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Certainly it wasn't what you glean from our current state of affairs. dpic73, I am not going to get into a war of words with you if you don't see the unacceptable actions of the Biden administration,. Let's do this - tell me the reason you are a Biden supporter and what it is about the Democrat party that makes you want to support them. What are your core beliefs?
Wait, I thought you were going to give me proof that Biden abused his powers in order to enrich his family through illegal business dealings with Communist China, which now makes him a puppet, even though there is zero evidence of that? Or are you just throwing a bunch of shit against the wall because you heard those implications from people on the Right who want you to believe that's true, so you can morally justify your choice to pull the lever for the most abysmal human being who's ever run for office? I mean, if they're both the same, you can feel good about voting for your tyrant, right? Bottom line, show me proof, not innuendo, and we'll have a discussion - otherwise, you've been duped.

I am a Biden supporter not because I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but because he much more reflects my values than the only other option we had in the general. I don't go to Biden rallies, wear a Biden hat, fly a Biden flag or snuggle with a stuffed Biden bear. I don't worship Biden but he's a good man who believes in democracy, science and I believe he cares about all people and wants to ensure that everyone has access to good healthcare, a good education and every opportunity to have a successful, fulfilling life. Do I think he's perfect? No I do not and he wouldn't be my first choice for President if I had my pick, but he is who we got, I like him and he's the President, so therefore I support him.

As far as why I'm a liberal, for me I see it as the only choice based on what I've seen and experienced from a very young age. I grew up in a Republican household in a red state so I know what I'm talking about Here are some random thoughts:

  • Not all Republicans are racist but almost all racists are Republican. I've seen that up close and personal and it's ugly and frightening how cruel people can be to others they see as lesser than them. I want no part of that.
  • Not all Republicans are phobes but almost all phobes are Republican. From a young age I've witnessed family members and Republican officials spew hatred, discriminate against and demonize anyone who wasn't a hetero white Christian and it was disgusting. I believe people should be able to marry whoever they want, serve in the military if they choose and have every opportunity that anyone else has, regardless if they are gay, straight, trans, brown or green. I want the government to stay out of people's personal lives - period.
  • I want people to have control over their own bodies, including women's reproductive health. Your government should not have control over the medical procedures you choose. I want freedom for everyone to do what's best for them without interference. Republicans want control of everyone else's choices and I oppose that vigorously.
  • Not all Republicans are conspiracy theorists but almost all conspiracy theorists are Republican. From Obama was a secret Muslim to Democrats are running a secret child pedophilia ring and drinking the blood of children to believing in widespread voter fraud with no evidence to support it. Taken to it's most extreme you end up with groups like QAnon who believe all these things and other insane conspiracies like JFK Jr. is coming back to be Trump's running mate. They even gathered in Dallas(twice!) to witness his emergence from the grave. It's just fvcking insanity and I want no part of it.
  • Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work...
  • I believe we need much stricter gun control to end this slaughterfest that only this country experiences. Republicans do not. I believe the main reason Republicans oppose it is because they have this doomsday fantasy that the government is coming for them and they'll need to be massively armed to repel the attack on their freedoms, lol. As far as the politicians, they are in the pocket of the NRA so they have sold their souls for financial gain. It's sickening that comes before lives but that's where we are as a country.
  • Republicans distrust government and want to destroy it from the inside out, but I believe that government has a bigger and more important role in society and is mostly needed for future innovation, new industries, addressing climate change, pandemics etc... while Republicans are mired in stale culture wars because they fear change and progress. Basically, I don't trust Republicans to do what's right for the majority of people, so destroying government would only give them more power to do what's wrong.
  • Republicans are enamored with authoritarian types like Trump and DeSantis who spread doom, gloom, lies and fear in order to control their subjects. Democrats are more optimistic and generally more decent human beings who are opposed to this kind of negative oppression. They believe people should be able to read what they want, learn the truth about history and are far more open minded about all subjects, which I agree with wholeheartedly. Republicans want to control your mind - Democrats do not.
  • It's no coincidence that the most liberal countries in the world are also the happiest, for instance the Nordic countries, Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands. The most conservative countries are the least happy, for example Iran, Mali and Yemen. Ask yourself, would you prefer to live in Switzerland or Iran? Seems like a pretty easy choice to me.

I could go on but I'm tired of typing so just to wrap it up, I see no reason at all why I'd ever want to be a Republican, especially now while that party is darker and dumber than ever.

I hope that answers your question
 
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Certainly it wasn't what you glean from our current state of affairs. dpic73, I am not going to get into a war of words with you if you don't see the unacceptable actions of the Biden administration,. Let's do this - tell me the reason you are a Biden supporter and what it is about the Democrat party that makes you want to support them. What are your core beliefs?

I actually share your thoughts on I wish Dpic73 would do a philosophical and political manifest do I could at least know why he is screaming and firehosing people on here with mounds of highly biased news reports

I get it he hates Trump but as I ask people what specific thing did he do that one disagrees with

Then I din’t get a clear concise answer but a freaking bullhorn of screaming which no person can understand

If asked For example about Biden I would start with his war on Oil and failure to encourage supply side economics

Then failure to shut down border by simply continuing Trump policies

Failure to encourage more police

so I can be specific

The Trump Deranged just do the screaming illierate barrage
 
Wait, I thought you were going to give me proof that Biden abused his powers in order to enrich his family through illegal business dealings with Communist China, which now makes him a puppet, even though there is zero evidence of that? Or are you just throwing a bunch of shit against the wall because you heard those implications from people on the Right who want you to believe that's true, so you can morally justify your choice to pull the lever for the most abysmal human being who's ever run for office? I mean, if they're both the same, you can feel good about voting for your tyrant, right? Bottom line, show me proof, not innuendo, and we'll have a discussion - otherwise, you've been duped.

