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Trump addressing Congress 03/04

@dpic73
What’s this?

You’re rebuttal to sanity is this guy?

This speech is a blasphemous, putrid, shit-soaked inferno of absolute, weapons-grade insanity—a unhinged, drooling madhouse projectile-barfing gibberish about transgender mice, fictional 300-year-old Social Security leeches, frothing-at-the-mouth vaccine psychosis, and a smug, delusional chest-thump over wokeness being torched to ashes. Not a single ****ing whisper about smashing inflation into the dirt, dragging our miserable education system out of the gutter, or stopping Social Security and Medicare from swan-diving into a bottomless pit of doom. It’s a soul-crushing, IQ-melting shitstorm—a total ****ing abomination—and yet, those Republican ****wits rocket up, drooling and whooping like lobotomized circus seals tweaking on meth.

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This dude would have him as his hero
 
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So republicans are going to take a minority cancer patient and virtue signal him to cut Medicaid and entitlements? Do you even have an original thought. Do you even read what you type? How does this plan go down John? Enlighten us.
Virtue signal with a pediatric cancer survivor to put on a show that your side cares about kids. Then gut Medicaid and other programs that provide services to children in need. It’s hypocritical. But Trump knows his base doesn’t care about substance, they just care about “owning the libs”
 
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I know Joe Biden and the entire Democratic Party hate everything to do with a strong, independent, free and successful America. They tried to censor, eliminate women’s spaces, they allowed immigrants and fentanyl to pour over our borders, wasted billions on woke bullshit, they did nothing for the common man. You can keep that garbage. And pretending you know something about macro economics and the ramifications of certain policy is laughable. You can’t even answer a simple question.
Why do democrats keep having to clean up republican messes then? We do this every 4-8 years. Elect a republican, shit goes good for a bit then comes crashing down. Elect a Democrat to fix it, things get better. People get complacent and a republican convinces the masses that things could be better. Elect a republican, shit goes good for a bit then comes crashing down. It’s an endless cycle. When was the last time a Democrat president inherited a strong economy? When was the last time a republican inherited an economy that was in worse shape than when a republican was last in office? Gotta be decades. Certainly not since 1992
 
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Really bad look for Dems.

They have a couple of very vulnerable seats. Elon will be financing those races.

We can get there!


 
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Agree. I am so exhausted with the constant " teams" mentality with politics.

We had a friend over to our house last week who is much,much more liberal than I am. Slwe were discussing the last election, and I was saying that the Democrats need to move to the middle, Find some better candidates, and be willing to provide some common sense on topics that freak out the right such as Trans Rights. You can say that we need to value their rights as an adult to live their life as they want, you can resoect and defend their legal rights to be employed, etc, while still saying that the situation with the swimmer at Florida was wrong and unfair.

When I left the room, she told me wife she thought I was a closet Trump fan(which didn't go well for her with my wife lol). I don't cheer for a team, they are candidates who need to win my vote, I don't work for them. I am very much a realist and truly pretty moderate.

We have got to get away from so much "teams mentality" to political parties. There are definitely Republicans who I would have voted for in the last election. I can't stand Trump and thinks he's scum, regardless of which party he claims at the time.
Agree with a LOT of this. I have Trump friends and they don't bother me and I'm certainly not dumping friends I've had for years over someone I'm almost 100% certain I'll never even meet.

I also agree on the issues that Dems have picked for themselves recently. Now don't get me wrong, I'm 100% for LGBT rights. That's because I'm 100% for EVERYONE'S rights. In theory we are all equal under the law and I have little patience for any sort of discrimination. Picking what actually effects MAYBE 5% of the population doesn't seem like a winning play to me. Honestly, on a day to day basis, I don't think about gay are trans folks at all.

Being a moderate myself, I can appreciate a move to the center by either party.
 
Really bad look for Dems.

They have a couple of very vulnerable seats. Elon will be financing those races.

We can get there!



Will be interesting to see trends with money behind Rs (historically a huge advantage for dems) and hopefully some tightening of election laws.

Looking at the "toss up" races in 2026, Ossoff should lose in GA and Collins should keep her seat in Maine. That's 53. Peters not running in MI and Tillis will probably keep his seat in NC. So probably 54+ seats for the Rs in 2026.

I don't really see any 2028 seats at major risk for Republicans in 2028. Bunch of red states. And Warnock could easily lose in GA.

TL;DR - Republicans shouldn't lose the senate for a while, which means even if they lose the house and/or presidency in 2028, the left shouldn't be able to pass any nonsense.
 
