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Trump Admin Includes Atlantic Reporter in Airstrike Plans Group Chat

Major German newspaper Der Spiegel has found the private phone numbers, passwords, emails, etc for Hegseth, Waltz, Gabbard, and others available online. This is another major security breach. Foreign intelligence agents can use this data to basically hack into their communications.

THIS IS WHY YOU DONT USE SIGNAL
 
get help man. you don't have to live your life in a cult. think about what Jesus taught and then think about the disgusting people you've decided to align yourself with here.

I am good with the people I associate and that includes Christianity and Jesus

Just because you wrote it does not mean you practice it

Work on that thought
 
this is A. Embarrassing and B. WTF is this stuff going out over text vs secure email which can be locked down to only a d further compartmentalized beyond that. Ive never done it but i have seen the aftermath...spillage of classified data is a significant emotional event for all involed.

Exactly! We agree and have common ground!
 

Article, interestingly, points out that the CJCS was not included in the chat. Too many reasons to speculate why. But it just seems natural they would be included.

The CJCS would be in the know regardless of being in the group chat. I would assume this is where Hegseth was getting his info to begin with…
 
Another interesting aspect of this is that executive branch conversations are supposed to be archived. They probably do not consider Signal something they need to provide to the archives. It is a way for them to coordinate and do many things without repurcussions.

I assume they are using Signal extensively to communicate classified information using this example.

Plus given that U.S. envoy Witkoff was in the chat group and located in Moscow…you can assume that Russia has compromised Signal and reading everything.

Really bad digital security.
 
The CJCS would be in the know regardless of being in the group chat. I would assume this is where Hegseth was getting his info to begin with…
I would not disagree with that just an interesting observation. Could be many reasons he's not in chat group.

1. just the acting CJCS
2. not one of the cool kids
3. maybe in same room with Pete

Many things with this administration or DJT's 1st administration would be considered outside the norm. Maybe this is. Maybe it is not. But the leak sure is.
 
Another interesting aspect of this is that executive branch conversations are supposed to be archived. They probably do not consider Signal something they need to provide to the archives. It is a way for them to coordinate and do many things without repurcussions.

I assume they are using Signal extensively to communicate classified information using this example.

Plus given that U.S. envoy Witkoff was in the chat group and located in Moscow…you can assume that Russia has compromised Signal and reading everything.

Really bad digital security.
Yall are too desparate for a gotcha here. Its sad to watch. No lib on here even concerned with the mission itself. Lets also just look at Trump foreign policy compared to China Joe Biden and Barry Soetaro. Yall need to put it in correct perspective.
 
Yall are too desparate for a gotcha here. Its sad to watch. No lib on here even concerned with the mission itself. Lets also just look at Trump foreign policy compared to China Joe Biden and Barry Soetaro. Yall need to put it in correct perspective.
It’s in proper perspective, your cult leaders are convincing you it’s a “no biggie” through the use of whataboutism. It’s really sad how effective he is in hijaking once logical people into being drones for an utterly incompetent human being.
 
It’s in proper perspective, your cult leaders are convincing you it’s a “no biggie” through the use of whataboutism. It’s really sad how effective he is in hijaking once logical people into being drones for an utterly incompetent human being.
Trump is winning and will continue to do so for a long time. Yall need to come to terms with it. He is doing what he said he would do and that got him elected. I am extremely happy.
 
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Trump is winning and will continue to do so for a long time. Yall need to come to terms with it. He is doing what he said he would do and that got him elected. I am extremely happy.
We are all happy you are happy. What does anything you said have to do with the actual thread here? Are you trying to convince us or yourself that this is winning?
 
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Major German newspaper Der Spiegel has found the private phone numbers, passwords, emails, etc for Hegseth, Waltz, Gabbard, and others available online. This is another major security breach. Foreign intelligence agents can use this data to basically hack into their communications.

THIS IS WHY YOU DONT USE SIGNAL

You obviously don’t know jack about the dark web and how much data mining that is being done to all Americans
 
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Another interesting aspect of this is that executive branch conversations are supposed to be archived. They probably do not consider Signal something they need to provide to the archives. It is a way for them to coordinate and do many things without repurcussions.

I assume they are using Signal extensively to communicate classified information using this example.

Plus given that U.S. envoy Witkoff was in the chat group and located in Moscow…you can assume that Russia has compromised Signal and reading everything.

Really bad digital security.
Sounds familiar. Maybe they should ask Hillary how to make a home brew server. Also, the Biden admin used the same app.
 
Sounds familiar. Maybe they should ask Hillary how to make a home brew server. Also, the Biden admin used the same app.
But did they use it for non-classified discussions, i.e., discussions that didn't require archiving? If so, that would have been allowed but if they did the same thing, heads should have rolled then too.
 
In the New York Times tonight, foreign affairs journalist Noah Shachtman looked not just at the Signal scandal but also at the administration’s lowering of U.S. guard against foreign influence operations, installation of billionaire Elon Musk’s satellite internet terminals at the White House, and diversion of personnel from national security to Trump’s pet projects, and advised hostile nations to “savor this moment. It’s never been easier to steal secrets from the United States government. Can you even call it stealing when it’s this simple? The Trump administration has unlocked the vault doors, fired half of the security guards and asked the rest to roll pennies. Walk right in. Take what you want. This is the golden age.”
 