I am a Biden supporter not because I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but because he much more reflects my values than the only other option we had in the general. I don't go to Biden rallies, wear a Biden hat, fly a Biden flag or snuggle with a stuffed Biden bear. I don't worship Biden but he's a good man who believes in democracy, science and I believe he cares about all people and wants to ensure that everyone has access to good healthcare, a good education and every opportunity to have a successful, fulfilling life. Do I think he's perfect? No I do not and he wouldn't be my first choice for President if I had my pick, but he is who we got, I like him and he's the President, so therefore I support him.

As far as why I'm a liberal, for me I see it as the only choice based on what I've seen and experienced from a very young age. I grew up in a Republican household in a red state so I know what I'm talking about Here are some random thoughts:

  • Not all Republicans are racist but almost all racists are Republican. I've seen that up close and personal and it's ugly and frightening how cruel people can be to others they see as lesser than them. I want no part of that.
  • Not all Republicans are phobes but almost all phobes are Republican. From a young age I've witnessed family members and Republican officials spew hatred, discriminate against and demonize anyone who wasn't a hetero white Christian and it was disgusting. I believe people should be able to marry whoever they want, serve in the military if they choose and have every opportunity that anyone else has, regardless if they are gay, straight, trans, brown or green. I want the government to stay out of people's personal lives - period.
  • I want people to have control over their own bodies, including women's reproductive health. Your government should not have control over the medical procedures you choose. I want freedom for everyone to do what's best for them without interference. Republicans want control of everyone else's choices and I oppose that vigorously.
  • Not all Republicans are conspiracy theorists but almost all conspiracy theorists are Republican. From Obama was a secret Muslim to Democrats are running a secret child pedophilia ring and drinking the blood of children to believing in widespread voter fraud with no evidence to support it. Taken to it's most extreme you end up with groups like QAnon who believe all these things and other insane conspiracies like JFK Jr. is coming back to be Trump's running mate. They even gathered in Dallas(twice!) to witness his emergence from the grave. It's just fvcking insanity and I want no part of it.
  • Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work...
  • I believe we need we need much stricter gun control to end this slaughterfest that only this country experiences. Republicans do not. I believe the main reason Republicans oppose it is because they have this doomsday fantasy that the government is coming for them and they'll need to be massively armed to repel the attack on their freedoms, lol. As far as the politicians, they are in the pocket of the NRA so they have sold their souls for financial gain. It's sickening that comes before lives but that's where we are as a country.
  • Republicans distrust government and want to destroy it from the inside out, but I believe that government has a bigger and more important role in society and is mostly needed for future innovation, new industries, addressing climate change, pandemics etc... while Republicans are mired in stale culture wars because they fear change and progress. Basically, I don't trust Republicans to do what's right for the majority of people, so destroying government would only give them more power to do what's wrong.
  • Republicans are enamored with authoritarian types like Trump and DeSantis who spread doom, gloom, lies and fear in order to control their subjects. Democrats are more optimistic and generally more decent human beings who are opposed to this kind of negative oppression. They believe people should be able to read what they want, learn the truth about history and are far more open minded about all subjects, which I agree with wholeheartedly. Republicans want to control your mind - Democrats do not.
  • It's no coincidence that the most liberal countries in the world are also the happiest, for instance the Nordic countries, Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands. The most conservative countries are the least happy, for example Iran, Mali and Yemen. Ask yourself, would you prefer to live in Switzerland or Iran? Seems like a pretty easy choice to me.

I could go on but I'm tired of typing so just to wrap it up, I see no reason at all why I'd ever want to be a Republican, especially now while that party is darker and dumber than ever.

I hope that answers your question

Thank you for putting in writing what the person you are you claim to be.

The only problem is I don’t see your actions mouthing your mouth

Start reading the Bible and hope you figure it out.

Great piece of fiction that I will cherish as to the typical person who sees themselves completely different from the reality they are.

Good luck on your journey through life.
 
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Thank you for putting in writing what the person you are you claim to be.

The only problem is I don’t see your actions mouthing your mouth

Start reading the Bible and hope you figure it out.

Great piece of fiction that I will cherish as to the typical person who sees themselves completely different from the reality they are.

Good luck on your journey through life.
I should add, most republicans on this board are dumber, crazier and more insipid than anyone I meet in real life and the things they say piss me off so I use "my mouth" accordingly.
 
Wait, I thought you were going to give me proof that Biden abused his powers in order to enrich his family through illegal business dealings with Communist China, which now makes him a puppet, even though there is zero evidence of that? Or are you just throwing a bunch of shit against the wall because you heard those implications from people on the Right who want you to believe that's true, so you can morally justify your choice to pull the lever for the most abysmal human being who's ever run for office? I mean, if they're both the same, you can feel good about voting for your tyrant, right? Bottom line, show me proof, not innuendo, and we'll have a discussion - otherwise, you've been duped.

