Trump Admin Includes Atlantic Reporter in Airstrike Plans Group Chat
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Again…you think by signing EOs on things he doesn’t have the power or law to support is “positive action.” He will not win most of the lawsuits…because they are actually looking at the law.
I’d have probably thought about that before Biden pardoned himself.
Trump has a blank check
Uhhhh. No. While I agree with the part about inflicting maximum damage being what the Dems want. Exactly like Republicans do when they get there chance. A sad observation on both parties. As I've said before, I personally don't think the information they were texting was that big a deal myself. It's not as if we were attacking the Russians or Chinese, where that information could have made a difference. In this case, those folks don't have a prayer of stopping an American attack. That being said, there's NO WAY that the information on US attacks against an enemy wasn't classified before the attacks begin.
My point has been that instead of just saying "Yep, our bad. We'll fix that going forward." There was all this attacking of the source and how he was a peddler of garbage and dishonest and just flat out lying about that there was no sensitive data there. THAT'S the stupid part. They will get that fixed, I have no doubt. BUT now when the Sec of Defense comes back and says it's all good, he's got no credibility, b/c he lied about it already.
Tulsi also either lied before congress or is incompetent. You can't be the DNI and not know that discussing an attack before it happens is classified.
I'm with you.
My comments are probably a couple pages back in this thread by now, but i didn't like SecDef's comments either. He's not an opinion commentator. He's the SecDef . He could be doing great things in the building but if not a steadying force in public its not in line with what the public on both sides of the aisle expects.
That reporter could be a partisan hack, but it's not the SecDef's role to attack and it flies in the face of common sense to do it when the admin has it's ass out and the reporter could make it worse (and he did). A simple push back/clarification on the "war plans" symantics and maybe small pushback if technically not "classified" would be appropriate. But regardless it is /was a convo that shouldn't been in the public domain so admit that its a fvck up and reassure the public that it will be investigated an measures put in place to prevent a recurrance. It's not that hard.
Heck... if the reporter didn't get attacked maybe, just maybe, there would have been a small chance that the transcript might not have been put out in the public domain. Given that it was a "no harm" situation, the story could have still been a story without the physical transcript. .
Here is more than likely what happened.
When I first heard about the Signal chat, I thought “how did a reporter get added to a small chat with 4 or 5 top Trump admin officials without anyone knowing?”
Then I saw the actual group text list
It had almost 2 dozen people in it, mostly non-senior folks and many only identified by their initials
Now I’m almost certain about what happened - a corrupted staffer added the journalist as part of a Deep State hit to attack the Trump admin
Fire whoever did it
When I first heard about the Signal chat, I thought “how did a reporter get added to a small chat with 4 or 5 top Trump admin officials without anyone knowing?”
Then I saw the actual group text list
It had almost 2 dozen people in it, mostly non-senior folks and many only identified by their initials
Now I’m almost certain about what happened - a corrupted staffer added the journalist as part of a Deep State hit to attack the Trump admin
Fire whoever did it
The problem here, is that classified materials were never allowed to be on signal. So you can hem and haw but you cannot escape that fact.
I have almost as much of an issue with it not being classified. What is wrong with their classification system if the date, time, equipment, and location of an attack isn’t classified?
I don't trust the government no matter who is in charge. Maga is a cult
If yall had just held her accountable you would never have to hear about it again.
But yall never hold anyone accountable. That’s why the government is a bloated pig sty of corruption.
You seriously don’t consider those details war plans? Is it just semantics? Like battle or attack plans vs war plans?
Expected no accountability from TG, but you’ve seemingly had a different tune previously on this so surprised.
I’e never seen an actual war plan so how would I know?
But it doesn’t make much difference to me. It was a mistake. What else do you want us to do? They pledged to get better. If Trump had fired the leaker I would have supported that. He didn’t so we will move on. Not a big discrepancy and not worth dwelling over.
Democrats are latching onto it because it was the first real mistake in an otherwise efficient admin.
They know their supporters are idiots - it's the only explanation. Reading the supposed justification from the MAGA twitter dopes should infuriate them, but they're all simple, so it doesn't.
How many American troops DIED because of the Signal SNAFU? I don't like it, but last I checked it was 13 to zero. Not to mention folks/soldiers wounded. Nobody talks about them because they didn't DIE.
I don't trust the govt...that's true. I do trust Trump. He earned it.
Ohhh yes!!!
🚨 President Donald Trump issues new statement after NBC News presses him on "Signalgate" and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.
Will you fire anyone?
“I don’t fire people because of fake news and because of witch hunts."
Do you have confidence in SecDef @PeteHegseth and Waltz?
"I do."
THEY'RE HERE TO STAY 🔥
🚨 President Donald Trump issues new statement after NBC News presses him on "Signalgate" and National Security Advisor Mike Waltz.
Will you fire anyone?
