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Walker - Republicans, defend your boy

Doesn’t bother me. Not all republicans are against early term abortion, mostly just the whacko religious right.
Not sure why anyone would change their vote over abortion. It’s a no win situation in the end. A states issue is the proper solution. You should have the right to live around like minded people if you so choose.
 
Doesn’t bother me. Not all republicans are against early term abortion, mostly just the whacko religious right.
Not sure why anyone would change their vote over abortion. It’s a no win situation in the end. A states issue is the proper solution. You should have the right to live around like minded people if you so choose.
Herschel Walker is against early term abortion, unless of course the baby is his. Most red southern states are against early term abortion, judging by the laws they passed outlawing it.
 
Even if everything about walker is true that you think MIGHT be true, you should still vote for him if you are a republican or somewhat conservative independent. On the whole, he would still be to the right of the other option. This is what people don(primarily republicans) don't get. I think he is a terrible candidate, but I would still vote for him if I lived in ga because he is the best option available and would vote with the side I wanted him to vote with the vast majority of the time.
 
I voted for Bill Clinton in 1992. I was pro-choice up until about 2002. Then I started to understand the impact of abortion and the fact that it was a human life from conception. So I changed my mind.

Whether Herschel Walker paid for abortions or not is irrelevant to me at this point. He is clearly pro-life now and understands the devastating nature of abortion.

Warnock on the other hand does not. He is the self-proclaimed pro-abortion pastor. That makes it an easy choice on this issue.

However I will say that all this illustrates what a rotten candidate Herschel Walker is for the Senate. Having to vote for him is something that really sucks.
 
Herschel Walker is against early term abortion, unless of course the baby is his. Most red southern states are against early term abortion, judging by the laws they passed outlawing it.
I dont think most red southern states are against early term abortion. I think most of the country as a whole, is probably down the middle. Where abortion is probably legal until the fetus is viable on its own outside the womb, give or take a few weeks. This goes for red states and blue states.

I think the majority would be against late term abortion and the majority would also be for early term abortion.

Again, there is no winner on the subject of abortion. There is always a loser no matter what your choice is.

There is no "right" answer and therefore should be left to the states and give the ability of citizens to reside where their beliefs match the laws.
 
Wasn’t it Clinton with the quote “safe, legal, but rare” or something along those lines? That I agree with

That was also the Romney/Ryan position. It's also where most Republicans I know are.

That said, there is so much focus on abortion. I can honestly say it has never even played a 0.000001% factor in a voting decision of mine.
 

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I wasn't always against abortion either. I used to rationalize it as more humane than bringing an unwanted child into the world. What solidified it for me was when my wife was pregnant with our first child. We were gifted a book that outlines the life of the child growing in the mother's womb. It's meant to be read daily, with each day detailing new progress of the child's life. Tragically, this particular book ended at 19 weeks. My wife went into premature labor and we lost my first and only son. I held him I'm my hands. He was a perfectly shaped baby boy, just very small. Too small to survive.

Do you know how babies are aborted at around this gestational age? They inject them with a chemical and then pull them out in pieces....reassembling them later as sort of a macabre inventory to make sure they retrieved all the body parts. I can't, for the life of me, understand why any civilized society would call this a 'right'.

Ultimately, there are no unwanted children.
 
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Even if everything about walker is true that you think MIGHT be true, you should still vote for him if you are a republican or somewhat conservative independent. On the whole, he would still be to the right of the other option. This is what people don(primarily republicans) don't get. I think he is a terrible candidate, but I would still vote for him if I lived in ga because he is the best option available and would vote with the side I wanted him to vote with the vast majority of the time.
You are the problem
 
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You are the problem
the irony of all of this is all the threads started on here over the months about how democrats are pro baby murder, etc etc. now that there's proof one of their own is a hypocrite and gets abortions as frequently as i order takeout it's no longer an issue. it just makes the whole faux-moral highroad they flaunt that much more hilarious
 
So you are telling me that if a terrible dem candidate runs for potus against trump, you will not vote for the terrible dem candidate?
NO, that is not what they're telling you.

What they're telling you is they don't believe in GOD, they believe that gov't is the solution to every problem. They will do whatever is required to hold power.

Never any thought crosses their mind about what is good for the people of this country-they're just looking out for their voting base.
 
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i didn't vote for clinton in 2016, so uh yeah i wouldn't

if Biden runs in 2024 then i will vote for him if the other option is trump or desantis
So you are saying if Clinton ran again in 2024 you would not vote for her over trump? If so, I don't understand. If you have two candidates, you vote the best one even if neither are good candidates.
I appreciate your response, though. Will wait for @DW4_2016 to respond.
 
