Transgender “Open” Division

[childoforange]

Right now, there are two major divisions in sports: men and women.

In order to save girls and women from the ridiculous notion that biological males should be able to compete physically with biological females, what do you think about the creation of an “open” division where it doesn’t matter what sex you are?

 

[athigpe]

Would be an obvious solution, but people would say it’s segregatory in nature and would not accept.

 

[DandyDozen12]

Right now, there are two major divisions in sports: men and women.

In order to save girls and women from the ridiculous notion that biological males should be able to compete physically with biological females, what do you think about the creation of an “open” division where it doesn’t matter what sex you are?

It won’t happen because the absurdity in our country knows no bounds

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

Right now, there are two major divisions in sports: men and women.

In order to save girls and women from the ridiculous notion that biological males should be able to compete physically with biological females, what do you think about the creation of an “open” division where it doesn’t matter what sex you are?

I too listen to Joe Rogan.

But this is not inclusive. Plus, this is my last avenue to becoming a professional athlete.

 

[CUFam98]

Since the Olympics say there is no advantage for biological males competing against women, I'm anxiously waiting for a biological female to zip tie one on and compete against men. Maybe change the qualifications to offset the additional wind drag that she didn't have before.

So far this "non-advantage" is only working in one direction. Wonder why?

 

[VTiger15]

How about transgenders are disqualified from competitions period? This would protect women and would free up time for them to get psychological and spiritual help.

 

[CU1TruTiger4Life]

 

[ClemOpie]

Just call what we have now the “XX division” and the “XY division” and stop making them specific to a label and more specific to your chromosomes.

Kidding. Kinda.

 

[Poker_Tiger]

 

[Whenry]

I agree. Insane asylums should be allowed to have sports teams

 

[DandyDozen12]

Just call what we have now the “XX division” and the “XY division” and stop making them specific to a label and more specific to your chromosomes.

Kidding. Kinda.

I mean one would think that’s the logical conclusion of this movement. The eradication of genders all together. However, that also won’t happen because at the core of this movement is the classification of every individual into all sorts of groups - their intersections so to speak. So eradicating gender or even classifying it so simply as you joke, would go against everything it wants - for you to be you and proud, regardless of how ridiculous it is

 

[Champs_16]

After hearing the equality war drums 24x7x365 at work I think it’s funny. Get some of that equality you’re stuffing down my throat you dumb B’s.

 

[Captainclemson]

If I was a female sprinter or weightlifter who had been training for 15 years to attain my goal of competing in the Olympics then found out I would be competing against a man, I would be pissed......

 

[santee]

Well primarily because there aren't enough transgender athletes to field a competition

Transgender athletes have been competing since Rene Richards in professional tennis 40 years ago


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Renée Richards​

American tennis player

Description​

Description​

Renée Richards is an American ophthalmologist and former tennis player who had some success on the professional circuit in the 1970s, and became widely known following male-to-female sex reassignment surgery, when she fought to compete as a woman in the 1976 US Open. Wikipedia
Born: August 19, 1934 (age 86 years), New York, NY
Spouse: Barbara Mole (m. 1970–1975)
Children: Nicholas Raskind
Education: University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry, MORE
Parents: Sade Muriel Raskind, David Raskind
Siblings: Josephine

 

[wmnesbitt]

Lets go full at this

make gymnastics categories the same for both male and female.

make the volleyball nets the same height

are the basketballs still different sizes? Let beer drinking men on the softball teams.

this push if successful will create men only sports sending us back a couple hundred years.

the push to include this extremely small percentage of the world in our already defined sports does not end well. Either create the open division or keep things as is.

what we need is for some rich trangendered athlete to create their own league of sports. Except the most famous of those doesnt agree with the lefts view of inclusion.

