Texas Governor

[DaTater]

looking to reopen the state.

Possibly passing an executive order with steps to getting the economy going this week. Said the ones with immunity and less affected would be the first to go back. Interested to see how it plays out.

I’m under the belief we have to get something going. If it means opening up in stages, so be it. Parts of the country may not be able to as quickly, but the current business model can’t continue much longer.

 

[TMcGrady1]

looking to reopen the state.

Possibly passing an executive order with steps to getting the economy going this week. Said the ones with immunity and less affected would be the first to go back. Interested to see how it plays out.

I’m under the belief we have to get something going. If it means opening up in stages, so be it. Parts of the country may not be able to as quickly, but the current business model can’t continue much longer.

They don’t even know how long the immunity lasts, who really has some form of immunity, who could still be spreading weeks after they thought they were fully recovered. Great thought, but pump the brakes on the timeframe ya old Texas Gunslinger. Need more info and way more testing!

 

[WinstonW101]

They don’t even know how long the immunity lasts, who really has some form of immunity, who could still be spreading weeks after they thought they were fully recovered. Great thought, but pump the brakes on the timeframe ya old Texas Gunslinger. Need more info and way more testing!

Maybe we should just wait for ten years .. people have truly gone crazy

 

[DaTater]

Didn’t release details so it could be starting May 1.

 

[steele-tiger]

They should at least wait for more details on antibodies tests which should be coming soon.

I do think it spread less effectively in the best so that benefits Texas as well

 

[TMcGrady1]

Maybe we should just wait for ten years .. people have truly gone crazy

I’m all about reopening within reason and sooner rather than later. But OP implied that might be starting this week, and that seems a little early.

 

[DaTater]

I’m glad he is at least looking into it. All it takes is one to step out, then the others join. Could it backfire? Sure. Could we be ok? Maybe. Don’t know until you venture out.

 

[DaTater]

I’m all about reopening within reason and sooner rather than later. But OP implied that might be starting this week, and that seems a little early.

sorry if I mislead. I tried to clarify later. He is looking into issuing one but no definite date for starting it, from what I read.

 

[andcam]

Maybe we should just wait for ten years .. people have truly gone crazy

I am not sure you can argue shutting down things is crazy. Why? The places that most aggressively shut down things have had their curves flatten better than the ones who waited. Also most of my family lives in the south in a nice town where the hospital intensive care runs 95 percent full most of the time. This is typical of most mid sized cities and They just don’t have the capacity to handle hundreds of additional cases which would happen if you allow it to spread too fast. I am not saying this is great but even Trump gets that you can’t flood the system all at once with patients you can’t service. Would it not be more crazy to do nothing and watch thousands die for lack of icu capacity?

 

[tigerGUY]

looking to reopen the state.

Possibly passing an executive order with steps to getting the economy going this week. Said the ones with immunity and less affected would be the first to go back. Interested to see how it plays out.

I’m under the belief we have to get something going. If it means opening up in stages, so be it. Parts of the country may not be able to as quickly, but the current business model can’t continue much longer.

What business model? Printing more money is easy.

 

[DaTater]

I am not sure you can argue shutting down things is crazy. Why? The places that most aggressively shut down things have had their curves flatten better than the ones who waited. Also most of my family lives in the south in a nice town where the hospital intensive care runs 95 percent full most of the time. This is typical of most mid sized cities and They just don’t have the capacity to handle hundreds of additional cases which would happen if you allow it to spread too fast. I am not saying this is great but even Trump gets that you can’t flood the system all at once with patients you can’t service. Would it not be more crazy to do nothing and watch thousands die for lack of icu capacity?

the shutting down hasn’t bothered me as much as the exit strategy. When’s the right time to open up? You can’t wait months to let people go back to work. There has to be some common ground somewhere in the middle.

 

[DaTater]

What business model? Printing more money is easy.

cant wait until the peso is worth more than our dollar.

 

[andcam]

the shutting down hasn’t bothered me as much as the exit strategy. When’s the right time to open up? You can’t wait months to let people go back to work. There has to be some common ground somewhere in the middle.

good point. Totally agree things need to be balanced and a reasonable middle ground should be achieved with balancing risk of mass casualties vs long term depression. Both are extremely important

 

[DaTater]

good point. Totally agree things need to be balanced and a reasonable middle ground should be achieved with balancing risk of mass casualties vs long term depression. Both are extremely important

not trying to be morbid but after the dust settles, I’d be interested to see Virus deaths vs economic related deaths (suicides, losing health coverages, etc). I think everyone is so focused on preventing virus deaths, that people are forgetting the other side. Just my opinion, worth about as much as y’all paid for it.