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the irony of all of this is all the threads started on here over the months about how democrats are pro baby murder, etc etc. now that there's proof one of their own is a hypocrite and gets abortions as frequently as i order takeout it's no longer an issue. it just makes the whole faux-moral highroad they flaunt that much more hilarious
That is an asinine statement for two reasons. The first and most important is that no matter what he has done in his life, or likely even what his personal view on the matter is, he will vote with republicans on any abortion bills. Despite what he really thinks or has done, pubs who are against abortion can count on him to vote the way they want him to vote. Secondly, even if he came out and was pro abortion, he would still be closer policy wise to pub voters. If you are choosing between two candidates and are comparing their views to decide which one to vote for, you decide based on their similarities, You decide based on their differences. Again, that is not the case here as Walker would certainly vote with republicans on any abortion legislation.
 
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So you are telling me that if a terrible dem candidate runs for potus against trump, you will not vote for the terrible dem candidate?

well, seeing as i have voted conservative far more than democrat, yes? i actually do this thing where i look at the candidates for the position at hand and think about which would be best. but you have to remember there are far more than 2 parties. (hint i'm one of those conservative guys who gets turned off when you talk about how something god said should be part of the laws of this country.)

NO, that is not what they're telling you.

What they're telling you is they don't believe in GOD, they believe that gov't is the solution to every problem. They will do whatever is required to hold power.

Never any thought crosses their mind about what is good for the people of this country-they're just looking out for their voting base.

bingo. i am telling you i don't believe in a magic ferry that walks on water, raises from the dead, and is his own son and a ghost simultaneously. if you think objectively about it for one second you wouldn't either. the funny part about this is i dont ever vote straight ticket, but you do every time. shocking projection by you. good work.
 
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So you are saying if Clinton ran again in 2024 you would not vote for her over trump? If so, I don't understand. If you have two candidates, you vote the best one even if neither are good candidates.
I appreciate your response, though. Will wait for @DW4_2016 to respond.
no i'd vote for her over trump in '24, because i know what trump represents and she is the lesser of two evils in that regard.

or i'd just vote 3rd party and hope we ended up getting enough to hit that 5% threshold required for funding.
 
well, seeing as i have voted conservative far more than democrat, yes? i actually do this thing where i look at the candidates for the position at hand and think about which would be best. but you have to remember there are far more than 2 parties. (hint i'm one of those conservative guys who gets turned off when you talk about how something god said should be part of the laws of this country.



bingo. i am telling you i don't believe in a magic ferry that walks on water, raises from the dead, and is his own son and a ghost simultaneously. if you think objectively about it for one second you wouldn't either. the funny part about this is i dont ever vote straight ticket, but you do every time. shocking projection by you. good work.
You are a HACK!

LOL that you are a conservative.
 
no i'd vote for her over trump in '24, because i know what trump represents and she is the lesser of two evils in that regard.

or i'd just vote 3rd party and hope we ended up getting enough to hit that 5% threshold required for funding.
Who do you want to run WAP? Who do the democrats have?
 
That is an asinine statement for two reasons. The first and most important is that no matter what he has done in his life, or likely even what his personal view on the matter is, he will vote with republicans on any abortion bills. Despite what he really thinks or has done, pubs who are against abortion can count on him to vote the way they want him to vote. Secondly, even if he came out and was pro abortion, he would still be closer policy wise to pub voters. If you are choosing between two candidates and are comparing their views to decide which one to vote for, you decide based on their similarities, You decide based on their differences. Again, that is not the case here as Walker would certainly vote with republicans on any abortion legislation.
No, it's not asinine. You don't get to make abortion a party platform while simultaneously denigrating the opposing party for being pro-choice and then turn a blind eye when it comes out that your candidate not only had multiple abortions, but lied about doing it to try and save face in the public. Furthermore, Rs have CONSTANTLY harped on Warnock because he said he's pro-choice but by all accounts has never paid for, or had a spouse get an abortion. Meanwhile, the Republican nominee running opposite of Warnock has had multiples, lied about doing it, and mum's the word from republicans.

you can clearly look past someone being a blatant hypocrite because he's part of your team - not everyone can do that.
 
No, it's not asinine. You don't get to make abortion a party platform while simultaneously denigrating the opposing party for being pro-choice and then turn a blind eye when it comes out that your candidate not only had multiple abortions, but lied about doing it to try and save face in the public. Furthermore, Rs have CONSTANTLY harped on Warnock because he said he's pro-choice but by all accounts has never paid for, or had a spouse get an abortion. Meanwhile, the Republican nominee running opposite of Warnock has had multiples, lied about doing it, and mum's the word from republicans.

you can clearly look past someone being a blatant hypocrite because he's part of your team - not everyone can do that.
HAHAHAHAHA. You are still dumb enough to think this election is about abortion.

