I’ve never done that. Id appreciate not being lumped into a group also, there’s a lot of dumbass liberals on here too but I don’t include you in their generalizations. And in all honesty, SOME are just trying to live their lives but simultaneously OTHERS are demanding special treatment. I have zero tolerance for people demanding special treatment period. Demanding inclusion into women’s sports, demanding people to use pronoun’s, demanding to be allowed to read sex books in school, etc or they’re homophobic is crazy. I have no issue with anyone and as I’ve stated before, I prefer to be left alone in matters like these, they are private, personal matters. I respect their rights to happiness and life but that doesn’t mean they get to impose their lifestyle on me and my family - that goes for any group of people. This issue should fall under the live and let live mantra but it’s wildly political now.Also, the demonizing comments were about discussions around LGBTQ rights. There are some posters here, not including you in that, who are brutal with how they portray that community and I absolutely push back against that.
We have posters who constantly post "articles" that are only about Gay or Trans people who were pedofiles. He never posts about other pedophiles, only gay or trans, which are not even close to the worst offenders.
I push back against the characterization of an entire community of people who are just trying to live their lives.
I’ve never done that. Id appreciate not being lumped into a group also, there’s a lot of dumbass liberals on here too but I don’t include you in their generalizations. And in all honesty, SOME are just trying to live their lives but simultaneously OTHERS are demanding special treatment. I have zero tolerance for people demanding special treatment period. Demanding inclusion into women’s sports, demanding people to use pronoun’s, demanding to be allowed to read sex books in school, etc or they’re homophobic is crazy. I have no issue with anyone and as I’ve stated before, I prefer to be left alone in matters like these, they are private, personal matters. I respect their rights to happiness and life but that doesn’t mean they get to impose their lifestyle on me and my family - that goes for any group of people. This issue should fall under the live and let live mantra but it’s wildly political now.
Just curious how many times someone has "demanded" that you use a certain pronoun. Has that ever happened to you?I’ve never done that. Id appreciate not being lumped into a group also, there’s a lot of dumbass liberals on here too but I don’t include you in their generalizations. And in all honesty, SOME are just trying to live their lives but simultaneously OTHERS are demanding special treatment. I have zero tolerance for people demanding special treatment period. Demanding inclusion into women’s sports, demanding people to use pronoun’s, demanding to be allowed to read sex books in school, etc or they’re homophobic is crazy. I have no issue with anyone and as I’ve stated before, I prefer to be left alone in matters like these, they are private, personal matters. I respect their rights to happiness and life but that doesn’t mean they get to impose their lifestyle on me and my family - that goes for any group of people. This issue should fall under the live and let live mantra but it’s wildly political now.
Calling you by your middle name is not the same as calling a man with a beard a she/her. Like I said, most are good folks. But to just completely ignore the part of that movement that is militant isn’t wise either. I’m sure there were tons of good Germans that got lumped into being a Nazi because they wouldn’t hold the wild rhetoric and activists accountable. See the guy in MN that was trans, destroyed 20k in teslas and got off. Why’d that happen? That’s a problem. You should be able to call out bullshit while supporting a cause. I’d argue that makes the argument stronger.I agree with some, and can understand all of your positions.
Where we probably differ is that I don't ming calling someone a different pronoun or name if asked. I like it to myself, I go by my middle name, and have never had anyone have an issue with that. I would be bothered if someone got upset if I didn't know the correct pronouns or name initially. Give me a chance and tell me first.
I have a history in the arts and many,many friends who are in the LGBTQ community. While a few are a bit annoying with the constant need to defend and push, I do get the desire when they have been so badly treated historically. Most are just like us and it never comes up.
People are people, they can be great or assholes and all spectrums in between. I try hard and ask that others don't lump a whole group of people in with the idiots.