Why do democrats keep having to clean up republican messes then? We do this every 4-8 years. Elect a republican, shit goes good for a bit then comes crashing down. Elect a Democrat to fix it, things get better. People get complacent and a republican convinces the masses that things could be better. Elect a republican, shit goes good for a bit then comes crashing down. It’s an endless cycle. When was the last time a Democrat president inherited a strong economy? When was the last time a republican inherited an economy that was in worse shape than when a republican was last in office? Gotta be decades. Certainly not since 1992
Do yall forget about the border?
 
Will be interesting to see trends with money behind Rs (historically a huge advantage for dems) and hopefully some tightening of election laws.

Looking at the "toss up" races in 2026, Ossoff should lose in GA and Collins should keep her seat in Maine. That's 53. Peters not running in MI and Tillis will probably keep his seat in NC. So probably 54+ seats for the Rs in 2026.

I don't really see any 2028 seats at major risk for Republicans in 2028. Bunch of red states. And Warnock could easily lose in GA.

TL;DR - Republicans shouldn't lose the senate for a while, which means even if they lose the house and/or presidency in 2028, the left shouldn't be able to pass any nonsense.
Why do you say Ossoff should lose? He's done a great job by most accounts so he's a strong incumbent who could benefit from a midterm year, when the opposite party of the president’s historically has gained seats. If he's running against MTG, he should win and only if he's running against Kemp would he stand a good chance of losing, but my gut tells me Kemp wouldn't want to jump into the race for a Senate seat, but who knows.
 
Why do you say Ossoff should lose? He's done a great job by most accounts so he's a strong incumbent who could benefit from a midterm year, when the opposite party of the president’s historically has gained seats. If he's running against MTG, he should win and only if he's running against Kemp would he stand a good chance of losing, but my gut tells me Kemp wouldn't want to jump into the race for a Senate seat, but who knows.
I'll help him out.

Ossoff won with the help of the middle. People like Nicole Shanahan cut him million dollar checks to get elected the first time. He didn't vote the way she wanted and now she has said it is her #1 priority to makes sure he doesn't win re-election. She is a multi-billionaire and said she would fund his opponent. She means business if you haven't been paying attention to her.

On top of that, I would say that Georgia leans red more than it leans blue. It's of my opinion that 2020 was more of an anomaly than anything else, and Trump won Georgia convincingly this cylce.

I think Ossoff is in serious danger of losing re-election. Republicans will go hard after his seat.





 
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What would you call parading Dylan mulvaney around? After spending millions of tax payer dollars on that trash. That funny stuff too?
2 things.
1. Was Mulvaney at one of Biden's SOTUs? I legitimately don't know since I don't watch them.
2. Trans people aren't "trash", so i'm not sure what your point is unless you just wanted to call trans people trash.
 
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I'll help him out.

Ossoff won with the help of the middle. People like Nicole Shanahan cut him million dollar checks to get elected the first time. He didn't vote the way she wanted and now she has said it is her #1 priority to makes sure he doesn't win re-election. She is a multi-billionaire and said she would fund his opponent. She means business if you haven't been paying attention to her.

On top of that, I would say that Georgia leans read more than it leans blue. It's of my opinion that 2020 was more of an anomaly than anything else, and Trump won Georgia convincingly this cylce.

I think Ossoff is in serious danger of losing re-election. Republicans will go hard after his seat.





If you only vote the way big donors approve of, are you really doing your job? You don't think there are other big donors that will get behind him? Would Shanahan put her money behind MTG? Again, he's done a good job and that's coming from both sides.

"The first millennial elected to the Senate, Ossoff has maintained a largely low profile. His office has boasted that he passed a record number of stand-alone bills into law as a first-term senator in his first two years in office, and he’s worked on legislation ranging from strengthening oversight into the Federal Bureau of Prisons to mental health care access for military families and service members.

He also received a plum assignment on the Senate Appropriations Committee, and members on both sides of the aisle have lauded him for his constituency services."



“When I led a trade delegation to South Korea last month, securing this LG-Hyundai battery investment to Georgia was a key goal. The IRA’s manufacturing incentives continue to bring jobs and investment to Georgia,” Sen. Ossoff said. “My goal remains to make Georgia the world leader in advanced energy production. I thank LG Chairman Koo Kwang-mo, LG Energy Solutions President David Kim, Hyundai Chairman Chung Eui-sun, Senator Reverend Warnock, and all local and state officials who made today’s historic announcement possible.”