 

[santee]

Well primarily because there aren't enough transgender athletes to field a competition and hopefully there never will be

Transgender athletes have been competing since Rene Richards in professional tennis over 40 years ago


https://www.google.com/search?q=renee+richards&client=safari&channel=mac_bm&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=HpGMOUG5z_0d7M%2CkKyM0aWdeojCaM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQLGKz814Md6yyg7uF_XVw__CuvnA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjy0tSI4bLxAhUIac0KHQ7QC3QQ_h16BAggEAE#imgrc=HpGMOUG5z_0d7M
https://www.google.com/search?q=renee+richards&client=safari&channel=mac_bm&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=oQrbhF4Zs8WWUM%2CRLcI0d8k9UVnBM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSFTrGUwAnzhfAirEyk4tQ0wb_VeQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjy0tSI4bLxAhUIac0KHQ7QC3QQ_h16BAgcEAE#imgrc=oQrbhF4Zs8WWUM

Renée Richards​

American tennis player

Description​

Description​

Renée Richards is an American ophthalmologist and former tennis player who had some success on the professional circuit in the 1970s, and became widely known following male-to-female sex reassignment surgery, when she fought to compete as a woman in the 1976 US Open. Wikipedia
Born: August 19, 1934 (age 86 years), New York, NY
Spouse: Barbara Mole (m. 1970–1975)
Children: Nicholas Raskind
Education: University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry, MORE
Parents: Sade Muriel Raskind, David Raskind
Siblings: Josephine

 

[GoodWord28]

It isn’t a problem. We’re talking about maybe a dozen men competing in women’s sports.

 

[godabo44]

Just because a guy is physically stronger and has a pickle doesn’t mean he can’t say he’s a she and go collect medals. Women just have to accept it. Way of life in today’s “Weird, Upside Down World.” .

 

[DandyDozen12]

It isn’t a problem. We’re talking about maybe a dozen men competing in women’s sports.

Fair enough…a dozen too many

 

[clemsonu0219]

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Hahahahahahaha

 

[FLOtiger93]

Fair enough…a dozen too many

Username checks

 

[DandyDozen12]

Username checks

Hahahaha yes it does lol. Unintended but hilarious nonetheless

 

[Trading Tiger]

It isn’t a problem. We’re talking about maybe a dozen men competing in women’s sports.

I'm confused...if even 1 black person is killed by a cop, no matter how justified, that means all cops are racist, the whole system is racist, every white person in the country is racist. But when a dozen or so women lose out on the opportunity that they've been working their entire lives for, you say it's not a problem??

A logical thinking, non-hypocrite person would say that makes you sexist and misogynistic, it makes the whole system sexist and misogynistic, it makes every trans and trans supporting person sexist and misogynistic.

Why do y'all hate women so much? Did your mommy not hug you enough?

 

[DeathValley_13]

I just hope it affects the 85 for football. That's all it will take for this to go away

 

[childoforange]

I too listen to Joe Rogan.

But this is not inclusive. Plus, this is my last avenue to becoming a professional athlete.

Believe it or not I came up with that all by myself. I have enjoyed listening to Joe Rogan from time to time but I’m mostly a Ben Shapiro and Adam Corolla guy.

 

[Clemtron]

It isn’t a problem. We’re talking about maybe a dozen men competing in women’s sports.

I knew we'd find you here eventually...

 

[nmerritt11]

Unbelievable people would be OK with men dominating women’s sports or even women on testosterone to become a male which should fall under the performance enhancing drugs being illegal rule

Female Olympic wrestling team here I come

 

[TICrack]

Can we send Wake Forest and Syracuse to this open division?

 

[SloanStreetTiger06]

I tend to agree that it’s not THAT big of a problem RIGHT NOW. Maybe 10 trans men I’ve heard of competing in women’s sports. That being said I have a 7 year old daughter that loves tennis. If she’s a teenager competing against a trans boy, I know it would be an issue to me then. May have to turn on the heckle machine. “I know you can beat her. Just aim right for her balls.” Idk, I have a few years to come up with better material.

 

[nmerritt11]

I tend to agree that it’s not THAT big of a problem RIGHT NOW. Maybe 10 trans men I’ve heard of competing in women’s sports. That being said I have a 7 year old daughter that loves tennis. If she’s a teenager competing against a trans boy, I know it would be an issue to me then. May have to turn on the heckle machine. “I know you can beat her. Just aim right for her balls.” Idk, I have a few years to come up with better material.