I am a Biden supporter not because I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but because he much more reflects my values than the only other option we had in the general. I don't go to Biden rallies, wear a Biden hat, fly a Biden flag or snuggle with a stuffed Biden bear. I don't worship Biden but he's a good man who believes in democracy, science and I believe he cares about all people and wants to ensure that everyone has access to good healthcare, a good education and every opportunity to have a successful, fulfilling life. Do I think he's perfect? No I do not and he wouldn't be my first choice for President if I had my pick, but he is who we got, I like him and he's the President, so therefore I support him.

As far as why I'm a liberal, for me I see it as the only choice based on what I've seen and experienced from a very young age. I grew up in a Republican household in a red state so I know what I'm talking about Here are some random thoughts:

  • Not all Republicans are racist but almost all racists are Republican. I've seen that up close and personal and it's ugly and frightening how cruel people can be to others they see as lesser than them. I want no part of that.
  • Not all Republicans are phobes but almost all phobes are Republican. From a young age I've witnessed family members and Republican officials spew hatred, discriminate against and demonize anyone who wasn't a hetero white Christian and it was disgusting. I believe people should be able to marry whoever they want, serve in the military if they choose and have every opportunity that anyone else has, regardless if they are gay, straight, trans, brown or green. I want the government to stay out of people's personal lives - period.
  • I want people to have control over their own bodies, including women's reproductive health. Your government should not have control over the medical procedures you choose. I want freedom for everyone to do what's best for them without interference. Republicans want control of everyone else's choices and I oppose that vigorously.
  • Not all Republicans are conspiracy theorists but almost all conspiracy theorists are Republican. From Obama was a secret Muslim to Democrats are running a secret child pedophilia ring and drinking the blood of children to believing in widespread voter fraud with no evidence to support it. Taken to it's most extreme you end up with groups like QAnon who believe all these things and other insane conspiracies like JFK Jr. is coming back to be Trump's running mate. They even gathered in Dallas(twice!) to witness his emergence from the grave. It's just fvcking insanity and I want no part of it.
  • Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work...
  • I believe we need much stricter gun control to end this slaughterfest that only this country experiences. Republicans do not. I believe the main reason Republicans oppose it is because they have this doomsday fantasy that the government is coming for them and they'll need to be massively armed to repel the attack on their freedoms, lol. As far as the politicians, they are in the pocket of the NRA so they have sold their souls for financial gain. It's sickening that comes before lives but that's where we are as a country.
  • Republicans distrust government and want to destroy it from the inside out, but I believe that government has a bigger and more important role in society and is mostly needed for future innovation, new industries, addressing climate change, pandemics etc... while Republicans are mired in stale culture wars because they fear change and progress. Basically, I don't trust Republicans to do what's right for the majority of people, so destroying government would only give them more power to do what's wrong.
  • Republicans are enamored with authoritarian types like Trump and DeSantis who spread doom, gloom, lies and fear in order to control their subjects. Democrats are more optimistic and generally more decent human beings who are opposed to this kind of negative oppression. They believe people should be able to read what they want, learn the truth about history and are far more open minded about all subjects, which I agree with wholeheartedly. Republicans want to control your mind - Democrats do not.
  • It's no coincidence that the most liberal countries in the world are also the happiest, for instance the Nordic countries, Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands. The most conservative countries are the least happy, for example Iran, Mali and Yemen. Ask yourself, would you prefer to live in Switzerland or Iran? Seems like a pretty easy choice to me.

I could go on but I'm tired of typing so just to wrap it up, I see no reason at all why I'd ever want to be a Republican, especially now while that party is darker and dumber than ever.

I hope that answers your question
Nothing on economy, foreign policy, or immigration policy in your mini novel. Mainly just your feelings. How sweet.
 
Nothing on economy, foreign policy, or immigration policy in your mini novel. Mainly just your feelings. How sweet.
I did address the economy and I also stated that I was tired of typing but I could literally write 20 more pages for why I believe the way I do. But just a couple quick thoughts on your other two subjects.

- What is Republican or Democratic foreign policy, I have no idea, because it seems like the parties are flip-flopping on the policies they support. I will say I didn't like Trump or Obama's foreign policy but outside of the disaster in Afghanistan, I think Biden has mostly gotten it right. And I love the tone he's set with NATO and other foreign partners.

- I'm probably more hawkish than the average Democrat when it comes to immigration, so I'd like the border to be hardened and hardened soon. I care greatly about those fleeing from crime and poverty but the flow of humanity is unsustainable, so we need a new plan. It's a complex issue that will require both parties to lock themselves in a room until they get it hashed out - it's just too urgent to wait any longer. One thing I think we could do is force Mexico into playing a bigger role to slow the influx so we aren't fighting it alone.

That's all for tonight...
 
I should add, most republicans on this board are dumber, crazier and more insipid than anyone I meet in real life and the things they say piss me off so I use "my mouth" accordingly.

I continue to support your right to use your mouth

I encourage you to work at linking wisdom , realism and pragmatism with that mouth

LOL
 
Wait, I thought you were going to give me proof that Biden abused his powers in order to enrich his family through illegal business dealings with Communist China, which now makes him a puppet, even though there is zero evidence of that?
I never said I was going to give you proof of Biden's abuse of his powers. You suggested that I give you proof, but unlike Liberals, I am still monitoring the situation and reflecting on data that has been found to date. Do you agree that the laptop in question, indeed, belongs to Hunter?
Or are you just throwing a bunch of shit against the wall because you heard those implications from people on the Right who want you to believe that's true, so you can morally justify your choice to pull the lever for the most abysmal human being who's ever run for office?
Again, you are indicating I did something (voted for Trump) that you have no knowledge of so you need to abide by those things you suggest - show me proof I voted for Trump!

