Tough watching Deshaun be a villain…

[tboonpickens]

Bad night to have a 4th round rookie make his first start at RT instead of a Pro Bowler. Lining up against TJ Watt is not a recipe for success for anyone much less a rookie. DW4 looked bad at times, but his OL sucked, they lost the best RB in the league, and his WRs didn't make many plays for him.

I agree there's a weird energy around him now for sure. A damn shame to see. Makes me sad.

 

[ClemsonTiger92]

Bad night to have a 4th round rookie make his first start at RT instead of a Pro Bowler. Lining up against TJ Watt is not a recipe for success for anyone much less a rookie. DW4 looked bad at times, but his OL sucked, they lost the best RB in the league, and his WRs didn't make many plays for him.

I agree there's a weird energy around him now for sure. A damn shame to see. Makes me sad.

Cooper on a snap count didn’t help either. They don’t have any good wrs other than cooper. Losing chubb is devastating for their offense and season

 

[BigTimeTiger]

True colors and all that. At some point you are away from the shields and protections and have free will to make the decisions That define you as a person. He is Toxic, doubt he is ever welcomed back in tigertown

It’ll be ok. One day you might get a handjob too. Just remember if all fails, oriental spas are just waiting for you!

 

[BigTimeTiger]

If you believe that he is a great person, you have terrible judgement.

Ok ok, you too huh? Handjobs for everyone!

Lots of stones being thrown around in this thread.

 

[TigerGrowls]

Pittsburgh scores 2 defensive touchdowns and hits a 71 yard TD on one chunk play when their offense was shut down most of the night. Cleveland outplayed Pittsburgh for most of the night and lost it on 3 worst case scenario fluke plays that all went against them. DW4 is not where he will be in a month but he is on his way. I think he still has it and will show it this season. There was defensive interference on that last 4th down play too that wasnt called even though the official had a clear view.

 

[douggainey]

Yes, I have met him but that has nothing to do with it. A “great person” does not make the decisions that he has made.

You clearly will never meet or know a great person then...

 

[TigerJR]

You clearly will never meet or know a great person then...

Another poster showing his ignorance and poor judgement.

 

[TigerJR]

Ok ok, you too huh? Handjobs for everyone!

Lots of stones being thrown around in this thread.

No stones being thrown. Just stating facts

 

[Tiger2526]

True colors and all that. At some point you are away from the shields and protections and have free will to make the decisions That define you as a person. He is Toxic, doubt he is ever welcomed back in tigertown

He was just in Tigertown. Speak for yourself

 

[Clemsontrav16]

No stones being thrown. Just stating facts

You've yet to state a fact though. You simply stated an opinion and degrade anybody who has a differing opinion. And you've been asked several times what exactly you think makes him a bad person. And you've yet to answer that question. Idk him personally so i can only judge him by others who know him. His teammates and Dabo in particular speak highly of him so I assume he's a good dude that got caught up some things he should've left alone.

 

[douggainey]

Another poster showing his ignorance and poor judgement.

Ok.

 

[acwill07]

You are making a fool of yourself

Actually you're the one making a fool out of yourself.

 

[tigerc]

If you believe that he is a great person, you have terrible judgement.

No, it is called forgiveness. What does the Bible say about those without sin cast the first stone.

 

[Howard's Jock]

I had no clue if he was a great person when he was on top of the world and i have no idea now.

 

[Howard's Jock]

No stones being thrown. Just stating facts

Ironically you haven’t stated one yet.

 

[okclem]

True colors and all that. At some point you are away from the shields and protections and have free will to make the decisions That define you as a person. He is Toxic, doubt he is ever welcomed back in tigertown

Hate it but totally agree.

 

[santee]

I get all that’s gone on.

But he doesn’t project a good vibe now either. Getting unsportsmanlike penalties. Looks a little disinterested.

Just so different than his days at Clemson.

You are a major part of this board going to crap OP...such a stupid post...15 yard penalty forgetting his hand stuck in a player trying to tackle hims facemark

 

[funkbott]

I’ll always love him as a Tiger, but as a Browns fan he’s been pretty gawd awful so far. Just another in a looooong line of mediocre, at best, Browns QBs

No offfense, but I sure wish he had gone to literally any other franchise…Browns are cursed

Don’t be stupid

I think you might have a little misunderstanding with everything that went down with DW’s “situation” because you sure don’t seem to know what you’re talking about

 

[santee]

Yes, I have met him but that has nothing to do with it. A “great person” does not make the decisions that he has made.

Was David a good person....he certainly made mistakes

There are plenty of good people who have made mistakes

You are obviously void of forgiveness

 

[OrangeInlet12]

I get all that’s gone on.

But he doesn’t project a good vibe now either. Getting unsportsmanlike penalties. Looks a little disinterested.

Just so different than his days at Clemson.

I don't know why you're getting beat up for this. I'm with you. Kind of played like an a$$ last night...dragging 2 people to the ground by the facemask and shoving a referee.

 

[TigerJR]

No offfense, but I sure wish he had gone to literally any other franchise…Browns are cursed

I think you might have a little misunderstanding with everything that went down with DW’s “situation” because you sure don’t seem to know what you’re talking about

Enlighten me! He made terrible decisions. How can anyone disagree?

 

[TigerJR]

Was David a good person....he certainly made mistakes

There are plenty of good people who have made mistakes

You are obviously void of forgiveness

Big stretch! I made a factual statement. He made terrible decisions. I am in no way judging him.

