SSA payments - how long before a judge intervenes?

[MTTiger19]

To cut down on fraud, starting March 31st, people can no longer verify their identity to the SSA over the phone. Those who cannot adequately verify their identity over the agency’s “My Social Security” online service will be required to visit an agency field office in person to complete the verification process.

 

[ANEW]

To cut down on fraud, starting March 31st, people can no longer verify their identity to the SSA over the phone. Those who cannot adequately verify their identity over the agency’s “My Social Security” online service will be required to visit an agency field office in person to complete the verification process.

It will happen. The same people who oppose voter ID laws will likely hop on this common sense fraud protection measure.

 

[MTTiger19]

It will happen. The same people who oppose voter ID laws will likely hop on this common sense fraud protection measure.

That was precisely my point. Cali, Colorado, Illinois, Washington and Oregon will all be in court claiming this is racism somehow. Same way requiring an ID to vote is racism. You need an ID to buy a damn vape pen but not to vote right.

So the question is why? Why is fraud protection for SS or voting something one party is adamantly opposed to?

 

[ANEW]

So the question is why? Why is fraud protection for SS or voting something one party is adamantly opposed to?

One of the great unsloved mysteries of our time.

 

[MTTiger19]

One of the great unsloved mysteries of our time.

Is it unsolved or is it voter fraud? Seems like the latter.

 

[scotchtiger]

If they are actually able to execute this, we will likely see a nice purge of the SS program. I hope anyone discovered to have defrauded it are locked away for many years and their assets confiscated and added to SS coffers.

 

[dpic73]

It will happen. The same people who oppose voter ID laws will likely hop on this common sense fraud protection measure.

Is it really common sense if they're also closing SS offices, making it even tougher for senior citizens to speak to someone in person? Not all older prople are computer literate and many don't drive. Just more unnecessary cruelty and hardship heaped on the less fortunate so billionaires can fill their coffers.

5 Social Security offices in Georgia slated for closure, per DOGE website

The Trump Administration is shutting down multiple Social Security Administration (SSA) offices nationwide, including five in Georgia, the most of any state.

www.fox5atlanta.com

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5203770-social-security-administration-office-closures/

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

To cut down on fraud, starting March 31st, people can no longer verify their identity to the SSA over the phone. Those who cannot adequately verify their identity over the agency’s “My Social Security” online service will be required to visit an agency field office in person to complete the verification process.

I don't like this new plan.

I love this new plan!

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

Is it unsolved or is it voter fraud? Seems like the latter.

The Democrats built the Pyramids

Mystery solved.

 

[dpic73]

I don't like this new plan.

I love this new plan!

Why?

 

[yoshi121374]

Is it really common sense if they're also closing SS offices, making it even tougher for senior citizens to speak to someone in person? Not all older prople are computer literate and many don't drive. Just more unnecessary cruelty and hardship heaped on the less fortunate so billionaires can fill their coffers.

5 Social Security offices in Georgia slated for closure, per DOGE website

The Trump Administration is shutting down multiple Social Security Administration (SSA) offices nationwide, including five in Georgia, the most of any state.

www.fox5atlanta.com

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5203770-social-security-administration-office-closures/

My MIL is pissed. She doesn't drive on highways, and she is basically computer illiterate. It going to add hardship to my wife and I to take her to the office.

Piss off the Senior citizens and see what happens.

 

[MTTiger19]

My MIL is pissed. She doesn't drive on highways, and she is basically computer illiterate. It going to add hardship to my wife and I to take her to the office.

Piss off the Senior citizens and see what happens.

Damn I guess you’ll have to take a day off your important job to go help. Good thing you have a four year degree, unlike the gross poors you detest, I guess they’ll have to make other arrangements.

 

[yoshi121374]

Damn I guess you’ll have to take a day off your important job to go help. Good thing you have a four year degree, unlike the gross poors you detest, I guess they’ll have to make other arrangements.

Yeah. Where did I call anyone a gross poor?

I am glad to take her, but to act as if the inconvenience isn't going to create some bad feelings is disingenuous.

 

[fatpiggy]

My MIL is pissed. She doesn't drive on highways, and she is basically computer illiterate. It going to add hardship to my wife and I to take her to the office.

Piss off the Senior citizens and see what happens.

What would really piss them off as when the program went insolvent and they didn’t get any of their money. Because that’s exactly where we were headed.

 

[MTTiger19]

Yeah. Where did I call anyone a gross poor?

I am glad to take her, but to act as if the inconvenience isn't going to create some bad feelings is disingenuous.

Wow you might get inconvenienced. Call the ACLU.

