We already had a solution with Roe but then the Right decided to create a problem and it's our fault? We have to fix again what was already solved or else we just want to make it a political football? Huh?
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It doesn't require an ounce of intelligence to understand MAGA - it only requires a dark soul. Like yours.
And you have shown many times over you lack said intelligence there my little pony...
Biden is 10x corrupt as Trump and a his corruption is a large part of why he feels the need to defend Ukraine. His corruption is pulling our country into a war!
But you guys got greedy. Went from safe, legal, rare to pushing late-term abortions to wanting taxpayers fund it and making religious institutions provide it. You guys took MS to court over late-term ban and opened it all up again...
SOP for the left. They always want to push further until they get everything they want, then cry when the right pushes back after they’ve gone extreme. It’s a tale as old as time. That’s why we can’t budge an inch on gender ideology. Let them cry and moan and throw their fits, idfc
You're so, so fvcking dishonest. If you really cared, you'd look into this a little deeper and you'd understand what a rare and heartbreaking decision it is to consider a late term abortion. There is NO politician that agrees with abortion at that point in a pregnancy unless the birth will create devastating consequences for the life of the mother or the viability of the fetus. This decision should be between the mother and her doctor - not a politician's.
We get it that it just sounds better to accuse Democrats of being pro-late term abortion but it's a nasty lie that lacks context. We know you don't give a sh*t though because you love to feed off the bottom.
That was the Supreme Court, and they struck down a deeply flawed ruling. The Supreme Court doesn’t create laws or policy from the bench (as they did in Roe).
It’s congress’ job to make a law. They never did. That’s the entire problem here.
And yet I posted them saying it. Your the most dishonest person on this board ever. Everything you said is either a deflection or a projection. If the man wont answer if he's against late-term abortions there is only one option left and he wont even say. If they cant answer the question directly then they know what they are for is not popular...
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Well, it’s already happened to the republicans, so it was bound to happen for democrats too. The nice part is no one section of either party appears to be strong, so maybe a third party can survive now.
Thanks, trump
would that be a bad thing? A third party thats between the the other two and takes the moderate vote from them both...
No, that’s what nice means. I’ve already been voting for that way for years. Come on over.
There is hope since we can agree on something other than our Tigers
I obviously understand what happened but Roe would have never been struck down without the Christian nationalist majority on the bench, doing the bidding of the minority on the Right. We'd love to codify Roe but they understood when they struck it down that we'd likely never have the numbers in Congress to make that a reality. Now that it's been struck down, red states have taken it further than anyone could have imagined. Democrats have every right to use that as a political cudgel now that we have a new problem, not of our making.
What corruption do you speak of?
aleepy joes corruption is dragging our country into a war, yet you support him.
once again your inability to understand nuance rears its ugly head. saying that late term abortion should be an option when the health of the mother is at risk, or the child may be born with a debilitating disease where it has a slim chance of living != saying all abortions should be allowed up until the fetus breaches the birthing canal.
And here I thought our mutual hatred of communism was the coalescing force, but it’s Biden’s corruption that’s helping us fight the ruskies? I guess, go Biden?
Thats not what they are saying. In the first video the former VA gov isnt talking about the woman's life. In fact its after the baby is born. Keep trying to play these word games and inserting "womans health at risk" doesnt change the fact thats not what they are saying. Maybe you wish they was saying that but they are not. I dont think even most on our side would be against what your saying. If only one could live then the mother must choose.
Roe would have never happen if a rogue activist leftist court hadnt exceeded its authority by creating law from the bench. It also wouldnt have changed if leftist hadnt took the MS late-term law to court forcing the SC to rule...
Oh I read maybe you should learn to listen. Im not even trying to argue what your pointing out. Im talking about what they are saying that has nothing to do with what you would like everybody to focus on. In case you havent noticed most are against abortion on demand after 12-15 weeks but are ok with some exceptions like what your talking about...
Biden is a fvcking mega-corrupt criminal and pedohitler. Remember when things like that mattered?
Radical John Fetterman Supports Abortion Up Until the Moment of Birth - NRSC
We all know that John Fetterman is a radical, but don’t take it from us. A Democrat Super PAC has been running ads rightly claiming that Fetterman is a Socialist. But it’s not just Fetterman’s Bernie Sanders’ style economic socialism that’s raising eyebrows in Pennsylvania. He’s also way outside...
www.nrsc.org
Granted this dude is literally mentally unfit to serve in any office due to a stroke, but he has literally stated on the record he believes there should be zero restrictions whatsoever
How many grand jury probes do the have on him compared to whomever???