What a STUPID MF'er you are.
 
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You are a HACK!

LOL that you are a conservative.
well, i'm actually not. if you read it again i didn't say i was (nor have i ever). i said i vote conservative more than democrat. maybe start with reading lessons and build your way up to political talk?
 
i like Hogan, Kasich, and Pritzker to just name a few. none of them will run, or have any chance at winning if they do, because this country is full of idiots.
I'll play this game. What are your principles? Do you have any?

Everything I see from Dims is they have no principles.

What is the "equator" you will not cross?
 
HAHAHAHAHA. You are still dumb enough to think this election is about abortion.

What a STUPID MF'er you are.
no, i don't think it's about abortion. i was just stating i have little respect for people who harp about how they're pro-life, and then turn around and vote for someone who's had multiple abortions.
 
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well, seeing as i have voted conservative far more than democrat, yes? i actually do this thing where i look at the candidates for the position at hand and think about which would be best. but you have to remember there are far more than 2 parties. (hint i'm one of those conservative guys who gets turned off when you talk about how something god said should be part of the laws of this country.



bingo. i am telling you i don't believe in a magic ferry that walks on water, raises from the dead, and is his own son and a ghost simultaneously. if you think objectively about it for one second you wouldn't either. the funny part about this is i dont ever vote straight ticket, but you do every time. shocking projection by you. good work.
First, who I vote for will have little to do with abortion. You are the one projecting. My views on abortion are pretty mainstream and align with most of the rest of the civilized world in that I think there should be a ban somewhere in the 12-16 week range with obvious exceptions for for risk to the mother beyond that. My views on social matters is that the govt should rarely get involved with legislating morality- on either side. I really don't care how anyone else lives their life. People should be free to live however they want to as long as it does not impact me. I don't care if you want to marry someone of the same sex. If you want to marry three people of the same sex, two of your cousins who are the opposite sex, and your pet monkey and can find someone to do it - more power to you. The govt has no place in marriage/relationships. Same with lifestyle. I don't care if you want to live as a guy, a girl, or something in between. I don't care what you call yourself. You can strap a ladder and a firehose on your back and call yourself a fire truck as far as I am concerned. Just don't force me to agree/support your choices if I don't hold the same beliefs.

Second, every post I have made basically says to vote for the person who aligns closet to your individual views. If you are a conservative, that is almost always going to be the republican candidate- as it would be with walker. I don't really care what anyone calls themselves(pub/dem/green/libertarian/etc). All I care about is what views they hold from a policy standpoint. I imagine trump voted democrat much more often than he voted republican before he got into politics. He is definitely not fiscally conservative, but is slightly more so than most democrats.
 
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I'll play this game. What are your principles? Do you have any?

Everything I see from Dims is they have no principles.

What is the "equator" you will not cross?
i'm not a democrat. i've voted Republican in every election, except for 2020 (biden) and 2016 when i didn't vote because both options were shit.

my stances? i'm pro choice, pro cutting defense spending, pro expanding voting access and rights, pro smaller federal gov't, i think we should continue supporting the poorest in the US because it's our duty to take care of those less fortunate, pro legalizing marijuana, pro religion out of schools. i'm pro expanding our national O&G drilling and production footprint, while also supporting renewable energy initiatives. i'm not too keen on US O&G companies currently posting record profits, but i understand that fuel rates aren't driven domestically so it's out of our hands.

i'm against unrestricted gov't spending, don't care in the slightest about all the social justice stuff going on - just wish people would treat their fellow man with respect, against open borders, but i do support increased immigration as it's shown to be an absolute boon to our economy. i'm against covid vaccine mandates now that we know more about it and everyone is starting to get natural immunities to it. i still think that those at risk should be getting boosters/vaccines, but those in the lower risk bracket shouldn't have it required.

idk that's just off the top of my head
 
you better hope it isnt.
It isn't.

I ain't better hope for anything.

You're a P**sy sitting behind a keyboard in moms basement. That's all you got.

You could always name the "wachovia", but you won't do that either. You are an internet P*
you better hope it isnt.

no, i don't think it's about abortion. i was just stating i have little respect for people who harp about how they're pro-life, and then turn around and vote for someone who's had multiple abortions.
This is not about abortion. Only a lib like you would take glee in killing little kids.

If "they (I'm trying to use the proper pronouns) have only aborted you, the world would be in a "better" place.
 