I mean, if they're both the same, you can feel good about voting for your tyrant, right? Bottom line, show me proof, not innuendo, and we'll have a discussion - otherwise, you've been duped.

Duped, wow, you have already come to a conclusion and the investigation is still ongoing! Standby, more is coming
I am a Biden supporter not because I think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but because he much more reflects my values than the only other option we had in the general.
I have no problem with this statement. Vote for whomever you choose. In my view, you are just wrong in your thinking or feelings.
I don't go to Biden rallies, wear a Biden hat, fly a Biden flag or snuggle with a stuffed Biden bear. I don't worship Biden but he's a good man who believes in democracy, science and I believe he cares about all people and wants to ensure that everyone has access to good healthcare, a good education and every opportunity to have a successful, fulfilling life. Do I think he's perfect? No I do not and he wouldn't be my first choice for President if I had my pick, but he is who we got, I like him and he's the President, so therefore I support him.
I don't go to Trump rallies nor wear Trump hats, etc, etc., etc. In my view, Biden is not a good man, he has been a hypocrite his entire political career and continues to be one. Biden believes in democracy? I don't think so!! He believes in whatever gets him what he wants regardless of the process! According to Obama, everyone does have access to good healthcare. As for as a "good education" I believe everyone does have access to an education but it shouldn't just be given to you at the expense of others. Get off your dead _ _ _ and work for it! As for the opportunity to have a successful, fulfilling life, it is there, go work hard for it! If you don't mind, tell me who your first choice would have been sans Biden
As far as why I'm a liberal, for me I see it as the only choice based on what I've seen and experienced from a very young age. I grew up in a Republican household in a red state so I know what I'm talking about Here are some random thoughts:
I'm 84 years old and was born in a Democrat controlled state and have witnessed first hand the Democrat machine in action. My mother worked for the Probate Judge's office for many years and was promoted to Assistant Probate Judge later. At the next election the existing PJ did not run so my mother entered the race. She was the first female to run for public office in my county and I witnessed the lawless Democrat machine in action in this alleged election. My mother lost because of the money distributed for votes by the Democrat machine. You didn't have to go looking for it, it was right there in front of you.
  • Not all Republicans are racist but almost all racists are Republican. I've seen that up close and personal and it's ugly and frightening how cruel people can be to others they see as lesser than them. I want no part of that.
Where is your proof that almost all racist are Republicans?
  • Not all Republicans are phobes but almost all phobes are Republican. From a young age I've witnessed family members and Republican officials spew hatred, discriminate against and demonize anyone who wasn't a hetero white Christian and it was disgusting. I believe people should be able to marry whoever they want, serve in the military if they choose and have every opportunity that anyone else has, regardless if they are gay, straight, trans, brown or green. I want the government to stay out of people's personal lives - period.
dpic73, the Democrats are the ones that want to control everyones life now. Check out the border. It is illegal to do what the Biden administration is doing at the border and all the Dems in Congress support him. Lately, there are some Dems that are speaking out after a tremendous number of Dems votes have crossed the border illegally.
  • I want people to have control over their own bodies, including women's reproductive health. Your government should not have control over the medical procedures you choose. I want freedom for everyone to do what's best for them without interference. Republicans want control of everyone else's choices and I oppose that vigorously.
I agree with here but I think the outcome I support will be different than yours. Except for rape women do have control over their bodies and their reproductive health. Having unprotected sex is a choice by the individual. Willingly killing of the unborn violates the very rights you suggest for everyone. The unborn does not have a vote here so what is happening is exactly what you suggest in freedom of choice.
  • Not all Republicans are conspiracy theorists but almost all conspiracy theorists are Republican. From Obama was a secret Muslim to Democrats are running a secret child pedophilia ring and drinking the blood of children to believing in widespread voter fraud with no evidence to support it.
Where is your proof here? I don't think Obama was a secret Muslim. I take him for his actions here. Who mentored him and what church he attended and supported.
  • Taken to it's most extreme you end up with groups like QAnon who believe all these things and other insane conspiracies like JFK Jr. is coming back to be Trump's running mate. They even gathered in Dallas(twice!) to witness his emergence from the grave. It's just fvcking insanity and I want no part of it.
Me either! Where do you get all this garbage you stated above?
  • Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work...
I won't argue with you about liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It depends on your definition of "Stimulating. When you throw enough free money into the economy it will eventually boon and unfortunately create more problems than it cured. Check the inflation level in America!
  • I believe we need much stricter gun control to end this slaughterfest that only this country experiences. Republicans do not. I believe the main reason Republicans oppose it is because they have this doomsday fantasy that the government is coming for them and they'll need to be massively armed to repel the attack on their freedoms, lol. As far as the politicians, they are in the pocket of the NRA so they have sold their souls for financial gain.
Check out the history of developing dictatorships like the old Russia, Germany, and Italy to name a few. One of the first things they do is round up all the guns from its citizens. I wonder why they do that? Tell me the last time or any time where a gun has gotten up and killed someone? Never happened and never will . People kill!!
  • It's sickening that comes before lives but that's where we are as a country.
Check out your stance on abortion!!