 

[TigerJR]

Ironically you haven’t stated one yet.

Here it is again for you- He made terrible decisions.

 

[CrouchingTiger72]

Is he the same guy even remotely that he was or player? I am not sure he can go through all of what he went through and come out the same. Still rooting for him.

 

[VaTiger85]

You are a major part of this board going to crap OP...such a stupid post...15 yard penalty forgetting his hand stuck in a player trying to tackle hims facemark

He did it twice to kill two drives.

But I’ll acquiesce that those were football plays so maybe a little harsh on the unsportsmanlike part.

I’m rooting for him and absolutely think he’s paid his penance and want him to succeed.

I’ll stick with the bad vibe feel though. He also looks more like Jacoby Brissett than himself. Seems to have aged about 10 years.

 

[152thinblueline]

Right. He just did the same thing again.

He did the same thing here too... it just didn't get called.

 

[152thinblueline]

DW4 will be fine.

 

[12Ghost12]

Another poster showing his ignorance and poor judgement.

King David committed murder and adultery, yet God referred to him as the apple of his eye.

Only ONE great Man never made bad decisions

A little grace goes a long way; you know, the whole, "by whatsoever standard you judge, by the same standard shall ye be judged".

Just saying...

 

[TigerGrowls]

MSM is skewering DW4. This is just going to make him stronger. He cares and he will get it done imo. What NFL qb does not make a lot of mistakes? Not throwing darts but a lot of top tier qb's have looked shaky the first 2 weeks and they are not being treated like DW4 by the media.

 

[ruckusman]

Lol this thread is great! I love a good ole internet pillow fight!

 

[bron90]

I don't know why you're getting beat up for this. I'm with you. Kind of played like an a$$ last night...dragging 2 people to the ground by the facemask and shoving a referee.

 

[okclem]

Idk exactly what’s going on ITT, but that throw he just made off the goal line looked an awful lot like another clutch throw off the goal line from 2016 at FSU

To Deon Cain on a crucial 3rd down, that probably made the difference in the game. It was a beauty.

 

[okclem]

King David committed murder and adultery, yet God referred to him as the apple of his eye.

Only ONE great Man never made bad decisions

A little grace goes a long way; you know, the whole, "by whatsoever standard you judge, by the same standard shall ye be judged".

Just saying...

Yep, you guessed it...Frank Stallone.

 

[tigerGUY]

True colors and all that. At some point you are away from the shields and protections and have free will to make the decisions That define you as a person. He is Toxic, doubt he is ever welcomed back in tigertown

Quite frankly, I find it amazing you know all about DW4 and who he really is and exactly what happened. While you may never welcome him back, I know thousands that will. I'm one of them. Keep throwing rocks and living in a glass house and see what the final result is.

 

[nmerritt11]

It all started after he started hanging with Mia Khalifa...

Seriously...dude made some young and dumb mistakes and let the wrong head do his thinking but at the end of the day, they could not find anything to prosecute him for. He did not rape anyone and not enough evidence of sexual misconduct to prosecute.

People out there using dating websites to get laid all the time. You cannot sit and look at any poster with a straight face and say some chick on instagram, who is not a massage therapist, is going to accept money to fly in, come to Watson's house and not think there are some strings attached.

It was a money grab...dumb ass decision by DW. DW has done a ton for the community in Houston and in his home town. People are letting bad decisions by a young man, that is not married, skew his entire persona.

He is welcome at Clemson, likely always will be, and I hope like hell he becomes the elite QB we know he can be and this has been a learning lesson

There are guys out there that have done much worse and been welcomed at Clemson. Ray Lewis gave a freaking pregame speech...

 

[Docg2]

Big stretch! I made a factual statement. He made terrible decisions. I am in no way judging him.

Big stretch ? I believe David set up a man to be killed so he could have his wife. Yet David was said to be a man after Gods own heart. Humans will do human things. DW4 deserves the same grace as David I would think

 

[Casa_del_Tigre]

I’ll always love him as a Tiger, but as a Browns fan he’s been pretty gawd awful so far. Just another in a looooong line of mediocre, at best, Browns QBs

5-4 record as the Browns starting QB. If that’s pretty gawd awful how would you describe the last few decades?

 

[The89Tiger]

It all started after he started hanging with Mia Khalifa...

Seriously...dude made some young and dumb mistakes and let the wrong head do his thinking but at the end of the day, they could not find anything to prosecute him for. He did not rape anyone and not enough evidence of sexual misconduct to prosecute.

People out there using dating websites to get laid all the time. You cannot sit and look at any poster with a straight face and say some chick on instagram, who is not a massage therapist, is going to accept money to fly in, come to Watson's house and not think there are some strings attached.

It was a money grab...dumb ass decision by DW. DW has done a ton for the community in Houston and in his home town. People are letting bad decisions by a young man, that is not married, skew his entire persona.

He is welcome at Clemson, likely always will be, and I hope like hell he becomes the elite QB we know he can be and this has been a learning lesson

There are guys out there that have done much worse and been welcomed at Clemson. Ray Lewis gave a freaking pregame speech...

Great summary!

 

[7tiget6]

Another poster showing his ignorance and poor judgement.

Add me to the list I guess, cause you’re a ****ing moron

 

[chassc]

Yep, you guessed it...Frank Stallone.

Safe to say, this story is……………Far From Over…


I’ll see myself out.