves which is to reunite the Clemson family that has becoming displaced and celebrate old memories, reunite old friends, and reconnect with the university. Homecoming is a lot more than just a scheme to lure people to " attend a game against a crappy opponent". The football game is just a small part. I sense you are only looking at it through the sense of a football fan.

To you it may just be a label on a football game, but it's much more than that. A whole lot more.
Of course I went to Clemson, and I'd actually agree to your point if "homecoming" was a game that only Alumni could attend. I could see the value in coming back to see old classmates, and as a tool to keep Alumni engaged with the school (one can only take so many calls/emails asking only for donations).

I think the Alumni utopia which is your view of "homecoming" is ruined once we allow non-alumni to come to the game. I really don't want to sit next to a bunch of Pickens county residents or SWU/Wofford/Citadel grads for a noon game against a 3-4 win school. There is nothing that screams "homecoming" about that.

FYI, before people freak out, I already have tickets and parking spot, and a house rented for the long weekend after Thanksgiving. I've found that the increased costs of the USCe weekend will normally keep out some of the aforementioned riff raff. Which means a pretty good weekend for the Alumni and their families.
 
For all you guys complaining about losing a "tradition", is it really a Clemson tradition if 100's of other schools also do it? Furthermore, were you guys complaining when Dabo added All In or Tiger Walk to the Clemson traditions? How about the slow fade out of the "Woo Hoo" or taking buses around the stadium instead walking down from Fike?

The "its our tradition" argument doesn't hold water here.

I don't think you understand what the term "tradition" means very well. You certainly don't use it in a realistic context with your initial post or in the above. Perhaps if you weren't so desperately trying to redefine or fabricate ways to try and vilify the word for personal reasons this thread wouldn't be such a silly troll attempt.
 
Lay off the guy!

I hate traditions, too.

Can't understand why we waste all the gas and effort to bus the players around to run down the hill when they are already down on field level. Just walk out. IF any choose, they can touch the rock after the game or something. Just walk out of the locker room and play.

Heck, if it jacks up the players, get some dry ice or fire extinguishers to provide 'smoke' they can run through, after busting through a big paper banner.
Not THAT would be exciting!!

Time to do something new and different. You know, change and all..........

OP is cool.

LOL...settle down buddy...this is just a successful troll thread.
 
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I totally get the point of view about bringing kids to a game, but I also think that your thoughts really only apply when the kids are very young. Dont you think your kids at 12+ would love the Lville Homecoming game? College gameday and all the cool pageantry? I thought homecoming was for everyone to come back, especially far away alums. I think if you are (rightfully so) looking for a good game to bring the kids to, Clemson should just make family weekend a bigger ordeal for children. I think family weekend is meant for families, (as the name states) and homecoming is meant for everyone to come home (as the name states).
It's not JUST kids... it's visiting and walking around campus. It's visiting the other side of the stadium at halftime. It's being able to get in and get out before and after the game while the sun is still up. Getting our floats on Gameday, when we already have the best gameday attendance in the country, seems pretty worthless in the grand scheme of things to me.

If "homecoming" is a Louisville type game, and it is a night game, and a highly ranked game, it makes it pretty miserable and hard to actually "visit" at parts of it imho.

Maybe that's just me, but I doubt it.
 
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Of course I went to Clemson, and I'd actually agree to your point if "homecoming" was a game that only Alumni could attend. I could see the value in coming back to see old classmates, and as a tool to keep Alumni engaged with the school (one can only take so many calls/emails asking only for donations).

I think the Alumni utopia which is your view of "homecoming" is ruined once we allow non-alumni to come to the game. I really don't want to sit next to a bunch of Pickens county residents or SWU/Wofford/Citadel grads for a noon game against a 3-4 win school. There is nothing that screams "homecoming" about that.

FYI, before people freak out, I already have tickets and parking spot, and a house rented for the long weekend after Thanksgiving. I've found that the increased costs of the USCe weekend will normally keep out some of the aforementioned riff raff. Which means a pretty good weekend for the Alumni and their families.
I know you are probably just trolling about non-alumni, but I disagree. I graduated from Clemson too and there are a lot of non-graduates, who have deep roots in Clemson and have been life long supporters of the school in addition to athletics, who are presented with the same opportunities to reunite with old friends and reconnect with the university. Its not just about alumni, nor should it be. Some of the biggest contributors to Clemson and making it what it is today were not alumni. Its about the Clemson family, not just the Clemson alumni.
 
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Of course I went to Clemson, and I'd actually agree to your point if "homecoming" was a game that only Alumni could attend. I could see the value in coming back to see old classmates, and as a tool to keep Alumni engaged with the school (one can only take so many calls/emails asking only for donations).

I think the Alumni utopia which is your view of "homecoming" is ruined once we allow non-alumni to come to the game. I really don't want to sit next to a bunch of Pickens county residents or SWU/Wofford/Citadel grads for a noon game against a 3-4 win school. There is nothing that screams "homecoming" about that.

FYI, before people freak out, I already have tickets and parking spot, and a house rented for the long weekend after Thanksgiving. I've found that the increased costs of the USCe weekend will normally keep out some of the aforementioned riff raff. Which means a pretty good weekend for the Alumni and their families.

I thought libs were not in the business of judging and excluding people. Interesting.
 
I really don't want to sit next to a bunch of Pickens county residents or SWU/Wofford/Citadel grads for a noon game against a 3-4 win school. There is nothing that screams "homecoming" about that.

FYI, before people freak out, I already have tickets and parking spot, and a house rented for the long weekend after Thanksgiving.