  • Republicans distrust government and want to destroy it from the inside out, but I believe that government has a bigger and more important role in society and is mostly needed for future innovation, new industries, addressing climate change, pandemics etc... while Republicans are mired in stale culture wars because they fear change and progress. Basically, I don't trust Republicans to do what's right for the majority of people, so destroying government would only give them more power to do what's wrong.

Governments don't supply innovation or new industries. Secondly, if you were part of the cause of a pandemic I would think you should be part of the solution. Growing information is coming out of the investigations of our part in the development of the disease that caused their pandemic. Continue to monitor the investigation and let's see where is finally goes.
  • Republicans are enamored with authoritarian types like Trump and DeSantis who spread doom, gloom, lies and fear in order to control their subjects. Democrats are more optimistic and generally more decent human beings who are opposed to this kind of negative oppression. They believe people should be able to read what they want, learn the truth about history and are far more open minded about all subjects, which I agree with wholeheartedly. Republicans want to control your mind - Democrats do not.

Nany Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, AOC and her group, Sheila Jackson Leigh, Adam Schiff, etc. fully support your absurd accusations above. I think I have a much clearer picture of you and your thinking now and you have lived up to my original thoughts on you. I wish you nothing but the best and appreciate your candid thoghts and expression...
  • It's no coincidence that the most liberal countries in the world are also the happiest, for instance the Nordic countries, Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands. The most conservative countries are the least happy, for example Iran, Mali and Yemen. Ask yourself, would you prefer to live in Switzerland or Iran? Seems like a pretty easy choice to me.

I could go on but I'm tired of typing so just to wrap it up, I see no reason at all why I'd ever want to be a Republican, especially now while that party is darker and dumber than ever.

I hope that answers your question
 
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Read his fricking post. Your bestie can take up for himself francis.
"Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work..."

You, "nothing about the economy."
 
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"Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work..."

You, "nothing about the economy."

Carter is the worst President of all time . Interest rates 14 - 21% , Clinton did do something I agree with welfare to work program. If a person was on welfare they had to attend a 2 year college - Tech school to learn a trade After attending a school welfare was cut out. It was swim or sink ... My next question is why not compare Apple's to Apple's by using stats from the last 3 expresident Bush , Bush , Trump...
 
Carter is the worst President of all time . Interest rates 14 - 21% , Clinton did do something I agree with welfare to work program. If a person was on welfare they had to attend a 2 year college - Tech school to learn a trade After attending a school welfare was cut out. It was swim or sink ... My next question is why not compare Apple's to Apple's by using stats from the last 3 expresident Bush , Bush , Trump...
Sure, go back to the end of WWII. It won't change the end result.
 
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I never said I was going to give you proof of Biden's abuse of his powers. You suggested that I give you proof, but unlike Liberals, I am still monitoring the situation and reflecting on data that has been found to date. Do you agree that the laptop in question, indeed, belongs to Hunter?

Again, you are indicating I did something (voted for Trump) that you have no knowledge of so you need to abide by those things you suggest - show me proof I voted for Trump!


I mean, if they're both the same, you can feel good about voting for your tyrant, right? Bottom line, show me proof, not innuendo, and we'll have a discussion - otherwise, you've been duped.

Duped, wow, you have already come to a conclusion and the investigation is still ongoing! Standby, more is coming

I have no problem with this statement. Vote for whomever you choose. In my view, you are just wrong in your thinking or feelings.

I don't go to Trump rallies nor wear Trump hats, etc, etc., etc. In my view, Biden is not a good man, he has been a hypocrite his entire political career and continues to be one. Biden believes in democracy? I don't think so!! He believes in whatever gets him what he wants regardless of the process! According to Obama, everyone does have access to good healthcare. As for as a "good education" I believe everyone does have access to an education but it shouldn't just be given to you at the expense of others. Get off your dead _ _ _ and work for it! As for the opportunity to have a successful, fulfilling life, it is there, go work hard for it! If you don't mind, tell me who your first choice would have been sans Biden

I'm 84 years old and was born in a Democrat controlled state and have witnessed first hand the Democrat machine in action. My mother worked for the Probate Judge's office for many years and was promoted to Assistant Probate Judge later. At the next election the existing PJ did not run so my mother entered the race. She was the first female to run for public office in my county and I witnessed the lawless Democrat machine in action in this alleged election. My mother lost because of the money distributed for votes by the Democrat machine. You didn't have to go looking for it, it was right there in front of you.

Where is your proof that almost all racist are Republicans?

dpic73, the Democrats are the ones that want to control everyones life now. Check out the border. It is illegal to do what the Biden administration is doing at the border and all the Dems in Congress support him. Lately, there are some Dems that are speaking out after a tremendous number of Dems votes have crossed the border illegally.

I agree with here but I think the outcome I support will be different than yours. Except for rape women do have control over their bodies and their reproductive health. Having unprotected sex is a choice by the individual. Willingly killing of the unborn violates the very rights you suggest for everyone. The unborn does not have a vote here so what is happening is exactly what you suggest in freedom of choice.

Where is your proof here? I don't think Obama was a secret Muslim. I take him for his actions here. Who mentored him and what church he attended and supported.

Me either! Where do you get all this garbage you stated above?

I won't argue with you about liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It depends on your definition of "Stimulating. When you throw enough free money into the economy it will eventually boon and unfortunately create more problems than it cured. Check the inflation level in America!