According to the Financial TimesThis is an external link, Georgia is second in the nation in new investments from the IRA’s manufacturing incentives.

Earlier this year, Sen. Ossoff announced another $2.5 billion investment in solar manufacturing by Qcells in Dalton and Cartersville, incentivized by his solar manufacturing legislation within the IRA."


 
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If you only vote the way big donors approve of, are you really doing your job? You don't think there are other big donors that will get behind him? Would Shanahan put her money behind MTG? Again, he's done a good job and that's coming from both sides.

"The first millennial elected to the Senate, Ossoff has maintained a largely low profile. His office has boasted that he passed a record number of stand-alone bills into law as a first-term senator in his first two years in office, and he’s worked on legislation ranging from strengthening oversight into the Federal Bureau of Prisons to mental health care access for military families and service members.

He also received a plum assignment on the Senate Appropriations Committee, and members on both sides of the aisle have lauded him for his constituency services."



“When I led a trade delegation to South Korea last month, securing this LG-Hyundai battery investment to Georgia was a key goal. The IRA’s manufacturing incentives continue to bring jobs and investment to Georgia,” Sen. Ossoff said. “My goal remains to make Georgia the world leader in advanced energy production. I thank LG Chairman Koo Kwang-mo, LG Energy Solutions President David Kim, Hyundai Chairman Chung Eui-sun, Senator Reverend Warnock, and all local and state officials who made today’s historic announcement possible.”

According to the Financial TimesThis is an external link, Georgia is second in the nation in new investments from the IRA’s manufacturing incentives.

Earlier this year, Sen. Ossoff announced another $2.5 billion investment in solar manufacturing by Qcells in Dalton and Cartersville, incentivized by his solar manufacturing legislation within the IRA."


I agree with you that i don't like that money decides elections. I didn't like it when Zuckerberg did it in 2020. Unfortunately, I feel like now it has become a necessary evil although i would be all ears on all proposed fixes.

That being said, it's about getting your message out, and ultimately that takes money. You can have the best message in the world, but if you can't get your message to the masses the odds are stacked massively against you.

It's going to be a tough race for Ossoff to win. He is going to have a lot of explaining to do for his votes. Just my $.02
 
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Not sure if it has been discussed, but can someone clue me in on what in the world is Trump's motive/fascination with Greenland? That seemed really odd, and way,.way out of bounds to basically threaten a neighbor that you will take them over
 
Not sure if it has been discussed, but can someone clue me in on what in the world is Trump's motive/fascination with Greenland? That seemed really odd, and way,.way out of bounds to basically threaten a neighbor that you will take them over
Tinfoil hat: rare earth minerals. With more and more of Greenland "melting" it's opening up more and more access to the abundant rare earth minerals located there.
 
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Tinfoil hat: rare earth minerals. With more and more of Greenland "melting" it's opening up more and more access to the abundant rare earth minerals located there.

That makes sense. The comments I read seems fairly threatening, admittedly I read the quotes, didn't hear them in context because I had long before gone to bed. Like JD Vance on a hit mic, I didn't want to sit through 90 minutes of that shit.
 
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Not sure if it has been discussed, but can someone clue me in on what in the world is Trump's motive/fascination with Greenland? That seemed really odd, and way,.way out of bounds to basically threaten a neighbor that you will take them over
He didn't threaten denmark. He said that we'll get it one way or another. He, like President Eisenhower has offered to buy it. The other way is for the people of greenland (which has some weird relationship with denmark) to vote to disassociate with denmark in which case we could deal directly with them. Trump has used that to put pressure on denmark (unsuccessfully so far) .essentially saying, lets make a deal where you get paid for it ... or the people vote to leave and you get nothing . Reasons are natural resources and its strategic location and access to the arctic. We have had a military presence in greenland for decades, and demark has said that is secure and i think due to trump's interest is willing to talk to us about us expanding our footprint if neeeded. With that said, it's better for us if we own the ground.
 
He didn't threaten denmark. He said that we'll get it one way or another. He, like President Eisenhower has offered to buy it. The other way is for the people of greenland (which has some weird relationship with denmark) to vote to disassociate with denmark in which case we could deal directly with them. Trump has used that to put pressure on denmark (unsuccessfully so far) .essentially saying, lets make a deal where you get paid for it ... or the people vote to leave and you get nothing . Reasons are natural resources and its strategic location . We have had a military presence in greenland for decades, and demark has said that is secure and i think due to trump's interest is willing to talk to us about us expanding our footprint if neeeded. With that said, it's better for us if we own the ground.

