Hypocrite much? Spent 22 million (to 14 million by Handel) and lost.
Overturn Citizens United!
What a joke.
Overturn Citizens United!
What a joke.
So where is all the complaining by the left when their candidate spends the most money and loses?
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Same strategy the left has been applying to everything for quite some time - throw a ton of money at something while trying to convince the general public it is what they want/need, and then watch it falter. Just because you spend a lot of money on something does not mean it will be a success.
Thought it was stupid to spend so much in an area that bleeds dark red.
You have to pick and choose your battles.
You have to pick and choose your battles.
This. Ossoff never had a chance in that district. I'm actually shocked it was as close as it was.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...eorgia-6th-most-expensive-house-election.html
$31.2 million spent by Ossoff vs. $22.7 million spent by Handel.
$31.2 million spent by Ossoff vs. $22.7 million spent by Handel.
Don't know where your numbers are coming from, but Handel only spent $3.2m compared to $22.25 for Ossof.
The pictures didn't post, so check the link.
Ossoff's campaign raised $23.6 million to Handel's $4.5 million. But money spent from party committees and Super PACs tilted in favor of Handel $18.2 million to $7.6 million.
Seat has been red for decades, however, Democrats felt strongly it would be flipped. Sounds like sour grapes. This went very much like the presidential election.
you can be obtuse all you want, you know damn well that figure doesnt represent the actual money spent on the race in favor of karen handel.
and an overwhelming majority of the outside money spent (heavily in favor of handel) comes from outside the state, so you can skip the "democrats were the only ones raising money outside the state" argument.
when it comes to electoral politics, money = direct voter contact, and we know that with enough contact we can flip a segment of the population during persuasion, and then get our voters to the polls. Money does matter in electoral politics, thats an objective truth. But, money does not, you are right, "guarantee success" in a given election.
As someone who lives in ATL i can confirm this. Every other TV or radio commercial was an attack ad against Jon Ossoff, including one recent one that blamed him for the congressional baseball practice shooting, and multiple ones linking him to All Qaeda (I believe the logic was that Ossoff's company once produced videos for Al Jazeera TV, and Al Jazeera is where terrorists send their videos, so they must be in cahoots). Those republicans sure keep it classy, and the mouth breathers believe it all.
Am happy that we don't have to be exposed to that crap any longer.
I clearly said "spent by Handel", which is 100% accurate. And personal attacks get your argument no where.
Democrats put out another flawed candidate, with no message, and lost again, despite factors being in their favor.
"despite factors being in their favor." You cannot honestly believe that can you? And you can't honestly believe that being called "obtuse" is a personal attack can you?
What sounds like sour grapes?
Also... I think Dems poured a ton of money into his compaign because they wanted to win that seat in the worst way, but everybody (including Dems) knew it was a long shot at best.
I was making a parallel between the left's school of thought on increased spending on bigger government, more subsidies, more handouts, etc. to win voters and just throwing as much money as possible at one single candidate to try to win one seat by "persuading" said voters.
As you so eloquently stated, the goal from the beginning was to fund this election with outside money to try to buy the seat and it didn't work...should be a wake up call.
I live in the 6th district...I haven't heard one person anywhere say this was ever a long-shot for Ossoff. They all felt confident this was their time, similar to that cold night in November.
Why is it you only post in political threads?
And yes, everything was in their favor. Trump won that district by 1% point and liberals have said this would be an easy win. But the tune has completely changed over night.
Great moral victory though. Keep up the anti-Trump rhetoric with no message and the 2018 results will be the same story.
This. Why Ossoff wasn't quite a lock, most democrats thought they had this one based on Trump's 1% margin there in November, and Ossof picking up 49% in the primary. But their tune has completely changed overnight, this was only a long shot, and they lost by a closer margin than democrats typically do in that district.
I live in the 6th district as well and don't know anybody who thought Ossoff would win. By and large everybody I've spoken with about the election thought his campaign was a huge waste of money. Maybe we've been talking to different people.
your choice to continue being obtuse, and to get butthurt over me calling you obtuse, makes you look pretty silly. Especially when I know you are smart enough to understand that the 4+ million that handel raised into her campaign committee doesn't come close to equaling the money spent in her favor.
i do agree that ossoff was a flawed candidate who ran against trump rather than being boldly progressive though.
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everything was in dems favor? and here I thought you might know what you were talking about. Trump winning by 1 point in the 6th did not all of a sudden make the fundamentals of that district any better for democrats. Romney won by 20+, so did Tom Price in November. Trumps victory in november by 1 only tells us that those people didnt like trump, not that they were ready to vote for a democrat. and whne you factor in price's 20+ win, what you just said has no bearing in reality. and again, you are cherry picking a stat to try and make a point ITT. you look petty.
"most democrats" have no idea what they are talking about. just like, as you've proven ITT, "most republicans" dont know what they are talking about either.
and to add, this is especially true of the overwhelmingly white woman driven "resistance" that is TOTALLY delusional about what we can accomplish/the state of the country outside their 5 foot radius and mommy groups.
In the offseason politics is the only thing on this board that interests me or is worth my valuable time. Your 100+ threads giving your thoughts on men's fashion are of minor import.
It was a 20 pt gap last time. How often do you see those swing the opposite direction?
The big spend by Dems there reeks of desperation to try to gain some momentum.
No sour grapes on my end. Just an observation.
Hat's off to the Right for keeping a seat that the Dems REALLY wanted. Winning is all that matters in these types of elections.
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I agree with this, in the end winning the seat is the only thing that matters.
But, the 10 threads started today on this subject were all started by trumpsters taking a big victory lap. My point is that their boasting about winning a traditionally red district is a little much. It is the equivalent of sending me your kids high school graduation announcement. Congrats, your kid graduated from high school. That is what they are supposed to do. Not something that really deserves a ticker tape parade.
1. Gap last time is irrelevant...they were confident they had this in the bag since the primaries if not before then. Their feelings this morning:
2. Your second point is exactly what I'm saying.
1. Gap last time is irrelevant...they were confident they had this in the bag since the primaries if not before then. Their feelings this morning:
2. Your second point is exactly what I'm saying.
No, the gap last time is not irrelevant. Tom price won that district by 20+ points just 9 months ago. There is nothing irrelevant about that fact.
Any Democrats who were "confident we had it in the bag" had no idea what they were talking about.
Price was an incumbent and held that seat for 12 years, not exactly the same as 2 new candidates battling it out.
You're saying that a lot of Democrats had no idea what they were talking about...never thought I'd hear those words from you. The smugness and confidence was at an all-time high thinking this was their seat. As @rladams5 said, they thought they had bought, and thus won, the election months ago.
Not sure which democrats you are referring to. All of the ones that I know here in GA thought there was little chance of winning the seat. I you simply added up all of the primary voters that voted republican, it equaled exactly what we saw last night.
But hey, if believing that made your breakfast taste better this morning, more power to you.
You are right, it's not "exactly the same" because price was a 6 term incumbent, but it also does not mean you can totally discount his vote totals.