Check out the history of developing dictatorships like the old Russia, Germany, and Italy to name a few. One of the first things they do is round up all the guns from its citizens. I wonder why they do that? Tell me the last time or any time where a gun has gotten up and killed someone? Never happened and never will . People kill!!

Check out your stance on abortion!!



Governments don't supply innovation or new industries. Secondly, if you were part of the cause of a pandemic I would think you should be part of the solution. Growing information is coming out of the investigations of our part in the development of the disease that caused their pandemic. Continue to monitor the investigation and let's see where is finally goes.


Nany Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, AOC and her group, Sheila Jackson Leigh, Adam Schiff, etc. fully support your absurd accusations above. I think I have a much clearer picture of you and your thinking now and you have lived up to my original thoughts on you. I wish you nothing but the best and appreciate your candid thoghts and expression...
There's no difference between a tax cut and cutting someone a check. It's only bad and "free money" when a Democrat does it.
 
Sure, go back to the end of WWII. It won't change the end result.

So now you want to move the goal post . Let's look at it this way I believe Trump created more jobs in a single 4 year term than all others . Obama and Clinton served 8 years.

For me personally I gained more wealth during the Reagan, Clinton, and Trump years. The worst Carter, Obama,2nd term of Bush.
 
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So now you want to move the goal post . Let's look at it this way I believe Trump created more jobs in a single 4 year term than all others . Obama and Clinton served 8 years.

For me personally I gained more wealth during the Reagan, Clinton, and Trump years. The worst Carter, Obama,2nd term of Bush.

My next question is why not compare Apple's to Apple's by using stats from the last 3 expresident Bush , Bush , Trump...
LOL,Do you really want to go there? It'll just get worse for you.

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"Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work..."

You, "nothing about the economy."
Because at its core the Republican party has only historically cared about one demographic, white people who aren't poor. That's it. I'm not even saying it's all because of racism. A lot of it is just because that's their main constituency.
 
I never said I was going to give you proof of Biden's abuse of his powers. You suggested that I give you proof, but unlike Liberals, I am still monitoring the situation and reflecting on data that has been found to date. Do you agree that the laptop in question, indeed, belongs to Hunter?

Again, you are indicating I did something (voted for Trump) that you have no knowledge of so you need to abide by those things you suggest - show me proof I voted for Trump!


I mean, if they're both the same, you can feel good about voting for your tyrant, right? Bottom line, show me proof, not innuendo, and we'll have a discussion - otherwise, you've been duped.

Duped, wow, you have already come to a conclusion and the investigation is still ongoing! Standby, more is coming

I have no problem with this statement. Vote for whomever you choose. In my view, you are just wrong in your thinking or feelings.

I don't go to Trump rallies nor wear Trump hats, etc, etc., etc. In my view, Biden is not a good man, he has been a hypocrite his entire political career and continues to be one. Biden believes in democracy? I don't think so!! He believes in whatever gets him what he wants regardless of the process! According to Obama, everyone does have access to good healthcare. As for as a "good education" I believe everyone does have access to an education but it shouldn't just be given to you at the expense of others. Get off your dead _ _ _ and work for it! As for the opportunity to have a successful, fulfilling life, it is there, go work hard for it! If you don't mind, tell me who your first choice would have been sans Biden

I'm 84 years old and was born in a Democrat controlled state and have witnessed first hand the Democrat machine in action. My mother worked for the Probate Judge's office for many years and was promoted to Assistant Probate Judge later. At the next election the existing PJ did not run so my mother entered the race. She was the first female to run for public office in my county and I witnessed the lawless Democrat machine in action in this alleged election. My mother lost because of the money distributed for votes by the Democrat machine. You didn't have to go looking for it, it was right there in front of you.

Where is your proof that almost all racist are Republicans?

dpic73, the Democrats are the ones that want to control everyones life now. Check out the border. It is illegal to do what the Biden administration is doing at the border and all the Dems in Congress support him. Lately, there are some Dems that are speaking out after a tremendous number of Dems votes have crossed the border illegally.

I agree with here but I think the outcome I support will be different than yours. Except for rape women do have control over their bodies and their reproductive health. Having unprotected sex is a choice by the individual. Willingly killing of the unborn violates the very rights you suggest for everyone. The unborn does not have a vote here so what is happening is exactly what you suggest in freedom of choice.

Where is your proof here? I don't think Obama was a secret Muslim. I take him for his actions here. Who mentored him and what church he attended and supported.

Me either! Where do you get all this garbage you stated above?

I won't argue with you about liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It depends on your definition of "Stimulating. When you throw enough free money into the economy it will eventually boon and unfortunately create more problems than it cured. Check the inflation level in America!

Check out the history of developing dictatorships like the old Russia, Germany, and Italy to name a few. One of the first things they do is round up all the guns from its citizens. I wonder why they do that? Tell me the last time or any time where a gun has gotten up and killed someone? Never happened and never will . People kill!!

Check out your stance on abortion!!



Governments don't supply innovation or new industries. Secondly, if you were part of the cause of a pandemic I would think you should be part of the solution. Growing information is coming out of the investigations of our part in the development of the disease that caused their pandemic. Continue to monitor the investigation and let's see where is finally goes.