But did they use it for non-classified discussions, i.e., discussions that didn't require archiving? If so, that would have been allowed but if they did the same thing, heads should have rolled then too.
It should be easy to check the archives, no?

Just check to see what the Biden admin left behind. I'd assume it's nothing because that is what signal is designed to do.

A lot of heads should have rolled under Democrats admin. Yet, i don't think one person was fired. That is called piss poor management.
 
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I agree, but do you think that maybe they owe an explanation to the American People? I mean they were chatting over their phones about American military ops before said ops took place. And the app they were using was never supposed to have sensitive info on it. As I said above, I don't know that this specific instance is that big a deal myself, but I do think that it's concerning that so many high clearance guys were chatting about sensitive info on an app that they weren't supposed to be using to discuss said info.

My problem is that the Sec of Defense somehow thinks that this is the fault of the reporter. He basically said the dude was deceitful and peddled in garbage. I don't know the reporter, so fair enough, I guess. But my question remains, so there's this reporter that apparently is a bad guy and everyone in the administration hates. So why exactly was this guy invited into your chat about upcoming American Military ops again? And how come this "bad guy" was the one who brought it to your attention? NO ONE noticed that he was even there? Hell, he removed HIMSELF from the group.

Earth to hopefultiger13.....they have extensively explained it and said it's being investigated more and will provide any updates found. The problem is the libs can't take the explanation and just move on. They want to inflict maximum damage on Trump and it's that simple.
 
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Earth to hopefultiger13.....they have extensively explained it and said it's being investigated more and will provide any updates found. The problem is the libs can't take the explanation and just move on. They want to inflict maximum damage on Trump and it's that simple.
Hopefully Elon and BigBalls can get to the bottom of how Mike Waltz had Goldberg's number on his phone since they've never met LULZ

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It should be easy to check the archives, no?

Just check to see what the Biden admin left behind. I'd assume it's nothing because that is what signal is designed to do.

A lot of heads should have rolled under Democrats admin. Yet, i don't think one person was fired. That is called piss poor management.

We’re not talking about Democrats. Republicans won and are on the watch. This is about them.
 
He will win the vast majority of these injunction challenges when they make it to scotus. This is just the resistance. They are not using constitutionality as a determining factor in issuing the injunctions imo.

LOL…what in the world are you talking about? They are interpreting the law based on the Constitution. He is losing…maybe he wins some of these suits…but he will not win them all.
 
LOL…what in the world are you talking about? They are interpreting the law based on the Constitution. He is losing…maybe he wins some of these suits…but he will not win them all.
So you honestly believe these judges are not political activists and just working to slow Trump down?
 
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Do you think the Trump admin intelligence director should be aware of it and not allow the cabinet to be at risk?

You asked a question and the first thing you need to do is open hour mind

Don’t think partisan

Think in terms of a process by which government officials communicate and then archive records

Let me start out by saying recording and archiving everything said by everybody is incredibly difficult

For example lets say a group of 3 guys are hanging out and discussing bombing Iran

In most cases it is just a theoretical

Just playing the game of thinking about potential problems

Generally most conversations and written paper is archived

Let’s just say the people in government are well aware of problems of record keeping

The outrage against this SNAFU is really overblown

Whether you will believe me or not I don’t care

What I will say is stuff like this happens a lot more than we would like it to

YES THE PROPER PEOPLE KNOW OF THE PROBLEM

THERE IS JUST NOT A ONE SOLUTION FITS ALL
 
LOL…what in the world are you talking about? They are interpreting the law based on the Constitution. He is losing…maybe he wins some of these suits…but he will not win them all.



Do you understand that these judges are issuing injunctions on purpose because they know that if they slow down the president in the first six months of his administration that will set the tone for the remaining part of it?

They are issuing injunctions before they have even heard the merits of the case. An injunction should only ever be considered if monetary damages will not make a plaintiff whole.

There are so few instances where monetary damages will not make a plaintiff whole.

These judges know that an injunction is considered an extraordinary remedy, one that should be used in only very specific cases. It’s not to be used to stop the policy of a duly elected president because your team lost.

These judges also know that it could take months if not years to get a case up before the Supreme Court.

So if you think that what this does is only hurt Donald Trump, you don’t understand that the people they’re really hurting are the voters who think they can vote for their choice of president and not be overridden by a bunch of unelected ideologues.

These courts are holding President Trump’s agenda hostage because their team lost.

And if this is the freaking precedent they want to set, Republican judges better be ready to do the same thing if the Democrats should ever win again. I say that knowing damn well that Republican judges will never issue blanket injunctions to stop the other side.

And that is a difference. And that is why it feels like we are always losing because we are never playing by the same rules.
 
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JUST IN: Karoline Leavitt announced Elon Musk and his team will be investigating how a fake news reporter was added to the Signal group

“Elon Musk has offered to put his technical experts on this… to ensure it never happens again.”

If this was a setup, Elon’s about to blow it WIDE OPEN.
 
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