Promises made promises kept.
Democrats “but he said he one day and it took 100, he is a liar!”
Democrats “but he said he one day and it took 100, he is a liar!”
Ukraine Future Secured - Thank You Trump
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He promised to rape the wealth from an already devastated country? What a great man!
You and your multiple handles are so funny.
So the war is over? Russia and Ukraine have a peace agreement in place? Because that’s what he said he’d do on day 1, he’d end the war, not that he’d sign a minerals agreement with Ukraine.
Trump is gonna screw even this up. He can't get Putin to stop bombing. He's been crying about it on social media. Begging putin to stop. Russia is laughing at us.
I had to look this up and it appears true. Zelenski received applause at his entrance at the pope's wake. Trump... nope
Please explain to me how the future of Ukraine is secured when they’re still a war going on and Putin won’t stop until all of his demands are met?
You aren't part of a cult that believes everything they are told.
They won't even admit that he promised to end the war before he was inaugurated.
The minerals deal isn't a magic bullet to end the war.. It does benefit he US as it theoretically secures a future source of vital minerals for the US. In the near term it proivides real, concrete signal that the US has an honest to goodness interest in Russia NOT gaining control of all of Ukraine.
I’m sorry for your loss, and this success further upsetting you.
GREAT JOB AMERICA MAGA AND TRUMP
TO THE LOSERS KEEP WHINING AND KEEP LOSING
The dude has to be taking Adderall by the doughnut sized pills to keep the 24/7 posting up
No he's making an agreement that ensures they payback some of what they owe to us for our help...
Dude, I promise you I understand the transactional way Trump does diplomacy but it's not normal for the US to demand restitution for war aid that, let's be honest, was good for us too. It's especially nauseating when they've lost hundreds of thousands of lives and hundreds of billions of infrastructure too, which means they'll need that wealth that we're taking.
Having said that, it will be great to have access to those rare earth minerals and I will consider it a master stroke if it means we push Russia out of Donbas, where the majority of those minerals are found. That would mean Trump puts the squeeze on Putin, which would be a very welcome change.
It kinda IS normal for strings to be attached and US to have the expectation of at least partial repayment for war aid given to a foreign government.
When the US helped out during WWI we didn't do it for free. We fully intended that we would get paid back. The great depression led to most all debts being written off but a small few fully repaid their debt.
And then, we didn't intend the lend-lease program or our help duing WWII to be a complete gift either. We ended up getting drug way deep into the war but when we started providing lethal/non-lethal aid to the UK and USSR there were strings attached. Post-war a lot of the debt was written off but we still received monetary payment as well payment in other ways , military bases and acces etc. We finalized an agreement with the USSR in 1972 that had debt continuing for a number of years. The UK paid off the last post-war loan in the early 2000's.
Korean war aid (during and post war) Mixture of grants and loans. Not a 100% freebie.
Same same with aid to the South Vietnamese government. No intent for it to be a 100% gift.
Heping Kuwait was a little different ... no "loans" or grants per se, but per AI, Kuwait funded a significant portion of US war costs. So not a freebie.
Iraq 2 really didn't start off a aid to a foreign goverment. So i probably shouldn't mention it. We kinda did that on our own. But still we should have paid ourselves back for it. Fvcking moronic that we didn't keep an oil field or two for ourselves for some numnber of decades to fill up our strat petroleum reserve, find room for more, to sell to others to pay back the US taxpayers.
Well also off topic but since we taking about moronic stuff... giving the panama canal back to panama without any economic concessions was off the charts stupid .
I stand corrected. Just looked it up myself.
No, the US has not always demanded restitution for war aid. Historically, US war aid has varied in form and expectation:
- World War I: The US provided loans to Allies, expecting repayment with interest. By 1934, most debtor nations defaulted, except Finland, which paid in full.
- World War II: The Lend-Lease program supplied $50.1 billion in aid (about $690 billion today) to Allies, primarily Britain and the USSR. Repayment was not strictly demanded in cash; instead, the US sought postwar concessions like trade agreements and military bases. Britain paid off its Lend-Lease debt in 2006, Canada in 2002.
- Cold War and Beyond: Aid like the Marshall Plan ($13 billion, or $135 billion today) rebuilt Western Europe with no direct repayment but aimed to counter Soviet influence and secure economic ties. Military aid to allies (e.g., Israel, South Vietnam) often came as grants or with strategic expectations, not financial restitution.
- Recent Examples: Aid to Ukraine since 2022 (over $75 billion) has included loans with potential forgiveness clauses, though debates persist about repayment. This reflects a mix of strategic goals and domestic political pressures, not a consistent restitution demand.
Yep, the cult that only gets their news from Fox, Twitter, and Facebook. 😂
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