Nany Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, AOC and her group, Sheila Jackson Leigh, Adam Schiff, etc. fully support your absurd accusations above. I think I have a much clearer picture of you and your thinking now and you have lived up to my original thoughts on you. I wish you nothing but the best and appreciate your candid thoghts and expression...
I never said I was going to give you proof of Biden's abuse of his powers. You suggested that I give you proof, but unlike Liberals, I am still monitoring the situation and reflecting on data that has been found to date. Do you agree that the laptop in question, indeed, belongs to Hunter?
Yes, and I've said so recently on this site but what does that have to do with anything? It didn't implicate Biden in any crimes but even if you believe he is the "Big Guy", he wasn't in office at the time, it's not illegal to make money and the deal was never consummated anyway. Basically, you have NOTHING but innuendo from the right-wing echo chamber.

Again, you are indicating I did something (voted for Trump) that you have no knowledge of so you need to abide by those things you suggest - show me proof I voted for Trump!
You did

I have no problem with this statement. Vote for whomever you choose. In my view, you are just wrong in your thinking or feelings.
I'm wrong in saying Biden reflects my values better than Trump? LMAO, I think I know what I think and believe.

If you don't mind, tell me who your first choice would have been sans Biden
There was no rockstar candidate in 2020 but I took a detailed questionnaire to help me figure out who I was most aligned with and the results showed that Buttigieg and Bloomberg reflected my values the most. I love Buttigieg but sadly, I don't think America is ready for him yet. The type of candidate I'd like to see run in 2024 would be someone like Jim Himes, Tim Ryan, Chris Murphy or Jason Crow. I really like Newsome as well because he would be the best candidate to stand toe to toe with Trump or DeSantis on the debate stage but he may have too much baggage. If he moved closer to the center, he might be the best of the above.

Where is your proof that almost all racist are Republicans?
It's blatantly clear if you look at it honestly

Me either! Where do you get all this garbage you stated above?
Dude




Governments don't supply innovation or new industries. Secondly, if you were part of the cause of a pandemic I would think you should be part of the solution.
See Chips Act, Infrastructure bill, Climate bill etc...

I wasn't asking you to tell me where I got it wrong - I was giving you an honest answer for why I am a Democrat.
That's all.
 
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Sure, go back to the end of WWII. It won't change the end result.

Probably the best was Clinton who had a Republican Congress and him as President

Reagan set Clinton up to succeed and all Clinton had to do was drink Scotch and smoke s fine Cuban

Divided government works best
 
Because at its core the Republican party has only historically cared about one demographic, white people who aren't poor. That's it. I'm not even saying it's all because of racism. A lot of it is just because that's their main constituency.

You breathe in air on a different planet from me

The black folk I talk to every day and I am white as it gets don’t all share you thinking

Of course there are the vote only Democrat blacks but there are lots of blacks who support Republicans

Problem they tell me is that if they come out in support of Republicans the liberal left will do everything to destroy them

This black folks are complaining about the the crap the Democratic party is feeding them but don’t have a solution at this time.

And to be clear the Democratic Party is the party of murder mayhem and poverty for the black population

Blacks as a group as long as they follow the Democratic party will never improve their poverty level standing

I know this because I am working as an independent community activist and see tge results of the Democratic plantation mentality toward the black and Latino popultion
 
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Money for freedom??? What a crock of shit that is. He's like the PTL Club where "followers" blindly send him money no strings attached. If he's as rich as he states then why is it necessary to send him more???
 
You breathe in air on a different planet from me

The black folk I talk to every day and I am white as it gets don’t all share you thinking

Of course there are the vote only Democrat blacks but there are lots of blacks who support Republicans

Problem they tell me is that if they come out in support of Republicans the liberal left will do everything to destroy them

This black folks are complaining about the the crap the Democratic party is feeding them but don’t have a solution at this time.

And to be clear the Democratic Party is the party of murder mayhem and poverty for the black population

Blacks as a group as long as they follow the Democratic party will never improve their poverty level standing

I know this because I am working as an independent community activist and see tge results of the Democratic plantation mentality toward the black and Latino popultion
I'm not talking about private citizens, you nitwit. I'm talking about the party and its approach to governing.

I know there are plenty of black republicans, but there's a helluva lot fewer now than there used to be 20 and 30 years ago. Ponder why that is for a while, on whichever planet you're currently residing. Nice to see you admit it's not earth finally.
 
Probably the best was Clinton who had a Republican Congress and him as President

Reagan set Clinton up to succeed and all Clinton had to do was drink Scotch and smoke s fine Cuban

Divided government works best
He left him with huge deficits. Reagan was strong against the Soviets, but his image unfairly benefits from what was their inevitable collapse
 
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So now you want to move the goal post . Let's look at it this way I believe Trump created more jobs in a single 4 year term than all others . Obama and Clinton served 8 years.

For me personally I gained more wealth during the Reagan, Clinton, and Trump years. The worst Carter, Obama,2nd term of Bush.
Why truncate it at 3? And anyway, I'd still take Carter, Clinton, and Obama's economies combined over the others.
 
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Why truncate it at 3? And anyway, I'd still take Carter, Clinton, and Obama's economies combined over the others.

Carter = interest rates 14 to 21% no way , Obama lied about his insurance deal known as Obama care. Under Obama my company retirement insurance when from 197.00 per month to 814.00 per month. My wife's insurance went from 215.00 per month to 445.00 per month. After Trump was elected and changed some of the rules my wife's dropped to 45.00 per month but she dropped from a BC/BS silver plan to a bronze plan. I am now on medicare .