And you were intimating that poor people are dumb and like trump. Don’t lie and backtrack. Say it and own it lib.

 

[MTTiger19]

Yeah. Where did I call anyone a gross poor?

I am glad to take her, but to act as if the inconvenience isn't going to create some bad feelings is disingenuous.

I know you’re functionally illiterate but this was your post:

Exactly. Smart,educated people don't like Trump? That's not exactly surprising, have you read his tweets? He's functionally illiterate.

 

[fatpiggy]

There is no denying that it will be inconvenient for a few.

Why is this not seen as helping your country?

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country? Im pretty sure that was a democrat that said that.

It seems like if the country needs help in rooting out fraud that asking someone to take two hours out of their day once in a lifetime is not a huge ask.

 

[MTTiger19]

There is no denying that it will be inconvenient for a few.

Why is this not seen as helping your country

That’s not what your country can do for you, but what you could do for your country

It seems like if the country needs help in rooting out fraud that asking someone to take two hours out of their day once in a lifetime is not a huge ask.

That’s inconvenient but having a child murdered by an illegal…. Well that’s just the cost of doing business right @yoshi121374

 

[yoshi121374]

I know you’re functionally illiterate but this was your post:

Exactly. Smart,educated people don't like Trump? That's not exactly surprising, have you read his tweets? He's functionally illiterate.

Nowhere in that post did it say anything about people being poor, thanks for proving me right?

 

[WapPride]

Yeah. Where did I call anyone a gross poor?

I am glad to take her, but to act as if the inconvenience isn't going to create some bad feelings is disingenuous.

You'll have to forgive him, he's been on a spiral lately. Clearly is consuming way too much political shit online and is starting to lose it.

 

[yoshi121374]

There is no denying that it will be inconvenient for a few.

Why is this not seen as helping your country?

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country? Im pretty sure that was a democrat that said that.

It seems like if the country needs help in rooting out fraud that asking someone to take two hours out of their day once in a lifetime is not a huge ask.

Agree with rooting out fraud. Now show actual proof of fraud.

 

[dpic73]

There is no denying that it will be inconvenient for a few.

Why is this not seen as helping your country?

Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country? Im pretty sure that was a democrat that said that.

It seems like if the country needs help in rooting out fraud that asking someone to take two hours out of their day once in a lifetime is not a huge ask.

If you really cared about fraud or really cared about SS, you wouldn't fire the Inspectors General whose job is to root out fraud in favor of some political hack with Asperger's. You'll justify anything, even when you know it's wrong, as long as Trump does it. Get off your knees.

Trump fires multiple federal inspectors general in overnight purge

Federal law requires the White House to give Congress a full month of warning and case-specific details before firing a federal inspector general.

www.cbsnews.com

Trump Fires IGs Across Government - Radical Compliance

President Trump fired inspectors general across the federal government on Friday, another attack against mechanisms of accountability.

www.radicalcompliance.com

 

[UrHuckleberry]

That’s inconvenient but having a child murdered by an illegal…. Well that’s just the cost of doing business right @yoshi121374

Cool, now do gun control

 

[MTTiger19]

Cool, now do gun control

You mean the 2nd amendment of the constitution. Point me to the clause that says illegal gang members must be allowed to become citizens please.

 

[fatpiggy]

Agree with rooting out fraud. Now show actual proof of fraud.

Are you suggesting there is no fraud in a database that has been described as having millions of people older than 100? You and I both know that just by the sheer numbers and size of the database, there is plenty of fraud in there.

Now is it worth it to find every single example and publish it? I don't know. You guys are already torching cars and dealerships. And you wonder why there is hesitation to name names? People are acting like raving lunatics without direct accusations.

I would love nothing more than proof of the fraud to be put on display and prosecuted. I've seen rumblings of a big story coming. We will see if it pans out or not.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

You mean the 2nd amendment of the constitution. Point me to the clause that says illegal gang members must be allowed to become citizens please.

lol, definitely the equivalent

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Are you suggesting there is no fraud in a database that has been described as having millions of people older than 100? You and I both know that just by the sheer numbers and size of the database, there is plenty of fraud in there.

Now is it worth it to find every single example and publish it? I don't know. You guys are already torching cars and dealerships. And you wonder why there is hesitation to name names? People are acting like raving lunatics without direct accusations.

I would love nothing more than proof of the fraud to be put on display and prosecuted. I hear rumblings of a big story coming. We will see if it pans out or not.

So you don’t want people arrested for fraud and that to be known publicly? Wouldn’t that help cut down on fraud?