Calling you by your middle name is not the same as calling a man with a beard a she/her. Like I said, most are good folks. But to just completely ignore the part of that movement that is militant isn’t wise either. I’m sure there were tons of good Germans that got lumped into being a Nazi because they wouldn’t hold the wild rhetoric and activists accountable. See the guy in MN that was trans, destroyed 20k in teslas and got off. Why’d that happen? That’s a problem. You should be able to call out bullshit while supporting a cause. I’d argue that makes the argument stronger.
It’s not hard. I have no personal issue. But it’s not fair to demand others do that. They are entitled to their beliefs just like the guy with makeup on right? We aren’t talking about physical violence. That’s not an American ideal. Forcing people to be “nice” isn’t what we are about. It’s not democrats or your job to make sure people are nice. I could what about this 100 ways. If everyone deserves due process they certainly deserve free speech.And there is the issue. You are comparing someone wanting to be called "they" with a Nazi.
Why is it hard to call a man "she" itlf they ask? Why is that so hard? What does it take away from you to just be nice?
It’s not hard. I have no personal issue. But it’s not fair to demand others do that. They are entitled to their beliefs just like the guy with makeup on right? We aren’t talking about physical violence. That’s not an American ideal. Forcing people to be “nice” isn’t what we are about. It’s not democrats or your job to make sure people are nice. I could what about this 100 ways. If everyone deserves due process they certainly deserve free speech.
This is what I don't understand, I don't know many trans folks but the ones I've met have never demanded anything. I've told this story before but there was a guy in our Portland office that I had communicated with many times and later met him in person at a company meeting the next year. Guy had a full beard and nothing about him screamed that he was born female and he was one of the nicest, funniest people I've ever met. I later learned that he was trans and he never demanded we call him anything, but it was obvious that he saw himself as a male. Just curious if you met someone like this who was outwardly fully male, would you insist on referring to him as she/her?It’s not hard. I have no personal issue. But it’s not fair to demand others do that. They are entitled to their beliefs just like the guy with makeup on right? We aren’t talking about physical violence. That’s not an American ideal. Forcing people to be “nice” isn’t what we are about. It’s not democrats or your job to make sure people are nice. I could what about this 100 ways. If everyone deserves due process they certainly deserve free speech.
Like I said. I don’t do that. But I’m not gonna bash people that do. Do you think it’s nice to wish people’s families die in fires? How about calling people retarded or racist? That’s happened to me on this very board. Are you standing up for me or just the group that your leaders tell you to? Is it nice to murder a young white man then use that to raise 100’s of thousands of dollars and patronize the victims dad? Is it nice to ignore people like Laken Riley and her family and dismiss their tragedy? This is what I mean, there’s no consistency to yalls message.It's not required, but it's kinda being an asshole not to.
I just don't get it, why is that so hard to just call someone what they ask you to? It's not hard, it doesn't cost anything to be nice to people.
Like I said. I don’t do that. But I’m not gonna bash people that do. Do you think it’s nice to wish people’s families die in fires? How about calling people retarded or racist? That’s happened to me on this very board. Are you standing up for me or just the group that your leaders tell you to? Is it nice to murder a young white man then use that to raise 100’s of thousands of dollars and patronize the victims dad? Is it nice to ignore people like Laken Riley and her family and dismiss their tragedy? This is what I mean, there’s no consistency to yalls message.
I agree with your message, but damn. No one has the right to not be offended. I could argue every instance in my post is much more damaging and hurtful than calling a man by the wrong pronouns. It’s this white knighting of certain groups that’s so annoying to me. If it’s so important to you to make sure people are nice then be consistent.None of that is nice, and I would call someone out who crosses that line. If I missed something like that, I apologize
Both parties do reprehensible stuff for political points. I think using Laken Riley as an example at all is demeaning and a little cringe. I feel the same with similar things done by Dems.
My message is pretty consistent. "Don't be an asshole."
It seems as if the MAGA message is, "Be an asshole" that's certainly how Trump acts and he is applauded.