Doesn't want to sit next to redneck trash and watch Clemson play a 3-4 win school
Buys tickets and rents a house for the South Carolina game
 
I really don't want to sit next to a bunch of Pickens county residents or SWU/Wofford/Citadel grads for a noon game against a 3-4 win school. There is nothing that screams "homecoming" about that.

FYI, before people freak out, I already have tickets and parking spot, and a house rented for the long weekend after Thanksgiving.


Doesn't want to sit next to redneck trash and watch Clemson play a 3-4 win school
Buys tickets and rents a house for the South Carolina game
 
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It's not JUST kids... it's visiting and walking around campus. It's visiting the other side of the stadium at halftime. It's being able to get in and get out before and after the game while the sun is still up. Getting our floats on Gameday, when we already have the best gameday attendance in the country, seems pretty worthless in the grand scheme of things to me.

If "homecoming" is a Louisville type game, and it is a night game, and a highly ranked game, it makes it pretty miserable and hard to actually "visit" at parts of it imho.

Maybe that's just me, but I doubt it.

I think its harder to visit all of campus and see everything if that game starts at noon. I know for a fact that my wife and I are annoyed that we probably cant see everything we wanted to due to the noon kick. I don't see how a homecoming is hurt by being at night, and I don't see why traffic should matter in terms of labeling something homecoming. Everything you just mentioned is doable at a night except for the traffic and getting in and out while the sun is up. We visited numerous tailgates at halftime of the LVille game.

In regards to floats, I think that while we always have great gameday attendance, having more of our school side show than the football side could be beneficial for the school. I think it would continue to differentiate us from other schools, and would be another great showcase as Clemson continues to try and grow the student population (student population growth a conversation for a different day).
 
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Have scientists found a gene yet that links transsexuals and stupid together? Just asking for OP.
 
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Let's both be honest with ourselves here. No one is picking to travel from out of state to a Clemson game that features a terrible opponent. The last 4 opponents have been Wake Forest, Syracuse, Maryland and BC. Those four teams combined barely had over 10 wins over those 4 years.

I only have the chance to fly in for one game this year, and I didn't even look at the NC State game because they are a poor opponent and guaranteed noon game.

That's actually 1000% false. I live in Indiana and traveled to BC game last year specifically because it was homecoming...why? Because I wanted to take my kids to campus to see 1) the displays on Bowman 2) Tigerama and 3) An easier game to get tickets for a larger group....

We were actually planning to do same this year, but we can't get away this weekend due to their activities, so...you are wrong.

BTW--i know others in the Central Indiana Clemson facebook group that also went to homecoming last year for this reason. That's anecdotal, but I'm sure we are not only ones.

Insert quote from Billy Madison here...We are all dumber for having read this and you are awarded no points. That's how I feel about this post.
 
I think its harder to visit all of campus and see everything if that game starts at noon. I know for a fact that my wife and I are annoyed that we probably cant see everything we wanted to due to the noon kick. I don't see how a homecoming is hurt by being at night, and I don't see why traffic should matter in terms of labeling something homecoming. Everything you just mentioned is doable at a night except for the traffic and getting in and out while the sun is up. We visited numerous tailgates at halftime of the LVille game.

In regards to floats, I think that while we always have great gameday attendance, having more of our school side show than the football side could be beneficial for the school. I think it would continue to differentiate us from other schools, and would be another great showcase as Clemson continues to try and grow the student population (student population growth a conversation for a different day).
Just gonna agree to disagree. You can spend the rest of the afternoon in Clemson for a noon game. You cannot do that for a night game. You also have more non-alumni fans that want to come to Louisville, as compared to NCST or lesser. So tickets for Homecoming are much easier to get, parking is easier, etc.

I think your thoughts here are short sided, but I have no issue with you disagreeing with me. Different strokes for different folks and all.

I do think the powers that be agree with me also... at least I hope so. I think letting Homecoming be the big deal on that day, and the actual football matchup be the big deal on days like Lousiville/FSU/etc coming to town, makes a lot more sense to me.
 
Let's both be honest with ourselves here. No one is picking to travel from out of state to a Clemson game that features a terrible opponent. The last 4 opponents have been Wake Forest, Syracuse, Maryland and BC. Those four teams combined barely had over 10 wins over those 4 years.

I only have the chance to fly in for one game this year, and I didn't even look at the NC State game because they are a poor opponent and guaranteed noon game.

I specifically chose this game because it was homecoming and I want to bring my kids. If it wasn't homecoming, I wouldn't be going.

I may be in the minority, but I like the lesser opponent for homecoming (and homecoming in general) as it gives me an opportunity to bring my kids and family to a game with an atmosphere more suitable to them. Its not much fun trying to drag a 6 and 9 year old around campus all day, through the crowds, and wait for an 8:20 kickoff - let alone pay for the tickets to prime time games.
 
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OP is on to something. A large number of our fans are not alumni. Not because they didn't want to be, but more than likely because long standing socio economic and racial inequalities kept them out.

It's really just a nanny nanny boo boo, we are the real fans, and y'all are just T-shirt fans celebration day. Probably a very triggering day for many.

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To me homecoming is for families with kids. It allows you to go to a game where there will be entertainment for children at usually a lower price point on tickets. They get to experience a fun environment and no one really cares that they will be leaving at half time because said kids are pitching a fit.

Is it the game you circle because of good football....NO. It is game you circle to take the whole family.
Bingo.
 
Not only that, but you made a point about us changing the homecoming tradition. The old tradition was it to be a big game and to get everyone extra amped. Somewhere that was lost. We bring back that atmosphere, and combine it with a high probability of college gameday with all of our floats and everything? The entire school would benefit even more.
Gameday was at Clemson a few years ago for Homecoming. I think maybe for GT.
 
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