 

[TigerBones]

As a public health professional, the best treatment for this new virus is social distancing with self isolation for those that have had close contact w/ a known positive and quarantine for patients that have tested positive. I fully appreciate the angst and frustration fir the economy being shutdown, but if reopening of the economy I’d not done very carefully there will be spikes in new cases and deaths. Until we have enough testing to better screen for people that are asymptomatic positive, then some level of social distancing and use of masks will probably be our best option.

 

[1Clemson]

good point. Totally agree things need to be balanced and a reasonable middle ground should be achieved with balancing risk of mass casualties vs long term depression. Both are extremely important

Brilliant! Trash the US economy to the point Americans are going to Mexico for opportunity, then Mexico will build the wall.

This is stable genius level strategery.

 

[DrPeterVenkman]

What business model? Printing more money is easy.

You didn’t take macroeconomics did you?

 

[johnhugh]

#DieForTheDOW

 

[cent]

I am not sure you can argue shutting down things is crazy. Why? The places that most aggressively shut down things have had their curves flatten better than the ones who waited. Also most of my family lives in the south in a nice town where the hospital intensive care runs 95 percent full most of the time. This is typical of most mid sized cities and They just don’t have the capacity to handle hundreds of additional cases which would happen if you allow it to spread too fast. I am not saying this is great but even Trump gets that you can’t flood the system all at once with patients you can’t service. Would it not be more crazy to do nothing and watch thousands die for lack of icu capacity?

Is this true? Florida now thinks they are at the peak or a few days past it...saw on CNN today if that is true I thought they didn’t do nearly enough relative to NY. We are peaking everywhere in the world within 5-7 days of each other regardless of approach..not sure why other than way more people have had this than anyone thinks and the surge we just experienced was the peak...social distancing helped but may not have been the driving factor

 

[treetiger]

Maybe we should just wait for ten years .. people have truly gone crazy

Everyone is worried and concerned, but as you satirically said, we just cannot let this go on too much longer without permanently destroying our economy and nation. Of course we have about half of the population in this country that hopes that will happen, so they they can get rid of Donald Trump, and/or fundamentally change this nation (to communism or socialism), and/or rid our economy of oil, gas, airplanes, and cars, so they can implement to socialist 'Green New Deal'. I've heard leftist actors, activists, political figures, etc., actually admit to that!!! But I think Donald Trump knows what to do and ain't gonna let that happen

It makes you wonder if the Wicked Witch of the East (Arkansas) Hillary Clinton had become president the economy would have already been in shambles, before the Coronavirus did its thing. We would then be in a depression that would have made the 'Great Depression' seem mild. But given the fact that Trump had this economy rolling gives us a chance to survive and come back, which I believe what Trump said, in that this economy will rebound and hit even new highs!!!

 

[liquidlinx]

Good for them...

Texas has 25,000,000 people so far 226 people from that state are dead of Covid-19. What the heck are they supposed to do? Stay locked up for something that ‘might’ happen?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/states/texas/texas.htm

I guess moving forward we should just wrap ourselves in bubble wrap and never go out? Texas had 10,700 people die in accidents in 2017. Those could have eliminated if we would have just stayed at home and didn’t go out. I don’t see how people don’t see this ridiculousness of this. Places with outbreaks should go on major quarantine like New York, New Jersey, Detroit, Baton Rouge, but holding everyone to these standards seems excessive. We have much more testing than we had 2 weeks ago.

I’m sure they know where the majority of there cases are located. Maybe they keep those areas/ counties quarantined while allowing others to resume normal activities while still practicing social distancing and keeping the at risk quarantined. There has to be a smarter way than locking everyone up.

 

[ForzaTigre]

It’s a serious issue but it seems like most anyone that dies from the state of South Carolina is elderly. You cannot keep an economy shut down because you have people who are 90 years old and dying. That sounds cruel, I don’t care. The fact of the matter is you can’t keep doing it.

Everything has to be state by state. New York City will be shut down for a long time but the majority of areas in the nation will open back up sooner than later for sure.

 

[rjohn19]

cant wait until the peso is worth more than our dollar.

Will not happen- we are the world's pet currency. Going back to the Reagan days of voodoo economics, the monetarists ruled the economic roost. Guys like Milton Friedman changed how we looked at inflation as part of the trickle down sell.

Old school economics said inflation was too many dollars chasing too few goods. The monetarists conflated that to simply an increase in the money supply- regardless of whether or not that supply was chasing any goods. We put the lie to that with the 2008 collapse when trillions were created world-wide with not a sign of inflation anywhere.