The first sentence is my problem…the more we say it isn’t “that big of a problem” and tolerate it the bigger problem it will be. Society has gotten to the point that the silent majority is letting the crying minority take over the country and get whatever they want

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

The things that bother some of you ... SMFH.

 

[JAMCRACKER99]

I'm confused...if even 1 black person is killed by a cop, no matter how justified, that means all cops are racist, the whole system is racist, every white person in the country is racist. But when a dozen or so women lose out on the opportunity that they've been working their entire lives for, you say it's not a problem??

A logical thinking, non-hypocrite person would say that makes you sexist and misogynistic, it makes the whole system sexist and misogynistic, it makes every trans and trans supporting person sexist and misogynistic.

Why do y'all hate women so much? Did your mommy not hug you enough?

It's interesting that people like you feel that the message in those situations is that every white person is racist when I have never felt that way. You claim to not be racist at all but your posting history definitely says otherwise.

 

[Cloud 9]

It's a big enough issue that in Road Races (Running) we have created a division called Neutral to solve the issue.

So for example people can sign up as M,F or N.

In SC alone that I am aware of, there are at least 6 gender-neutral people that are competing for awards.

 

[PAWrocka]

Right now, there are two major divisions in sports: men and women.

In order to save girls and women from the ridiculous notion that biological males should be able to compete physically with biological females, what do you think about the creation of an “open” division where it doesn’t matter what sex you are?

Won’t work …

Here is the thing, biological sex doesnt matter to these people, gender is fluid and gender is what you believe you are. These people and their allies, dont believe that they are trans women, they believe they are women .... period. SOOOOOOOo a separate division, that absolutely makes sense and 100% personally agree with , would still be "discriminatory" to them.

This is how insane these people and their allies are .... there is actually a debate on whether or not if a biological male refuses to date/have relations with a trans woman, does that make him transphobic and a bigot. This biological male could be the most liberal open person ever, but if they wont date a trans woman.... they are transphobic in the eyes of these people.


I said this a couple weeks ago ... I personally dont care what someone does. Love who you want to love, be who you want to be. You want me to call you Sally when you were born Jim, Im fine and will respect that. You want to live your life as a female when you were "assigned" male at birth, Ok cool .....you want me to use they them pronouns for you, Ok sure, please understand that grammatically thats difficult and your asking people to overhaul the English language for the sole purpose of YOUR comfort, but cool ...I will do it .... because Im polite...... BUT I will never ever ever ever EVER agree that biological men have any business competing in womans sports, nor will I ever agree that Men can menstruate and get pregnant AND if you cant tolerant my VERY tolerant views, that makes YOU the asshole, not me.

Its just amazing to me how quickly we went from "I just want to live my life and love who I want to love" to "Tolerate and respect my lady dick and if you dont we will ruin your life!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[GoodWord28]

I'm confused...if even 1 black person is killed by a cop, no matter how justified, that means all cops are racist, the whole system is racist, every white person in the country is racist. But when a dozen or so women lose out on the opportunity that they've been working their entire lives for, you say it's not a problem??

A logical thinking, non-hypocrite person would say that makes you sexist and misogynistic, it makes the whole system sexist and misogynistic, it makes every trans and trans supporting person sexist and misogynistic.

Why do y'all hate women so much? Did your mommy not hug you enough?

Y’all? What do you mean y’all? Why are you grouping me? Lol

you sound insecure.

 

[GoodWord28]

Fair enough…a dozen too many

Would you call it….nondanzy dozen??

