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Trump taking his smallness to new depths...

I can sense your distain for folks moving forward with supporting DeSantis.

We all know he will be very successful.

So we’re clear… my success will carry over to my children. They’re in the process of building their own successful lives as I type, in private school, with elite educations. Not only will they make it on their own, but will inherit a mint. While some will be fighting over pubs/Dems, my blood will be living incredible lives wherever they please.

Gen Zs can have at it… lol
I really don't care if you move on to DeSantis because I love watching Pub on Pub violence. It will be quite entertaining and I'm stocking up on popcorn. But it befuddles me that the Rs haven't learned their lesson and now want to shift their adulation to another authoritarian asshole(with brains). You folks love you some dictators but Gen Z will put the kabosh on that nonsense. Bring it on...
 
I really don't care if you move on to DeSantis because I love watching Pub on Pub violence. It will be quite entertaining and I'm stocking up on popcorn. But it befuddles me that the Rs haven't learned their lesson and now want to shift their adulation to another authoritarian asshole(with brains). You folks love you some dictators but Gen Z will put the kabosh on that nonsense. Bring it on...
If nothing else, I’m very entertained from your singular hope resting on kids.

Hahah
 
If nothing else, I’m very entertained from your singular hope resting on kids.

Hahah
They won't be the only ones but your only hope will rest with the 50+ crowd....and many of them are seeing the light as well. I just don't see much hope for your side unless they move away from the fake culture wars and start appealing to the reasonable middle and address isssues that actually matter to the majority.

All that time spent raging about CRT, drag queens and pronouns didn't move the needle a bit.
 
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They won't be the only ones but your only hope will rest with the 50+ crowd....and many of them are seeing the light as well. I just don't see much hope for your side unless they move away from the fake culture wars and start appealing to the reasonable middle and address isssues that actually matter to the majority.

All that time spent raging about CRT, drag queens and pronouns didn't move the needle a bit.
I moved my family’s needle myself. We live free & clear of those type distractions.

The point you’re not getting, is that I don’t really have a “side”. I vote a certain way, yes… but whomever wins an election, really doesn’t affect my life.

Yay for hard work! Thank God for the opportunities.
 
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I couldn’t care less how Trump acts going forward. He’s welcome to say or do whatever he likes. I’m grateful Trump awakened many to see the establishment for what it really is. I’m also not glued to the news daily like many of you are… I own 3 businesses and Coach football/basketball with my kids. Other than reading on here a bit to veg… I never hear or read about Trump.

Looking forward to DeSantis running in ‘24.

Good god man, where is your loyalty to trump? It's like you can't wait to get desantis' dick in your mouth.
 
Good god man, where is your loyalty to trump? It's like you can't wait to get desantis' dick in your mouth.
I’m sorry that upsets you.

“God”.. should be capitalized. Your grammar/punctuation is lacking these days.

Btw, I don’t roll like that, and my wife is certainly hotter than yours. Lucky me.
 

I don’t think this is “taking his smallness to new depths”. This is the same stuff he was saying in the 2015 primaries and everyday since. Trump is the same guy then as he is now.

I never voted for him because I cannot support someone like Trump. He's a trashy, immoral man with zero integrity and only cares about himself. And he’s never tried to hide it, which is why millions of Americans voted for Hillary, Biden or 3rd party that would typically vote Republican.

Remember, he lost to one of the most unpopular politicians to ever run for President by 3 million votes. Winning Wisconsin, Michigan & Pennsylvania by about 90,000 combined votes is why he won. He didn’t even get 50% in any of those states. Imagine losing a “popularity contest” to Hillary Clinton! Of course, he follows that up 4 years later and loses to another weak candidate by over 7 million and 74 electoral votes.

Back to my original point - Trump alienated millions of voters from the beginning, because we saw who he was back then. He’s only driven more away from the party over the past seven years. I’m glad so many more are coming around to realize that his brand of “politics” is incredibly destructive on society, regardless if he has some policies that might be successful. The ends just don’t justify the means with people like Trump.

If he decides to run, I hope he gets totally embarrassed in the primary to the point that his fall is compared to Joseph McCarthy in American annals. It would be a fitting end, and most importantly ensure his entire legacy will be tarnished and studied as a way not to lead. Maybe it will usher in a new wave of politicians that are more cerebral and less dogmatic.

BTW, I do agree with your “pathetic pos” line.
 
I moved my family’s needle myself. We live free & clear of those type distractions.

The point you’re not getting, is that I don’t really have a “side”. I vote a certain way, yes… but whomever wins an election, really doesn’t affect my life.

Yay for hard work! Thank God for the opportunities.
If you don't watch the news, it really makes little difference who's running the show!!
 
I’ve completely changed on Trump. Two months ago, I feared he would win the 2024 GOP nomination and be elected President.

Today, I WANT him to win the 2024 GOP nomination.

Because he will never be elected president.

How can I help make this happen?
 
Another fact based truth from the great one.

"Now that the Election in Florida is over, and everything went quite well, shouldn’t it be said that in 2020, I got 1.1 Million more votes in Florida than Ron D got this year, 5.7 Million to 4.6 Million? Just asking?"
Any idiot knows that the turnout for presidential elections is going to be significantly more than that in non potus election years. Trump got 52% of the Fla vote in 2020. Desantis got 59% of the vote this year.
If voting in fla for trump vs desantis id the deciding factor, then it decidedly says trump should bow out. If the same number of people had voted, Desantis would have received 6.4M votes based on the percentages.