 

[yoshi121374]

Are you suggesting there is no fraud in a database that has been described as having millions of people older than 100? You and I both know that just by the sheer numbers and size of the database, there is plenty of fraud in there.

Now is it worth it to find every single example and publish it? I don't know. You guys are already torching cars and dealerships. And you wonder why there is hesitation to name names? People are acting like raving lunatics without direct accusations.

I would love nothing more than proof of the fraud to be put on display and prosecuted. I hear rumblings of a big story coming. We will see if it pans out or not.

I am sure that there is fraud. I don't know of any business, including my company that doesn't have some measure of theft or fraud. There is a reason all companies have loss prevention departments.

I'm just tired of the wild accusations being used as a basis to support shutting down services. It's being done for public approval and the fanboys, not to actually save money or there would be no more suggestions for tax cuts.

 

[Allornothing]

One of the great unsloved mysteries of our time.

We actually know the answer to the question though. It's so liberals can cheat and cheat massively.

 

[MTTiger19]

lol, definitely the equivalent

Go try and buy a gun without an ID.

 

[MTTiger19]

Cool, now do gun control

How is gun control related to having people on ss go to the office?

 

[fatpiggy]

So you don’t want people arrested for fraud and that to be known publicly? Wouldn’t that help cut down on fraud?

Did you read the last paragraph of my post? I assume you missed that part?

 

[ANEW]

If you really cared about fraud or really cared about SS, you wouldn't fire the Inspectors General whose job is to root out fraud...

How were they doing? I don't remember much news about SS fraud enforcement going back beyond Jan 20th of this year. So maybe they had rooted it all out and they should be re-instated?

 

[wrw311]

Just a simple curious question. I tried to look up what's involved with the online verification process but all i'm getting are news articles about this.
How does this online tool better than a phone call? Openly ignorant to this, so I'm genuinely curious as both seem like they could easily be open to fraud. But I don't know what goes on with a phone call and I don't know what you have to do for this online verification.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

You mean the 2nd amendment of the constitution. Point me to the clause that says illegal gang members must be allowed to become citizens please.

If I recall correctly illegals are not allowed guns but they still kill with guns but make do with big rocks, knives , motor vehicles , choking to death, beating to death , etc as they are very creative when it comes to killing AMERICAN citizens.

 

[PalmettoTiger1]

How is gun control related to having people on ss go to the office?

Dude was referring to USPS where they keep the guns and go Postal

 

[dpic73]

How were they doing? I don't remember much news about SS fraud enforcement going back beyond Jan 20th of this year. So maybe they had rooted it all out and they should be re-instated?

Before Jan. 20, IGs didn't hold press conferences to showboat and place blame when they found fraud. And since Catturd wouldn't have tweeted about it, it's understandable you wouldn't know.

"From FYs 2015 through 2022, SSA estimates it made nearly $72 billion in improper payments, most of which were overpayments. While this is less than 1 percent of the total benefits paid during that period, at the end of FY 2023, SSA had an uncollected overpayment balance of $23 billion."

Office of the Inspector General

The Office of the Inspector General is directly responsible for meeting the statutory mission of promoting economy, efficiency, and effectiveness in the administration of Social Security Administration programs and operations and to prevent and detect fraud, waste, abuse, and mismanagement in...

oig.ssa.gov

 

[UrHuckleberry]

Did you read the last paragraph of my post? I assume you missed that part?

I will admit I did. Was quickly posting during a meeting lol. But I guess I don’t understand how we haven’t seen arrests? Keep seeing fraud thrown around.

 

[UrHuckleberry]

How is gun control related to having people on ss go to the office?

You seem to be making a connection between someone disagreeing with on border policy to being ok with children being murdered by an illegal.

That’s inconvenient but having a child murdered by an illegal…. Well that’s just the cost of doing business right @yoshi121374

This is the post I was replying to. Discussing cost of doing business.

 

[CUTiger1977]

As a 70 year old who went through the SS registration before I turned 65 it was simple to sign up online. We actually had computer courses back in 1970. There are some seniors that need help. I took the time to enroll my brother a few years ago.

I did have to call in after enrolling to confirm that I didn’t have to pay for plan B while under my employer’s insurance. All the data online indicated that if you didn’t pay for it when you turned 65 the payments would go up when you started. My employer changed the insurance plan four months before I retired at 67 that required me to pay for Plan B as Medicare became my primary.

I retired a year after full SS eligibility. I also had maxed out what you can draw but received an 8 percent increase by waiting a year to draw.

I was recruited last week to do some work for a company who focuses on VA buildings. So I’m going back into to the work force thanks to POTUS with no tax on my SS and no deduction.