 
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The type of candidate I'd like to see run in 2024 would be someone like Jim Himes, Tim Ryan, Chris Murphy or Jason Crow. I really like Newsome as well because he would be the best candidate to stand toe to toe with Trump or DeSantis on the debate stage but he may have too much baggage. If he moved closer to the center, he might be the best of the above.
I want to amend this to add three names I can't believe I forgot - Gretchen Whitmer, Jamie Raskin and Andy Beshear - the country's most popular Dem Governor and in a ruby red state to boot.
 
"Liberals are better at stimulating the economy. It’s not a coincidence that, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 41 million jobs were created during the 20 years of the last 3 Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton and Obama) and only half that many (21 million) jobs during the 20 years of the last 3 Republican presidencies before Trump (Reagan, Bush and Bush). Putting more money in the hands of the middle class has been proven to stimulate the economy better than tax cuts for the rich and that has repeatedly been proven as the Republican tax cuts have added to the deficit more than any other governmental policy. Trickle down economics do not work..."

You, "nothing about the economy."
That doesn't even meet the baseline about discussing economy. It s him saying libs are better and wow is that a surprise coming from him. His entire post was devoid of facts but all about feelings.
 
This is the end of Republican Democracy if this lunatic attempt at election interference is allowed to continue

Donating money and am calling my friends to volunteer my time to counter attack the people who hate America

I am not talking about Trump I am talking about weaponizing the legal system against your political opponents

Hoping we turn it around for us independent conservatives and when we win we are going to
have open season on you leftist socialist communist Chinese Communist Party loving Democrats

You folks are betraying America and at some point the good will win

Important point no riots or violence by our side like the 500 plus riots sponsored by the Democrats

Peaceful protests using legal voting and the real legal system

Clean out the corruption in the DOJ FBI and IRS

Come folks if you care for your children and grandchildren the Democratic March to sell out to the Chinese Communist Party must be stopped
LOCK HER UP!

HANG MIKE PENCE AND STOP THE LEGAL CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!

HOLD A RALLY ON THE STEPS OF THE ROTUNDA AND TELL EVERYONE YOU ARE WALKING UP TO STOP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE CERTIFICATION!

Work with the biggest news organization in America to deceive viewers to believe the election was 'rigged' or 'stolen' when behind the scenes you know this is false and you are doing it on behalf of a sitting president.

You call state election officials and pressure them to FIND a certain number of votes for you.

You organize false slates of electors to try and rig the election and destroy the constitutional process of certifying the election despite privately admitting you lost the election and couldn't prove anything in the courts.

Are you catching on?? (and I can go on and on...)
 
LOCK HER UP!

HANG MIKE PENCE AND STOP THE LEGAL CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!

HOLD A RALLY ON THE STEPS OF THE ROTUNDA AND TELL EVERYONE YOU ARE WALKING UP TO STOP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE CERTIFICATION!

Work with the biggest news organization in America to deceive viewers to believe the election was 'rigged' or 'stolen' when behind the scenes you know this is false and you are doing it on behalf of a sitting president.

You call state election officials and pressure them to FIND a certain number of votes for you.

You organize false slates of electors to try and rig the election and destroy the constitutional process of certifying the election despite privately admitting you lost the election and couldn't prove anything in the courts.

Are you catching on?? (and I can go on and on...)
I am catching on to Clemben being on hard drugs.
 
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That doesn't even meet the baseline about discussing economy. It s him saying libs are better and wow is that a surprise coming from him. His entire post was devoid of facts but all about feelings.
My post wasn't intended to give an in-depth review of the economy treason boy. But what I said was true and you can't dispute what I actually said. Try it!
 
I am a Patriot and you are the equivalent of a torie.
Hating other people is not patriotism and it sure as hell doesn't put America First
She says it perfectly👇




...he didn’t make “covid disappear”, didn’t make Mexico “pay for the wall”, he didn’t “put America First” and he sure as hell didn’t “drain the swamp”. So when you say he “fought for you”, you mean he validated your hate. Because he didn’t do a goddamn thing for you other than that. He hates who you hate. And sadly, that’s all you think you need."
 
LOCK HER UP!

HANG MIKE PENCE AND STOP THE LEGAL CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!

HOLD A RALLY ON THE STEPS OF THE ROTUNDA AND TELL EVERYONE YOU ARE WALKING UP TO STOP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE CERTIFICATION!

Work with the biggest news organization in America to deceive viewers to believe the election was 'rigged' or 'stolen' when behind the scenes you know this is false and you are doing it on behalf of a sitting president.

You call state election officials and pressure them to FIND a certain number of votes for you.

You organize false slates of electors to try and rig the election and destroy the constitutional process of certifying the election despite privately admitting you lost the election and couldn't prove anything in the courts.

Are you catching on?? (and I can go on and on...)
@dpic73 please tell him that he just believes everything he's told.
 
Hating other people is not patriotism and it sure as hell doesn't put America First
She says it perfectly👇




...he didn’t make “covid disappear”, didn’t make Mexico “pay for the wall”, he didn’t “put America First” and he sure as hell didn’t “drain the swamp”. So when you say he “fought for you”, you mean he validated your hate. Because he didn’t do a goddamn thing for you other than that. He hates who you hate. And sadly, that’s all you think you need."
LMFAO. I will give you credit for being able to peddle some high quality bs.
 
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