Ukraine and the point of view that Russia aggression is ito protect against nato eastern expansion

[Dadar]

Do you really believe nato is looking to invade Russia. If your next door neighbor is Russia with the actions it has taken would you not be concerned about sovereign border territories being seized with no restraint in bombing civilians in all locations with thermal weapons that emit an initial burst of material that then ignites a 2nd explosion creating a vacuum that sucks the guts out of everyone within a large range or the confines of a building? How can any pro life advocate not care about the atrocities by Russia with no concern for any civilian life?

In WW II Europe stayed in denial until Germany pushed things to the tipping point of no return. Why would Nato go down that road again?

Just curious to hear why anyone believes otherwise

Hard also to understand restricting use of US weapons across Russia border other than fear of opening door to Russia taking actions to further arm Cuba and any foothold in South America and other BRIC allies? Some reports that Russia is increasing nuclear delivery capability for N Korea in return for the troops and weapon supplies N Korea is providing Russia invading a sovereign European country?

Glad there are indications restrictions are finally being lifted. Seems like a window is open until Trump is sworn in just like Russian expanding push at high cost to establish favorable conditions for negotiations giving it all seized territory and have the Kurst region in Russia handed back

These are questions I keep pondering. Maybe many just don't care.

The US responsibility was largely set by Bretton Woods that established the US dollar as the reserve currency for global trade. This gave the US a huge economic advantage. Not sure whether in writing, but this also put an increased responsibility that is also in the the best interest of US which dwarfs other nations in Naval capability to protect the shipping lanes of earth which is predominantly covered by water.

After Nixon (was elected by the largest margin in history I believe) took away the last ties to gold and threw all doors open for money mischief by all foxes in the hen house. Add to that weaponizing the USD as leverage against any enemies or perceived foreign threat. Not criticizing the action, just how we got there.

Granted, many allies grew overly dependent on the US and let their defense contributions diminish and are now acting to correct this with the threats posed.

There are 2 sides to this coin and one seems to be overlooked or just taken as something we feel to simply be entitled to.

 

[Dadar]

This is an amazing story of a Clemson graduate and his experience as a 2nd Lt just out of college who was stationed in Japan and was with the initial forces to Korea in the early action being pushed to the Pusan Peninsula limit and counter atack at the front where he was shot in the foot. He was given orders to hold his position and not fire on the Chinese crossing the river border who were thought to be only securing hydroelectric facilities

Was just putting this into perspective with Ukraine war 1,000 days old now. He was also the last prisoner released I believe.

William was a career Clemson employee in the extension service and passed away several years ago. William was a good friend that I regret not spending more time with. He rarely talked about his experience unless asked about it and put into words his experience as a way to relieve continuous night mares recounting the experience. Documenting his experience alleviated the night mares. His book is available at the military museum near Willy Brice and is highly recommended for anyone interested in stories of true heroes who endured extreme obstacles for survival.

Bill Fuchness, Korea POW, A thousand days of torment, by William H. Funchess, Life # 1725, Companys B & C, 19th Infantry Regiment

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[DW4_2016]

Wrong board man. Most of this board is pro Putin and pro Russia. They’re likely to deny it now, but when it popped off with russia to begin this round of fighting they were all showing how much they loved communism and putin. Real weird, but they’ve made their choice.

 

[Dadar]

Wrong board man. Most of this board is pro Putin and pro Russia. They’re likely to deny it now, but when it popped off with russia to begin this round of fighting they were all showing how much they loved communism and putin. Real weird, but they’ve made their choice.

Maybe not pro putin but either unaware of the depth of how evil Putin is, the global threat posed or they just don't care.

 

[firegiver]

I've heard it argued pretty convincingly that Russia population is in decline, that the only way they can revitalize and secure their nation is to expand its boarders. That the big plan, is to keep going till they hit Portugal.
They truly thought they would be through Poland by now. They started this because the timeline for their military aged combatants is expiring, it was now or never.

The fools who wish to help sanction 'peace' do not understand that Putin is fully devoted to his plan to reestablish the Russian empire.

 

[Dadar]

I've heard it argued pretty convincingly that Russia population is in decline, that the only way they can revitalize and secure their nation is to expand its boarders. That the big plan, is to keep going till they hit Portugal.
They truly thought they would be through Poland by now. They started this because the timeline for their military aged combatants is expiring, it was now or never.

The fools who wish to help sanction 'peace' do not understand that Putin is fully devoted to his plan to reestablish the Russian empire.

Yep, they have destroyed their population demographics. Lost significant physical and intellectual resources in lower age density

 

[Dadar]

Do you ever watch any of the video snippets from Russia TV? All of the comentators are jacked up to nuke the world and feeding Putin's narrative to the population.

 

[Dadar]

Do you ever watch any of the video snippets from Russia TV? All of the comentators are jacked up to nuke the world and feeding Putin's narrative to the population.