Got any proof for your imaginary hallucinations??? You guys have all the power for the moment. Come jan there will be real investigations and an impeachment to follow.
you're not arguing what i'm pointing out, but you literally posted 3 videos trying to say that democrats want abortion up until the fetus is born. that is literally not a democrat platform unless the safety of the mother or child is at risk.
the video in that link doesn't work so i can't see his exact words, but my guess is it lines up with every other remark of his about abortion. his website doesn't mention anything about unlimited access to abortions, so i'm gonna need a little more evidence than a claim from NSRC and a video link that doesn't workRadical John Fetterman Supports Abortion Up Until the Moment of Birth - NRSC
We all know that John Fetterman is a radical, but don’t take it from us. A Democrat Super PAC has been running ads rightly claiming that Fetterman is a Socialist. But it’s not just Fetterman’s Bernie Sanders’ style economic socialism that’s raising eyebrows in Pennsylvania. He’s also way outside...
Granted this dude is literally mentally unfit to serve in any office due to a stroke, but he has literally stated on the record he believes there should be zero restrictions whatsoever
Yes there is proof. It’s called Hunters laptop and he calls his dad “Pedo Pete”.
his corruption is also well documented, 10% for the big guy.
That's definitely how it started. A large chunk of the population was left behind. As an example, globalization gave us cheaper prices at Wal-mart but decimated entire industries. You
You get my vote. Sensible solution. 60% of all Americans are okay with first trimester abortions. If we just focused on reasonable solutions like that we would make a dent in that gridlock situation we are in right now.
Wait, wait, wait. I thought it was always a problem of states rights? How quickly and smoothly you have abandoned that argument of the last 40 years.
And now state legislatures in red states are making draconian laws that start at conception and have no exceptions for rape, incest or the health of the mother. If you really have a problem with dems pointing that out to the electorate, I don't know what to tell you.
The entire conservative movement has become one of victimhood.
OMG, LOCK HIM UP with that amazing evidence. That's worse than both impeachments, the insurrection, pathological lying, Trump University and Stormy's payoff combined!!!
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Unfortunately I'm not running! 😂 No but you think exactly the same as I do, I think something along those lines would bring the greatest amount of good/happiness to the greatest amount of people, IMO
So, in your world....
The contents of a laptop - the actual contents of which have not been made public - that was passed around to Guilani and Bannon and other conservatives prior to making its way to the FBI, is infallible evidence of Joe Biden's criminality.
But the 40+ books written by Trump's own direct reports or based on taped interviews with him that show his criminality, bumbling stupidity, and authoritarian dictatorship of his administration are all deep state bullshit.
Man, what a time to be alive.
Got it! You still get to make the claim that Biden is more corrupt, even though you have no evidence because you'll blow the top off when you win the House! Do I have that right?
Is this going to be like when trump promised all of those investigations to lock up "Crooked Hillary" and then proceeded to do jack shit?
You keep lumping me in with broad arguments. Focus on what you can control, not "but 40 years ago!!!" gotcha arguments.
Ds control the presidency, the senate and the HOR. If you are upset that Roe was overturned, don't like the decisions being made at the state level and want to protect a woman's right to abortion, then propose legislation. That's how it works. If you do not, you are failing your constituency. You are complaining about a problem and doing nothing to solve it (one of my biggest personal pet peeves).
If the dems were to bring forth compromise legislation in line with what exists in Europe, I bet you could get some conservative support - just as was done on infrastructure. It's where the majority of Americans are.
Roe was far left of European positions, so it would require give from the lefties.
But no. Your party, you, @dpic73 and others just want to continue the gotcha team sport approach that is failing us all.
BTW, republicans would have been smart to get ahead of this and do the same thing. Make the Ds go on record voting against a European-like abortion law that the majority of Americans agree with. The GOP is just as guilty of failing their constituents and not proving meaningful solutions to our problems.
It is a states rights issue because there is no federal law about abortions. Until congress passes a federal law the SC really cant rule on it. Thus why they sent it back down to the states.