Thanks for the background. It was just fairly shocking to hear a modern US president so aggressively talk about taking on territories.
 
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Thanks for the background. It was just fairly shocking to hear a modern US president so aggressively talk about taking on territories.
There are people who don't like his style, but he is not afraid to think outside the box and attempt to will things into existance.

I forgot one other thing... i think Trump as part of the offer to buy greenand at the same time he's rattling economic sabers at the EU, proposed some sort of additional economic carrot to denmark regarding trade as part of the deal. The other part of the pitch is that greenland is a financial drain on Denmark so cutting it loose would also eliminate a +- $800million annual expenditure (0.18% of denmark's GDP) that they really get nothing in return for (they aren't a military superpower and they aren't developing the natural resources to any extent).

He's going to continue to peck away at it, i'm sure for the rest of his term.

But it's not as crazy an idea as it might seem... IMO

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The United States has made several attempts to acquire Greenland over the years. Here are some notable instances:

  1. 1867: U.S. Secretary of State William H. Seward expressed interest in purchasing Greenland after successfully acquiring Alaska from Russia.
  2. 1910: A proposal was made for a three-way land swap involving Greenland.
  3. 1946: The U.S. offered $100 million in gold to Denmark for Greenland, but the offer was declined.
  4. 2019: During his first term, President Donald Trump publicly expressed interest in buying Greenland, but the proposal was rejected by Denmark.
  5. 2025: President Trump, after being re-elected, renewed his efforts to acquire Greenland, emphasizing its strategic importance for national security.
Greenland remains a semiautonomous territory of Denmark, and both Greenlandic and Danish authorities have consistently asserted that Greenland is not for sale.

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There are people who don't like his style, but he is not afraid to think outside the box and attempt to will things into existance.

I forgot one other thing... i think Trump as part of the offer to buy greenand at the same time he's rattling economic sabers at the EU, proposed some sort of additional economic carrot to denmark regarding trade as part of the deal. The other part of the pitch is that greenland is a financial drain on Denmark so cutting it loos would also eliminate a +- $800million annual expenditure (0.18% of denmark's GDP) that they really get nothing in return (they aren't a military superpower and they aren't developing the natural resources to any extent).

He's going to continue to peck away at it, i'm sure for the rest of his term.

But it's not as crazy an idea as it might seem... IMO

Copilot says:
The United States has made several attempts to acquire Greenland over the years. Here are some notable instances:

  1. 1867: U.S. Secretary of State William H. Seward expressed interest in purchasing Greenland after successfully acquiring Alaska from Russia.
  2. 1910: A proposal was made for a three-way land swap involving Greenland.
  3. 1946: The U.S. offered $100 million in gold to Denmark for Greenland, but the offer was declined.
  4. 2019: During his first term, President Donald Trump publicly expressed interest in buying Greenland, but the proposal was rejected by Denmark.
  5. 2025: President Trump, after being re-elected, renewed his efforts to acquire Greenland, emphasizing its strategic importance for national security.
Greenland remains a semiautonomous territory of Denmark, and both Greenlandic and Danish authorities have consistently asserted that Greenland is not for sale.
It's part of whats so maddening about Trump, he has some very good ideas and ability to look at things with fresh eyes, but he is such a flawed person with no integrity that it's miserable to live through.

I Will say that history will probably look at Trump's legacy as a turning point for the US for better or worse, I'm not sure which it's gonna be
 
Border crossings are largely unchanged year over year, regardless of administration. They were lower at the end of Biden’s presidency than they were at the end of Trump’s first term. I’m sure you’ll tell me that Biden’s numbers can’t be trusted but Trump’s can.
Holy s-it. Not worth the time.
 
Really bad look for Dems.

They have a couple of very vulnerable seats. Elon will be financing those races.

We can get there!



Honest question. You don't have an issue with the richest person in the planet deciding who is representing the people of the country, while fully understanding that those people are then beholden to that same Billionaire and his business?

You don't see the problem and conflict?
 
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Honest question. You don't have an issue with the richest person in the planet deciding who is representing the people of the country, while fully understanding that those people are then beholden to that same Billionaire and his business?

You don't see the problem and conflict?
I do have a problem with it. But I also had a problem with it when Zuckerberg spent $400mm on the 2020 election.

I could get behind legislation that addresses this.



