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well the Pee Dee is running out of gas

Sorry dude. American can produce enough crude oil that fulfill all our countries needs. We do import oil. Mostly from Canada. When we buy from overseas it normally is to build out our national strategic resource or to turn around an sell to another country. All "fracking" did for us is help control the global price of oil buy putting more supply on the market and reducing the ability of the Russians, Arabs and Venezuela from dictating the price of a barrel.
 
Gas stations all around town this morning were already out. People are out getting gas and filling up gas cans like a hurricane is coming
 
Sorry dude. American can produce enough crude oil that fulfill all our countries needs. We do import oil. Mostly from Canada. When we buy from overseas it normally is to build out our national strategic resource or to turn around an sell to another country. All "fracking" did for us is help control the global price of oil buy putting more supply on the market and reducing the ability of the Russians, Arabs and Venezuela from dictating the price of a barrel.
You in denial dude.

 
we can find a much better mouthpiece. Also, I am assuming you just mean no tweets for Trump?
Well, it's a completely fictitious scenario but the point is 1/2 the country feels better when a liberal democrat says things they way they think a president should say them, and 1/2 the country feels better when a conservative republican is making economic and diplomatic policy.
 
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Yeah no. I just understand the situation better than you. But go on and succumb to fear if you make you fear better.
So you are saying we're not importing more oil under Biden? Give you facts and you still don't understand. Go ahead and live in La- La Land with rest of the sheep.
 
Have you all not realized that politicians and the government in general sometimes do things to just see what happens. I am not saying the democrats actually allowed or planned this "hack" and shut down to see how the states and economy react to a loss of oil. I am not saying that. But they will use data or whatever from this event to leverage for more green new deal items. The question is how fast does it come back online. Long enough for people to finally tip over to EVs or quickly to get things back up and running? we shall see.

But we know, from Biden's team, that the democrats do things and then use focus groups to get reactions. They shut down the veterans bike parade in NY, then outcry, so they change and allow it. They do some things to see what happens and then use that for later decisions.

This is how many businesses work, here try this McRib sandwich for a limited time. And if it does well, then it gets on the menu. Yes, most politicians are just like the McRib. And it just so happens that the Dems are in control right now.

COVID - Govt shuts down for almost 2 months totally, then some states and businesses start opening back up, there are still blue states with heavy restrictions that impact economic restabilization
Once states start opening back up, we get a "hack" that shuts down the 1/3 of the country that is most open. Again, we will see how long this is down.

And by the way, there has been a push to protect against these ransomware attacks for decades, so this is not a preparation or being ready issue.

It is a strategy, and our government does things like this all the time, mostly to other countries though. I know cause I read Tom Clancy.
Totally agree, this wasn't just a random hack, it was calculated by several groups.

All of Belton area - south Anderson only has 93 Octane left this morning. Went dry fast but Trucks are steadily pulling in/out of the Pipeline Terminal.
 
Clemson football, politics, and the McRib. It’s what I pay for.
Just wait until NBC caves and actually airs the Golden Globes. If not them, someone will pick it up.

"Hey, let's cancel the golden globes. If enough people freak out about it, we can then change our minds and it will probably get us more viewers."
 
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Upstate stations will be resupplied from the coast as opposed to Belton where the fuel normally comes from. This will cause short-term outages or delays in inventory due to the extended delivery time.
 
Upstate stations will be resupplied from the coast as opposed to Belton where the fuel normally comes from. This will cause short-term outages or delays in inventory due to the extended delivery time.
So do we still have two major pipelines up the East Coast? I remember Colonial and Kinder Morgan.
 
So has Biden even acknowledged the issue with gas shortage? Seems like leader of free world would be making a daily statement? Or, would that go against his agenda of electrification of vehicles?
The toilet paper thing is very similar to this in the fact that while waiting in line last night to get gas before stations run out may have been dumb to you, people are still very much in need of gas/toilet paper and may have to stoop to the panic to make sure you are not left without.
Panicking causes the issue more than anything. If people wouldn't panic we wouldn't run out. I guess you dont consider people filling up 3 10 gallon containers as panicking. Why people have be aholes and inconsiderate of people. I saw 3 different People doing that at same gas station. Going have ration gas like toilet paper due people acting like fools.
 
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So you are saying we're not importing more oil under Biden? Give you facts and you still don't understand. Go ahead and live in La- La Land with rest of the sheep.

Lolol.

Yea @PawsFan_ just come along with all us sheep. Everyone on this board knows you are a blind faith Biden follower.

:)
 
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What I noticed from domestic production going from 5.5 mbpd to over 10 mbpd due mostly to fracking is that we pretty much reduced the leverage that OPEC had on world oil prices. We haven't seen the sort of spike in oil that we saw in 2008. Our ability to export our own oil has increased our ability to manage crude inventories and refining capabilities. It's great when government leaves things alone and lets companies manage their own product. The SPR is a boondoggle. They only had 10% storage when covid shut everything down. Don't forget they were filling it up when the price of oil was over 100.
 
Panicking causes the issue more than anything. If people wouldn't panic we wouldn't run out. I guess you dont consider people filling up 3 10 gallon containers as panicking. Why people have be aholes and inconsiderate of people. I saw 3 different People doing that at same gas station. Going have ration gas like toilet paper due people acting like fools.
If they don't get the pipeline running we will still run out. Panic buying only speeds things up. I'm convinced the ethanol causes the auto shut-off nozzle to cut off sooner. I pumped 3 extra gallons after it kicked off in one of my SUVs and 2.5 extra in the other.
 
Panicking causes the issue more than anything. If people wouldn't panic we wouldn't run out. I guess you dont consider people filling up 3 10 gallon containers as panicking. Why people have be aholes and inconsiderate of people. I saw 3 different People doing that at same gas station. Going have ration gas like toilet paper due people acting like fools.
My point is I had a quarter tank last night and decided I should fill up just to be safe. After taking kids to school this morning both stations by my office were out of gas. After working all day I drove by 4 more without gas and 1 with a huge line. Did I panic and fill up last night or did every elses panic cause me to be smart and get gas when I needed it?
 
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