We were the leaders in that money creation and not only no inflation- there was no weakening of the dollar. We're still the only game in town because the only two contenders, Europe and China have problems greater than we have. The European Union is a herd of cats that could fall apart at any time- Britain just left and all the southern countries are suffering greatly with forced austerity (never works) thanks to their inability to "print" their own money. China lies about everything, including financial numbers. You can't base the world's banking system on a manipulated currency.

We're safe for the foreseeable future.

 

[piperdog188]

Everyone is worried and concerned, but as you satirically said, we just cannot let this go on too much longer without permanently destroying our economy and nation. Of course we have about half of the population in this country that hopes that will happen, so they they can get rid of Donald Trump, and/or fundamentally change this nation (to communism or socialism), and/or rid our economy of oil, gas, airplanes, and cars, so they can implement to socialist 'Green New Deal'. I've heard leftist actors, activists, political figures, etc., actually admit to that!!! But I think Donald Trump knows what to do and ain't gonna let that happen

It makes you wonder if the Wicked Witch of the East (Arkansas) Hillary Clinton had become president the economy would have already been in shambles, before the Coronavirus did its thing. We would then be in a depression that would have made the 'Great Depression' seem mild. But given the fact that Trump had this economy rolling gives us a chance to survive and come back, which I believe what Trump said, in that this economy will rebound and hit even new highs!!!

I’m relieved to be on the opposite side of the argument as @treetiger.

 

[treetiger]

I’m relieved to be on the opposite side of the argument as @treetiger.

I'm relieved that I hate communists and socialists like you. Your side is losing regardless of this pandemic, and you will have another 4 years to cry in misery because of it. That's what satisfies me. It's not stupid idiots like you that concern me, because idiots are all over the place. I'm sure you sit in rooms filled with them. I bet you hear a lot in your circles the famous comment from Forrest Gump's mother: "Momma used to say stupid is as stupid does"...

 

[kgwillison]

Everyone is worried and concerned, but as you satirically said, we just cannot let this go on too much longer without permanently destroying our economy and nation. Of course we have about half of the population in this country that hopes that will happen, so they they can get rid of Donald Trump, and/or fundamentally change this nation (to communism or socialism), and/or rid our economy of oil, gas, airplanes, and cars, so they can implement to socialist 'Green New Deal'. I've heard leftist actors, activists, political figures, etc., actually admit to that!!! But I think Donald Trump knows what to do and ain't gonna let that happen

It makes you wonder if the Wicked Witch of the East (Arkansas) Hillary Clinton had become president the economy would have already been in shambles, before the Coronavirus did its thing. We would then be in a depression that would have made the 'Great Depression' seem mild. But given the fact that Trump had this economy rolling gives us a chance to survive and come back, which I believe what Trump said, in that this economy will rebound and hit even new highs!!!

You guys are hilarious. How many communists even exist in the world anymore let alone the US. There is no legitimate interest in communism here. But John Birch lives on TI and there is a commie behind every tree. SMH.

 

[piperdog188]

I'm relieved that I hate communists and socialists like you. Your side is losing regardless of this pandemic, and you will have another 4 years to cry in misery because of it. That's what satisfies me. It's not stupid idiots like you that concern me, because idiots are all over the place. I'm sure you sit in rooms filled with them. I bet you hear a lot in your circles the famous comment from Forrest Gump's mother: "Momma used to say stupid is as stupid does"...

LOL you got me Tree. Voted for Bush twice as well as McCain and Romney, but I’m a communist.

 

[jimbob1019]

They don’t even know how long the immunity lasts, who really has some form of immunity, who could still be spreading weeks after they thought they were fully recovered. Great thought, but pump the brakes on the timeframe ya old Texas Gunslinger. Need more info and way more testing!

So how long should we take to figure out immunity?
I mean, we can’t be closed forever.

 

[jimbob1019]

It’s a serious issue but it seems like most anyone that dies from the state of South Carolina is elderly. You cannot keep an economy shut down because you have people who are 90 years old and dying. That sounds cruel, I don’t care. The fact of the matter is you can’t keep doing it.

Everything has to be state by state. New York City will be shut down for a long time but the majority of areas in the nation will open back up sooner than later for sure.

This.

The VAST majority of people that have died from this are elderly. Yes, it’s sad to see anyone die BUT with almost any virus, sickness, or disease, the elderly are always at the highest risk. It’s the circle of life. Elderly folks die first...not sure why that’s offensive to say, bc death is something we all will face at some point.

But we can’t leave on country in shutdown mode forever bc of it either. Doing so is risking our country’s future...our children’s future.