 

[Cheap Shot]

Well primarily because there aren't enough transgender athletes to field a competition

Transgender athletes have been competing since Rene Richards in professional tennis 40 years ago


https://www.google.com/search?q=renee+richards&client=safari&channel=mac_bm&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=HpGMOUG5z_0d7M%2CkKyM0aWdeojCaM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQLGKz814Md6yyg7uF_XVw__CuvnA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjy0tSI4bLxAhUIac0KHQ7QC3QQ_h16BAggEAE#imgrc=HpGMOUG5z_0d7M
https://www.google.com/search?q=renee+richards&client=safari&channel=mac_bm&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=oQrbhF4Zs8WWUM%2CRLcI0d8k9UVnBM%2C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kSFTrGUwAnzhfAirEyk4tQ0wb_VeQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjy0tSI4bLxAhUIac0KHQ7QC3QQ_h16BAgcEAE#imgrc=oQrbhF4Zs8WWUM

Renée Richards​

American tennis player

Description​

Description​

Renée Richards is an American ophthalmologist and former tennis player who had some success on the professional circuit in the 1970s, and became widely known following male-to-female sex reassignment surgery, when she fought to compete as a woman in the 1976 US Open. Wikipedia
Born: August 19, 1934 (age 86 years), New York, NY
Spouse: Barbara Mole (m. 1970–1975)
Children: Nicholas Raskind
Education: University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry, MORE
Parents: Sade Muriel Raskind, David Raskind
Siblings: Josephine

This. Transgender people make up a fraction of 1% of the population, despite the media having you think that your closest friend or neighbor may secretly be trans. The amount of pandering we do for such a small fraction of the population is unreal to me.

 

[GoodWord28]

I'm confused...if even 1 black person is killed by a cop, no matter how justified, that means all cops are racist, the whole system is racist, every white person in the country is racist. But when a dozen or so women lose out on the opportunity that they've been working their entire lives for, you say it's not a problem??

A logical thinking, non-hypocrite person would say that makes you sexist and misogynistic, it makes the whole system sexist and misogynistic, it makes every trans and trans supporting person sexist and misogynistic.

Why do y'all hate women so much? Did your mommy not hug you enough?

Follow up: what’s my opinion on what you would call BLM and police brutality? Read up on it. It’s easy to find buddy

 

[rocky29670]

It'll be interesting to see if the NWSL (that's the National Womens Soccer League) reacts to one of their players "coming out" as a transgendered man. Are they now going to allow men in the league? If so, which owner tries to get a competitive advantage by signing a bunch of men in order to win.

It's a slippery slope for the league, how woke do they want to be. A bunch of guys could identify as women in order to compete professionally, and probably dominate, or does the league go the complete opposite direction and kick out this "man" out of the womens league.

Japanese soccer player Yokoyama comes out as transgender

Japanese soccer player Kumi Yokoyama said they are transgender — a revelation praised in the U.S. where they play in the National Women’s Soccer League but an identity not legally recognized in Japan.

apnews.com

NWSL’s transgender player policy needs work

While the league is correct in addressing the need for such a policy, they haven’t come up with one that feels very inclusive.

www.allforxi.com

I think it's kind of ridiculous that they have to have these policies, you should be limited to your gender at birth, not what you identify as.

 

[PAWrocka]

It'll be interesting to see if the NWSL (that's the National Womens Soccer League) reacts to one of their players "coming out" as a transgendered man. Are they now going to allow men in the league? If so, which owner tries to get a competitive advantage by signing a bunch of men in order to win.

It's a slippery slope for the league, how woke do they want to be. A bunch of guys could identify as women in order to compete professionally, and probably dominate, or does the league go the complete opposite direction and kick out this "man" out of the womens league.

Japanese soccer player Yokoyama comes out as transgender

Japanese soccer player Kumi Yokoyama said they are transgender — a revelation praised in the U.S. where they play in the National Women’s Soccer League but an identity not legally recognized in Japan.

apnews.com

NWSL’s transgender player policy needs work

While the league is correct in addressing the need for such a policy, they haven’t come up with one that feels very inclusive.

www.allforxi.com

I think it's kind of ridiculous that they have to have these policies, you should be limited to your gender at birth, not what you identify as.

will she automatically get paid more????

Megan Rappinoe losing her spot on the Women's National Team to a trans woman who gets paid more than her would be funny AF!