it was also a republican created program =/
it's not like he just created some new plan out of thin air - he copied the same plan that republicans in Massachusetts created
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it's not like he just created some new plan out of thin air - he copied the same plan that republicans in Massachusetts created
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Well they’ll just say that Romney isn’t actually a Republican, but nevertheless, it’s the only “socialist” health care plan I’ve ever heard of that enshrined the role of private insurance companies
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Likewise, Obama’s the only “communist” who was pushing for the US to join one of the largest free trade deals ever in the TPP to counter China’s economic influence, but nope, the Donald knew better!
Sure was - many people forget that Universal Health Care was a Republican idea before they were against it.
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You assuming the average rube in Arkansas can spell communism, let alone define it?
Wow. You were born a couple of hundred years to late. Missed your window of paradise.
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OR, I simply believe in personal responsibility and accountability, and that each should earn his/her own...I don't believe that the uber rich should take care of me should I decide that I'm tired of working...I don't believe that the Biden government, or any government should take the inheritance that I leave behind...or that any single red cent that I earn should go to any lazy fvck that chooses to do little/nothing, ESPECIALLY those that just make babies for a living, but all lazies nonetheless
I reread what you wrote, so let me amend my sarcastic response. I, during my libertarian days, would somewhat have agreed with you. Maybe not the execution of parents who can't provide for their offspring, but I get the principle. But I can't conceivably see how we can structure a society based on that anymore. We can to a certain extent, but with over 330M people in this country, it just wouldn't completely work, IMO.
I may not be articulating this well typing on a phone, but first of all you're battling our human nature, if we have to try to aid as a society the improvement of the least economically fortunate, without hampering the development of the more fortunate.
If we hamper the more fortunate, then we may not get the new shiny objects invented. If don't help the less fortunate aren't going to be fortunate long. And about 250M of those less fortunate will pack a societal wallop when they hungry and oppressed enough.
In all seriousness, during my libertarian days, I would have agreed with you on most of this. I still agree with you on the inheritance tax. And social welfare should come with some strings attached like giving back to the state through mandatory work programs, if able. On a smaller scale, you might make it work again like the days of old.
But with a country of over 330M, and human nature being what it is, imo it's not scalable anymore. And people aren't going to stop having children they didn't mean to have. The best we can do as a society is not restrain the opportunities of those that will invent our next shiny new objects, while trying to improve the opportunities and living conditions of those that aren't as capable, or blessed with the same opportunities. Granted there's always some that are taking advantage of the system, but to ignore those other tens of millions, or allow them to die on the street....so to speak...isn't going to fly.
I could be wrong. Haven't researched it. But tell me one time the downtrodden didn't get tired of being the downtrodden? The haves usually end up on short end, because there's always more of have-nots. Not saying they couldn't have made different choices in life, worked harder, been smarter, but that doesn't matter at that point. We're talking reality.
It's in everyone's best interest to help our fellow man. I think there's a book that talks about it....Jesus somebody.
I can agree with you on much of this...though I don't think I'll compromise on it being individual choice. The government has zero right to take from those that do, and give to those that don't lol...not sure I'll budge on that. Funny thing is that I help the less fortunate a good bit of the time on my own accord. I've taken in a friend trying to get his life together, with no car, and no job yet. What I see from him though, is that he's walking up and down 153 every day trying. I can work with that. If he did nothing but sit at home and complain, I'd put him out quick.
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Yeah you're right, I struggle with the forced altruism and my turn toward neo liberalism. But I don't see a path toward true classical liberalism that you want. Just can't get there from here. I can relate to your efforts to help others, and wish that were the answer alone.
The turn of the Republicans to the Christian nationalism, and just completely bonkers conspiracies and propaganda made me understand I fear them more than I fear progressive democrats. Economic policies can cause pain, but I view them like the laws of physics. They will fail if they're in error. No matter how you try, water won't run up hill. But what the Republicans are touting now is insidious and isn't bound by math.
The far right is just as nuts as the far left...to separate the two by policy is fine, but not by their actions...they are the same...eradicate and demonize the other...I'm fine with the few that are fairly centric. But I'm no liberal. Lol
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Feels like they have a really troubling communication problem within this admin.......seems like they don't speak to each other.
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About face: Biden resumes constructing border wall after pledging to not build 'another foot'
DHS says it plans to complete the Yuma Morelos Dam Project and close four wide gaps in the border.
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I tried Googling about this claim by people that Trump claimed he finished the Wall
See almost nothing about it
Based on the point of the spear hate mongering against Trump if he said something like that I have to believe heads would be exploding
Don’t see it so it must be some of the massive amount of lying by the left or reporting in a narrative form to create bias
He probably said some hyperbolic statement typical of politicians do I am going to pay this the attention it deserves
See almost nothing about it
Based on the point of the spear hate mongering against Trump if he said something like that I have to believe heads would be exploding
Don’t see it so it must be some of the massive amount of lying by the left or reporting in a narrative form to create bias
He probably said some hyperbolic statement typical of politicians do I am going to pay this the attention it deserves
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By all means, tell me more about your version of the latest mystical sky being to be invented
What I heard was a Trump saying we had finished the ORIGINAL planned wall
and then later in the speech where he refers back to finishing the Wall
If I were a reasonable open minded person who listens to what people say and in some cases understand things said can be misconstrued if the listener is of that mindset
say he was referring to the ORIGINAL plan of X number of wall feet which he exceeded
his speech reference is NOT in reference to the ENTIRE border distance
he truncated the English speech he was giving instead of delving deep into statistical or factual information such as miles projected versus miles completed or Miles new versus miles renovated
Earlier I also saw the jubilation of some at Mexico is doing border work at the border and paying for it
It was NOT work on the American side
Mexico is NOT PAYING ONE CENT for construction on American soil
It was construction in regards to the Mexican side
so I find myself asking myself are these people credible and trustworthy when clearly I can read and make calls to my reputable and reliable friend and acquaintances across the US who make an effort at being fair and open minded and accurate in what they say
if not for the $99 we pay Chris we would all be dumped by him
I do like to hear opinions other than mine as it helps me either form a better idea or opinion or change one
but the information must be solid and courtroom usable
That would be Jesus
Let me know a general area in which you live and I will recommend some good churches for you to attend and receive one on one counseling about Christianity and the one true God and Son
I don’t know it would but I can pray it will educate and enlighten you so can make better choices than think any mortal man is the Savior of Humanity
That spot is already taken
this portion was completed is what he was referring to
can’t think of the actual definition in speech this covers but the hate mob will grab any straw and run with it
even though I may disagree with Biden on subjects for example I am thinking someone is managing the military tools to Ukraine pretty good
Keep Russia bleeding out without them thinking about using Nukes
so one of the few areas I agree
I now think we need to get him a dozen A10’s
if you have ever seen the bullets and performance against armor you would be awed and amazed
anyone on the ground in combat pisses in their pants when the A10 shows up
Then some more HIMARs
but longer range on the rockets
That range will drive Russia back into their borders
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I’m sorry, but I’m absolutely convinced Donald J. Trump is the Savior of Humanity. He’s Jesus come again
This is rich.
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About face: Biden resumes constructing border wall after pledging to not build 'another foot'
DHS says it plans to complete the Yuma Morelos Dam Project and close four wide gaps in the border.
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