We need to shelter the elderly & compromised while the rest of us get back to work.

 

[andcam]

Everyone is worried and concerned, but as you satirically said, we just cannot let this go on too much longer without permanently destroying our economy and nation. Of course we have about half of the population in this country that hopes that will happen, so they they can get rid of Donald Trump, and/or fundamentally change this nation (to communism or socialism), and/or rid our economy of oil, gas, airplanes, and cars, so they can implement to socialist 'Green New Deal'. I've heard leftist actors, activists, political figures, etc., actually admit to that!!! But I think Donald Trump knows what to do and ain't gonna let that happen

It makes you wonder if the Wicked Witch of the East (Arkansas) Hillary Clinton had become president the economy would have already been in shambles, before the Coronavirus did its thing. We would then be in a depression that would have made the 'Great Depression' seem mild. But given the fact that Trump had this economy rolling gives us a chance to survive and come back, which I believe what Trump said, in that this economy will rebound and hit even new highs!!!

I don’t think ppl want to hold this up to hurt Trump. It is not in anyone’s interest to isolate and hurt their own pocketbooks. I don’t like Trump but I sure as heck don’t want to ruin him enough to majorly hurt my finances. Lots of ppl feel the way they do bc they are fearful of dying. Also Trump will get a free pass if the economy tanks anyway due to the virus..it is not like the economy went bad due to some policy of his. Sure he can and should be dinged for calling it a hoax and saying we will only have a handful of cases but that has nothing to go with the economy.

 

[andcam]

Brilliant! Trash the US economy to the point Americans are going to Mexico gor opportunity, the Mexico will build the wall.

This is stable genius level strategery.

Not sure how you read that in my post but I guess you are saying there is no middle ground. Just open up economy RIGHT NOW FULL ThROTTLE bc money is more important than lives? Right ?

 

[Howard's Jock]

Maybe we should just wait for ten years .. people have truly gone crazy

Holy hyperbole

 

[piperdog188]

Brilliant! Trash the US economy to the point Americans are going to Mexico gor opportunity, the Mexico will build the wall.

This is stable genius level strategery.

Come on man lol. You can't expect anyone to take you seriously if you are going to say completely outlandish things like this.

 

[andcam]

not trying to be morbid but after the dust settles, I’d be interested to see Virus deaths vs economic related deaths (suicides, losing health coverages, etc). I think everyone is so focused on preventing virus deaths, that people are forgetting the other side. Just my opinion, worth about as much as y’all paid for it.

Again, your point is very relevant esp related to long-standing US policy which has always sought to find a good balance between the environment and the economy. (As an example). One life should not destroy the entire economy is sort of the extreme example. We do need to look carefully to see if we were too aggressive or not aggressive enough.

 

[CUFreeze]

May 1st I believe most will start to open back up. Obviously going to depend on the state you are in. I'm in FL and we are still getting 1100 new cases every day. The plan is for 14 days with a decrease in cases and enough ventilators to service people. If it started to decline now we would be at the end of April but I believe it will be more like end of May.

 

[1Clemson]

Come on man lol. You can't expect anyone to take you seriously if you are going to say completely outlandish things like this.

Jokes and sarcasm aren’t meant to be serious except for those that take everything literally.

I thought it was pretty good- I gored almost every ox.

 

[1Clemson]

Not sure how you read that in my post but I guess you are saying there is no middle ground. Just open up economy RIGHT NOW FULL ThROTTLE bc money is more important than lives? Right ?

Sorry.
Captured wrong poster/quote. It was in reference to Da Tater’s dollar sinking to the peso. Think BLUE font.

 

[DaTater]

Sorry.
Captured wrong poster/quote. It was in reference to Da Tater’s dollar sinking to the peso. Think BLUE font.

if only there was a sarcasm font

 

[Da Swami]

looking to reopen the state.

Possibly passing an executive order with steps to getting the economy going this week. Said the ones with immunity and less affected would be the first to go back. Interested to see how it plays out.

I’m under the belief we have to get something going. If it means opening up in stages, so be it. Parts of the country may not be able to as quickly, but the current business model can’t continue much longer.

His name is Dr Gregg Abbott

 

[MaxCalifornia]

looking to reopen the state.

Possibly passing an executive order with steps to getting the economy going this week. Said the ones with immunity and less affected would be the first to go back. Interested to see how it plays out.

I’m under the belief we have to get something going. If it means opening up in stages, so be it. Parts of the country may not be able to as quickly, but the current business model can’t continue much longer.

Yes. I saw on the news, the traffic to get to the food donations in San Antonio was insane. People can’t continue to live without working.