AI:

Mark Zuckerberg, along with his wife Priscilla Chan, donated a total of approximately $419.5 million to support election efforts during the 2020 U.S. presidential election. This figure includes $350 million contributed to the Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) and an additional $69.5 million to the Center for Election Innovation & Research (CEIR). These funds were distributed as grants to local election offices across the country to help manage voting during the COVID-19 pandemic, covering expenses such as mail-in ballot processing equipment, protective gear, and additional staffing. The exact amount is sometimes cited as slightly higher or lower in various sources (e.g., $400 million or $420 million), but $419.5 million reflects a commonly agreed-upon total based on detailed analyses of the contributions.
 
I do have a problem with it. But I also had a problem with it when Zuckerberg spent $400mm on the 2020 election.

I could get behind legislation that addresses this.



AI:

Mark Zuckerberg, along with his wife Priscilla Chan, donated a total of approximately $419.5 million to support election efforts during the 2020 U.S. presidential election. This figure includes $350 million contributed to the Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) and an additional $69.5 million to the Center for Election Innovation & Research (CEIR). These funds were distributed as grants to local election offices across the country to help manage voting during the COVID-19 pandemic, covering expenses such as mail-in ballot processing equipment, protective gear, and additional staffing. The exact amount is sometimes cited as slightly higher or lower in various sources (e.g., $400 million or $420 million), but $419.5 million reflects a commonly agreed-upon total based on detailed analyses of the contributions.

If we truly want to fix our elections, addressing this is really big. What Musk is doing is quite possibly the closet America has come to an actual Fascist Oligarchy.
 
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It's part of whats so maddening about Trump, he has some very good ideas and ability to look at things with fresh eyes, but he is such a flawed person with no integrity that it's miserable to live through.

I Will say that history will probably look at Trump's legacy as a turning point for the US for better or worse, I'm not sure which it's gonna be
What’s so miserable to live through?
 
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What’s so miserable to live through?

The constant drama, the lies and exaggerating, incidents like the oval office debacle, the pettiness and insults, the constant need to be the victim, etc.

Not to mention tariffs driving up costs and hurting our relationships with our closest allies.

I also hate that the guy can't write a tweet without sounding like a 1st grader with all caps and misspellings.
 
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Why do you say Ossoff should lose? He's done a great job by most accounts so he's a strong incumbent who could benefit from a midterm year, when the opposite party of the president’s historically has gained seats. If he's running against MTG, he should win and only if he's running against Kemp would he stand a good chance of losing, but my gut tells me Kemp wouldn't want to jump into the race for a Senate seat, but who knows.

I don't know how he's viewed in GA, but it seems GA is swinging back to the right.

God help us if MTG runs.
 
Not sure if it has been discussed, but can someone clue me in on what in the world is Trump's motive/fascination with Greenland? That seemed really odd, and way,.way out of bounds to basically threaten a neighbor that you will take them over

Makes total sense for the US to make a play for Greenland for several reasons:

  • It's a strategic location for national and international defense. Doesn't look it on a map, but if you ever take a flight to Europe, you pass by the southern tip of Greenland. It's also closer to Russia as you head north through the Artic. And provides key strategic port and base locations in the Artic region. Here's a visual on the EU flight:
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  • Greenland has large deposits of rare earth elements (REEs), including yttrium, scandium, neodymium, and dysprosium. These elements are used in many advanced technologies, such as electric vehicles, wind turbines, and military equipment.
  • Greenland's rare earth deposits are significant because:
    • They are some of the largest deposits of REEs on Earth
    • They are an attractive alternative to mines outside of North America
    • They are prized for their role in energy transition technologies
  • Greenland has an estimated 31.4 billion barrels of oil equivalent in undiscovered oil, gas, and natural gas liquids.


People may not like the rhetoric, but it's a smart play to find a way for the US to control Greenland.
 
Hammering the border issue was dead on. The border debacle hurt legitimate immigration, which we desperately need. America has thrived with immigrants and first generation Americans as our backbone throughout our history.

The open border mess hurt those legitimate immigrants.
Slandering Haitians didn't help either.
 
The constant drama, the lies and exaggerating, incidents like the oval office debacle, the pettiness and insults, the constant need to be the victim, etc.

Not to mention tariffs driving up costs and hurting our relationships with our closest allies.

I also hate that the guy can't write a tweet without sounding like a 1st grader with all caps and misspellings.
That’s sad that you allow your life to be impacted by this.
 
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