I agree with your message, but damn. No one has the right to not be offended. I could argue every instance in my post is much more damaging and hurtful than calling a man by the wrong pronouns. It’s this white knighting of certain groups that’s so annoying to me. If it’s so important to you to make sure people are nice then be consistent.
Yoshi. Please call me King Fat Piggy.It's not required, but it's kinda being an asshole not to.
I just don't get it, why is that so hard to just call someone what they ask you to? It's not hard, it doesn't cost anything to be nice to people.
Don't be a hypocrite.Sure they are. What does that have to do with calling someone by the name they would like to be called by?
If that's what you prefer to be called, update your handle and I'll be happy to call you that. It's certainly no dumber than calling you fatpiggy and we do that all the time.Don't be a hypocrite.
Please call me King Fat Piggy.
@MTTiger19 what do you prefer to go by? I don't want to be an asshole and call you by the wrong thing.
The whole thing is absurd.
You have to be a real asshole to demand to be called something you are not.
If that's what you prefer to be called, update your handle and I'll be happy to call you that. It's certainly no dumber than calling you fatpiggy and we do that all the time.
It's just like everything else democrat. Rules for thee but not for me.
Please respect my wished and address me as King Fat Piggy or else you are an asshole.
I don't make the rules.
The whole thing is absurd and should be ridiculed.
King Fat Piggy.Oh you are absurd and being ridiculed. Have no fear.
Hello King Fat PiggyKing Fat Piggy.
Say my name
I couldn’t have imagined people would be so gullible and just willfully ignorant, but here we are.
Yoshi....you have repeatedly over a long period of time said there is zero chance that vaccines cause autism. Thats a fact and I am this board a lot.Find a time when I ever stated that it was zero percent. Find one comment.
And we all called you Ole Fastball for years. Again, you have demonstrated many times you aren't a serious person. How about you just lay your debts?
Yoshi....you have repeatedly over a long period of time said there is zero chance that vaccines cause autism. Thats a fact and I am this board a lot.
We had a whole conversation and at the end I said “ok, you will be known as Mr 0%” for your ridiculous stance.So it should be easy to find a post then.
Show me a post where I said zero chance.
OK - we will refer to you as Mr 0% on this topic. I hope you are correct.
Not at all. This has been thoroughly discussed and this study doesn't change anything.
Vaccines aren't the cause of autism, no matter how badly you want to hate vaccines they have saved Millions of lives.
Many vaccines, just like every single medication on the market have potential side effects for some patients.
Nah I’m good. But count me in for 0% chance of vaccines causing autism, like how could you measles licking dipshits be any stupiderTroll. Just ignore him. His argument changes with the wind and his only point is that there is 0% chance of any link and he is so smart because his wife treats autism so he has to be right and everyone else is stupid for caring. What a self important asshole. He is the embodiment of know it all “elite” democrats that think they are smart and should be able to tell everyone else what to do. They aren’t smart at all.
Everyone watch the clip above from Joe Rogan. He just sent it out to his 50 million followers
Nah I’m good. But count me in for 0% chance of vaccines causing autism, like how could you measles licking dipshits be any stupider
The great back track begins. And you called me an asshole over my stance. What a bozo. This guy doesn't know what he believes.And I'm right there with you in reality, but I will and have acknowledged that I can't say certainly that there is zero connection with vaccines.
Just like I can't say definitely that Donald Trump being president didn't cause Covid 19 since it didn't exist until Donald Trump was president. That is the exact same logic they use to try and connect vaccines and autism
Correlation doesn't equal causation.
Dipshits like Ole Fastball don't like when someone does know more than them, and someone doesn't back down to ignorance and insults.
This is just a bad faith argument- RFKj is on record that vaccines are THE cause of autism. The amount of confirmation bias that's going into his "research" is stupid af. And you know you already agree with him.My whole position this whole time is that it should not be 0% and now all the sudden Yoshi is saying well its not 0%.
What a waste of time arguing with this guy.