“I don’t fire people because of fake news and because of witch hunts."
Do you have confidence in SecDef @PeteHegseth and Waltz?
"I do."
THEY'RE HERE TO STAY 🔥
The 4 years in between Trumps first term and second term was a blessing in disguise.
Who did Democrats fire for this? Who did they hold accountable?
This is how democrats govern. Remember that when you go to the voters box. A small mishap on a text chain. Vs a massive blunder where 13 soldiers actually died.
And they want you to hold the small mishap to much higher standards.
Democrats are not authentic
This is how democrats govern. Remember that when you go to the voters box. A small mishap on a text chain. Vs a massive blunder where 13 soldiers actually died.
And they want you to hold the small mishap to much higher standards.
Democrats are not authentic
I guess nothing really matters anymore. Do what you want and as long as less than 13 people die, you’re good.
I wasn’t ok with the Afghanistan’s withdrawal, and the first person to mention it in this thread was…checks notes…me. It was embarrassing and horrible and very poorly executed. The difference as I see it is it was an overall administration failure. There didn’t seem to be a single person to lay the failures at their feet. They made a lot of really bad smaller decisions or determinations that all added up to a disaster. So I can see where maybe they didn’t want to lay the entire failure at one persons or a small fews feet.
To me, this situation and then the response to it makes it feel like Hesgeth is out of his depth. Wish they would’ve used it as an opportunity to find someone equally as loyal but whose experience is greater than a Fox News anchor. While I would still have issues with the unsecure messaging of classified information, if he had responded better, I’d feel better about the “they learned their lesson on this issue and will do better moving forward”.
Anyway, y'all don’t care what I think, have a good one
I wasn’t ok with the Afghanistan’s withdrawal, and the first person to mention it in this thread was…checks notes…me. It was embarrassing and horrible and very poorly executed. The difference as I see it is it was an overall administration failure. There didn’t seem to be a single person to lay the failures at their feet. They made a lot of really bad smaller decisions or determinations that all added up to a disaster. So I can see where maybe they didn’t want to lay the entire failure at one persons or a small fews feet.
To me, this situation and then the response to it makes it feel like Hesgeth is out of his depth. Wish they would’ve used it as an opportunity to find someone equally as loyal but whose experience is greater than a Fox News anchor. While I would still have issues with the unsecure messaging of classified information, if he had responded better, I’d feel better about the “they learned their lesson on this issue and will do better moving forward”.
Anyway, y'all don’t care what I think, have a good one
It will matter when everyone is held to the same standard.
Democrats will be seen as authentic when they hold themselves to the same standard as everyone else.
The democratic mantra seems to be that they want their cronies treated better. They are OK with a two tier justice system .
The world is thirsty for authenticity. The first Democrat to figure that out it going to win.
Newsome is trying it, but he can’t quite be authentic. He still can’t say transgender ideology for children is bad. He still can’t say men should t be in women’s sports
So yes. When you call for someone to be fired over an accidental text when absolutely no one in your administration was fired despite complete incompetence, you look like a fool.
No one believes your concerns, because you weren’t concerned when you were in charge.
You supported a dementia patient for over 4 years (he's sharp as a tack). Sit down and STFU. You should be embarrassed by how STUPID you are, but you will never do it.
There’s a stench in the air.
Goldberg’s decision to remain in the signal chat was neither accidental nor innocent.
We know now that it was a deliberate and malicious act.
Worse, NSA Mike Walz is out spinning gibberish about how Goldberg’s number got “sucked into” Walz’s phone. Right. 🤔
Meanwhile, the long knives are out for @PeteHegseth
It’s war.
Neocons who resisted the anti war Pete’s confirmation have crafted a new way to pressure the Fox News veteran to resign.
Curious how no one skewers Rubio —but he’s one of them.
Tom Cotton, who is rumored to want Pete’s job, has posted furiously in defense of Alex Wong, despite the glaring
red flags.
Most of the heat is on Pete, it’s not focused on climate friendly Mike Walz. Not are talking heads reminding us that Waltz worked for
DICK CHENEY as his counterterrorism
advisor,—yes, the guy with the anti orange chip on his shoulder.
There’s an old bond there.
Coupled with a recently exposed cluster of Biden, Obama holdover moles burrowed in the intelligentsia, we can assume trouble is afoot.
The real issue is not Goldberg’s “accidental” inclusion in the chat, but that he STAYED, for 10 long days…eavesdropping.
By design, apparently. Then the deliberate weaponization of Goldberg’s signal chat findings by the media and holdover Intel moles who seem hellbent on destabilizing the administration.
Trump has a problem.
Expect more SignalGates and back stabbing of Trump 2.0 unless a serious purge forces them out.
But who sees that happening? Rat infestations can be deadly to humans.
You're one of the few on your side, who tries to think with a level head. I for one, notice that.