I have defended Trump against the vast majority of the asinine claims by the left, and still do. However, attacking people on your side before the midterms are even over proves he doesn't give a crap about the country, only himself. It is NOT a good look for those in GA who will may be deciding who controls the senate to see pubs attacking each other before the midterms are settled.
 
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God should only be capitalized if it's your God because he/she is the only one that matters.
 
I agree with you. Not sure if you have seen some of my posts, but my biggest gripe with MAGA is the opportunity cost.

The demographics and culture are changing for the U.S. Whites are the only group that had a majority vote for Rs, all other groups voted for D (60% to 80%). People under 30 were +28 on the D side. Historically, people grow more conservative as they get older but this isn't proving true for this generation because all they have seen is trillions spent on useless wars, two recessions, a pandemic, student debt, and living in their parent's basements because they are underemployed and housing seems out of reach for them. So, it's likely they will be pushing for free money and socialism because to them, the game looks rigged. By 2028, I read that millennials and Gen z will make up a majority of the electorate. By 2045, whites will be a minority.

So, how do we avoid sharp turn to the left? By fixing the system and making it work for everyone. Instead, we have this MAGA group of uneducated white men pushing for riots, insurrections, gerrymandering, anti-democracy rhetoric ("stop the steal") to keep power and impose their will on the rest of the country. The winner takes all mentality is a losing strategy when you are not going to be the winner in the next decade. If nothing, else MAGA is energizing a whole bunch of Gen Z to accelerate to the left out of disgust for the values that Trump, Boebert, MTG, and Walker represent. With shit candidates and repulsive values and behavior, how do we get people to value personal responsibility, freedom, hard work, innovation, etc? The stupidity of the movement is alienating a ton of reasonable people and shifting the debate away from legitimate issues and pragmatic solutions. Saw a tweet from a Republican that summarized the midterms with "Fix policies later, fix crazy now". MAGA and Trump have become a huge distraction that is holding our country back. We need to move on and get back to actually fixing problems instead of trying to "own the libs".

Lot of truth here. The GOP needs an overhaul on policy and messaging.
 
Lot of truth here. The GOP needs an overhaul on policy and messaging.

trump calling for an election do over because of fraud right now on troth Sential.

the king of the pubs is not going gentle into that good night.
 
I’m a Republican, and I can honestly say that if he runs and wins the primary, I will be very excited to vote against him. It’s Desantis or bust for R’s.

It’d be a breath of fresh air to see two younger candidates face off for 2024.
 
Lot of truth here. The GOP needs an overhaul on policy and messaging.

You and @ctseb have been right about everything when it comes to the messaging and direction your party needs to take. The other Rs on this board need to listen and take notes.

 
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I moved my family’s needle myself. We live free & clear of those type distractions.

The point you’re not getting, is that I don’t really have a “side”. I vote a certain way, yes… but whomever wins an election, really doesn’t affect my life.

Yay for hard work! Thank God for the opportunities.
That's the key right there... Honestly, when Clinton beat Bush senior for the election... My life didn't change at all... ditto when Bush Jr and Obama won. My life didn't change a damn bit under Trump and I'm not seeing any change under Biden either. It's a damn shame we tear each other up over shit that doesn't really make any difference day to day.

To be fair... Obama winning had the most effect on me... It was GREAT!! Both my brothers and some friends were CONVINCED that Obama was coming for their guns and they bought a metric shit ton of ammo... we are talking 1000s of rounds. After a couple or three years it became pretty apparent that Obama WASN'T coming for their guns, they started taking a LOT of crap from their wives for spending all that money and cases of ammo hanging around the house/garage.

I ended up buying the booze, but we had a weekend where we shot up most of that ammo... I've never had more fun! I still tell them from time to time that the Dems are probably coming for their guns and they should really stock up on ammo while they can. No dice so far... but they probably would have fallen for it if Hillary has been elected.
 
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I never voted for him. I voted against the idiocy of the other side. And it's not my party. It's just the party I happen to vote for most of the time but believe her or not I have voted for Democrats. I even donated to and make calls on behalf of a Democrat last year. In fact the only campaign I gave money to was a campaign for a Democrat.
You voted trump. Be proud of your choice.
 
I’ve completely changed on Trump. Two months ago, I feared he would win the 2024 GOP nomination and be elected President.

Today, I WANT him to win the 2024 GOP nomination.

Because he will never be elected president.

How can I help make this happen?
Don't play with fire. This is the attitude we all had in 2016. Sea change can happen overnight in politics.
 
Another fact based truth from the great one.

"Now that the Election in Florida is over, and everything went quite well, shouldn’t it be said that in 2020, I got 1.1 Million more votes in Florida than Ron D got this year, 5.7 Million to 4.6 Million? Just asking?"
I love that you think there is anything other than a "fact based truth."
 
I never voted for him. I voted against the idiocy of the other side. And it's not my party. It's just the party I happen to vote for most of the time but believe her or not I have voted for Democrats. I even donated to and make calls on behalf of a Democrat last year. In fact the only campaign I gave money to was a campaign for a Democrat.
You are fantastically full of shit. Very knowledgeable and clearly intelligent, but just so full of shit you can't see straight.
 
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