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no i'd vote for her over trump in '24, because i know what trump represents and she is the lesser of two evils in that regard.

or i'd just vote 3rd party and hope we ended up getting enough to hit that 5% threshold required for funding.
Exactly, you vote for what you think is the lesser of two evils. That is exactly what everyone should do and exactly what I advocate for.
 
It isn't.

I ain't better hope for anything.

You're a P**sy sitting behind a keyboard in moms basement. That's all you got.

You could always name the "wachovia", but you won't do that either. You are an internet P*



This is not about abortion. Only a lib like you would take glee in killing little kids.

If "they (I'm trying to use the proper pronouns) have only aborted you, the world would be in a "better" place.
you're not too bright, are you
 
I get Trump, but why not Desantis?
i just think he's a melvin. i don't think he has any real policy besides trying to replicate what Trump is and riding the anti-covid and anti-lgbtq shit in schools. he also has zero charisma and kind of reminds me of the villain from Kindergarten Cop. He seems like a huge corporate shill that doesn't really have any policy chops beyond trying to "own the libs." in that sense i find him to just be a shill populist who doesn't really want to govern, but rather wants to just gain power.
 
i'm not a democrat. i've voted Republican in every election, except for 2020 (biden) and 2016 when i didn't vote because both options were shit.

my stances? i'm pro choice, pro cutting defense spending, pro expanding voting access and rights, pro smaller federal gov't, i think we should continue supporting the poorest in the US because it's our duty to take care of those less fortunate, pro legalizing marijuana, pro religion out of schools. i'm pro expanding our national O&G drilling and production footprint, while also supporting renewable energy initiatives. i'm not too keen on US O&G companies currently posting record profits, but i understand that fuel rates aren't driven domestically so it's out of our hands.

i'm against unrestricted gov't spending, don't care in the slightest about all the social justice stuff going on - just wish people would treat their fellow man with respect, against open borders, but i do support increased immigration as it's shown to be an absolute boon to our economy. i'm against covid vaccine mandates now that we know more about it and everyone is starting to get natural immunities to it. i still think that those at risk should be getting boosters/vaccines, but those in the lower risk bracket shouldn't have it required.

idk that's just off the top of my head
We have some things we can agree upon, but let me ask you this. Politicians are pulling this country apart. What is your solution? Politicians have NEVER solved anything. They keep us divided (which is there GOAL).
 
No, it's not asinine. You don't get to make abortion a party platform while simultaneously denigrating the opposing party for being pro-choice and then turn a blind eye when it comes out that your candidate not only had multiple abortions, but lied about doing it to try and save face in the public. Furthermore, Rs have CONSTANTLY harped on Warnock because he said he's pro-choice but by all accounts has never paid for, or had a spouse get an abortion. Meanwhile, the Republican nominee running opposite of Warnock has had multiples, lied about doing it, and mum's the word from republicans.

you can clearly look past someone being a blatant hypocrite because he's part of your team - not everyone can do that.
As a voter, you vote for the candidate that will vote the way you want to vote most often on policy issues. All the other stuff is irrelevant. Would I like really good candidates to vote for in all races? Of course, but you don't have that option very often. In the end, one of the two candidates is going to win. It really is pretty simple.
If I lived in ga, am I happy that walker is a hypocrite on abortion? Of course not. That still does not change the fact that he is going to vote the way you want him to vote - which is how anyone with a brain should chose who they are going to vote for.
 
i just think he's a melvin. i don't think he has any real policy besides trying to replicate what Trump is and riding the anti-covid and anti-lgbtq shit in schools. he also has zero charisma and kind of reminds me of the villain from Kindergarten Cop. He seems like a huge corporate shill that doesn't really have any policy chops beyond trying to "own the libs." in that sense i find him to just be a shill populist who doesn't really want to govern, but rather wants to just gain power.
And how is that different to what the dims are trying to do today? You act like you are so smart/educated, but you are a GD idiot.

Wake the f**k up p*ssy! The politicians are selling us all out to the highest bidder.

It's a disgrace to anyone who calls themselves Americans.
 
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As a voter, you vote for the candidate that will vote the way you want to vote most often on policy issues. All the other stuff is irrelevant. Would I like really good candidates to vote for in all races? Of course, but you don't have that option very often. In the end, one of the two candidates is going to win. It really is pretty simple.
If I lived in ga, am I happy that walker is a hypocrite on abortion? Of course not. That still does not change the fact that he is going to vote the way you want him to vote - which is how anyone with a brain should chose who they are going to vote for.
listen man i get your point of view, it's just not something i'd be able to square personally, especially if i don't see Warnock as being some great Satan like the R has him painted to be.
 
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