 

[Dadar]

Do you ever watch any of the video snippets from Russia TV? All of the comentators are jacked up to nuke the world and feeding Putin's narrative to the population.

Propaganda machine in an isolated society

 

[uuuuuuuuuuuuuuu]

Do you really believe nato is looking to invade Russia. If your next door neighbor is Russia with the actions it has taken would you not be concerned about sovereign border territories being seized with no restraint in bombing civilians in all locations with thermal weapons that emit an initial burst of material that then ignites a 2nd explosion creating a vacuum that sucks the guts out of everyone within a large range or the confines of a building? How can any pro life advocate not care about the atrocities by Russia with no concern for any civilian life?

In WW II Europe stayed in denial until Germany pushed things to the tipping point of no return. Why would Nato go down that road again?

Just curious to hear why anyone believes otherwise

Hard also to understand restricting use of US weapons across Russia border other than fear of opening door to Russia taking actions to further arm Cuba and any foothold in South America and other BRIC allies? Some reports that Russia is increasing nuclear delivery capability for N Korea in return for the troops and weapon supplies N Korea is providing Russia invading a sovereign European country?

Glad there are indications restrictions are finally being lifted. Seems like a window is open until Trump is sworn in just like Russian expanding push at high cost to establish favorable conditions for negotiations giving it all seized territory and have the Kurst region in Russia handed back

These are questions I keep pondering. Maybe many just don't care.

The US responsibility was largely set by Bretton Woods that established the US dollar as the reserve currency for global trade. This gave the US a huge economic advantage. Not sure whether in writing, but this also put an increased responsibility that is also in the the best interest of US which dwarfs other nations in Naval capability to protect the shipping lanes of earth which is predominantly covered by water.

After Nixon (was elected by the largest margin in history I believe) took away the last ties to gold and threw all doors open for money mischief by all foxes in the hen house. Add to that weaponizing the USD as leverage against any enemies or perceived foreign threat. Not criticizing the action, just how we got there.

Granted, many allies grew overly dependent on the US and let their defense contributions diminish and are now acting to correct this with the threats posed.

There are 2 sides to this coin and one seems to be overlooked or just taken as something we feel to simply be entitled to.

Russia's perception is that a hostile military alliance has continually expanded and squeezed them, and they weren't going to let it happen again in Ukraine. Is NATO a serious threat to invade Russia? No, but that sort of logic sure as hell hasn't stopped us in the past. Ask the Vietnamese or Saddam. What were our justifications there? Stopping the spread of communism on the other side of the globe and outright lies about WMDs and connections to al-Qaeda. We should frankly be ashamed of the Iraq War, and the cowards responsible haven't faced the smallest consequence for their lies to the American people and their brutality towards Iraqi civilians whose lives we destroyed.

The Hitler appeasement thing is unfairly criticized. What was the alternative? Going to war with Germany when Britain and France were in no shape to fight at all? You also have to consider that the British felt, with legitimate reason, that Germany did get screwed over by Versailles, and moreover, it wasn't entirely clear that Nazi Germany was more of a threat than the USSR, who Germany balanced. People jump to the conclusion that it was some obvious, idiotic mistake without looking into it. Nobody seems to think that reaching an armistice in Korea was appeasement.

You are right about Bretton Woods. It weaponized the dollar and meant aggresively using the military to protect an economy built on deficit spending.

 

[Dadar]

Russia's perception is that a hostile military alliance has continually expanded and squeezed them, and they weren't going to let it happen again in Ukraine. Is NATO a serious threat to invade Russia? No, but that sort of logic sure as hell hasn't stopped us in the past. Ask the Vietnamese or Saddam. What were our justifications there? Stopping the spread of communism on the other side of the globe and outright lies about WMDs and connections to al-Qaeda. We should frankly be ashamed of the Iraq War, and the cowards responsible haven't faced the smallest consequence for their lies to the American people and their brutality towards Iraqi civilians whose lives we destroyed.

The Hitler appeasement thing is unfairly criticized. What was the alternative? Going to war with Germany when Britain and France were in no shape to fight at all? You also have to consider that the British felt, with legitimate reason, that Germany did get screwed over by Versailles, and moreover, it wasn't entirely clear that Nazi Germany was more of a threat than the USSR, who Germany balanced. People jump to the conclusion that it was some obvious, idiotic mistake without looking into it. Nobody seems to think that reaching an armistice in Korea was appeasement.

You are right about Bretton Woods. It weaponized the dollar and meant aggresively using the military to protect an economy built on deficit spending.

Vietnam was when the cold war was running in a very different global perspective. The weapons of mass destruction talking point for Iraq was complete BS.

Most of the NATO expansion bringing in Baltic countries and Sweden has been in reaction to Russia aggression. Russian leadership made to move to break up the USSR. So now they have changed their mind and want everything back?

By this rational the US would return our lands to England, Mexico and France, not to mention the Indian Nations who should have 1st claim