Anddddd: confirmed that it wasn’t sanctioned by the Home office. This was posted in a Canadian HD.
Welp, I won't be shopping at Home Depot anymore
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I agree that the motive of people is division. There are people above of us regular folk that want to keep us divided. I'm just speaking to what privilege is. It's a real thing in many forms. People want to deny that white privilege exists. I don't see the big deal that it does. It doesn't mean that all white people abuse that privilege. Same with males. Hell celebrities have privileges and I know a few that handle that privilege very well. You'd never know they were celebrities. Many of them knowing they have that power totally use it in a bad way damning anyone else. The best answer to white privilege is saying yeah it exists. Hell the country is mostly white. I personally don't abuse it. I treat everyone with respect. Period. Why deny it? Problem is a bunch of assholes are out here abusing it and they get defensive when they are called out. Just one perspective tho.
Oh, it exists. There’s privileges of all different kinds in every facet of humanity. I happen to have several of them. I happen to envy some others.
And they called YOU the Idiot… “true or not” 😂
Forreal. Lots of people ITT with an egf on their face. They just wanted to be outraged about a “social justice” issue, I suppose.
I see stuff like this at my work, but its typically in a elective training course format. I attended one, whose theme was giving coworkers of a marginalized social group the opportunity to participate and collaborate in meetings/discussions.
What this really equated to was giving time and space for "shy" people to speak up ...
The "marginalized group" section of the training, my eyes kind of glazed over and I ignored for the most part, but it did make me think about my own conduct in meetings. Historically, I was typically the first person to ask questions, drill deeper into a tech solution or business proposal, or give my opinion. I have adjusted slightly, especially when in meetings with minority women .... Its not out of some sense of feeling guilty about my white skin or being a man ... but rather ... Im established in my career, I dont need to be the first person to throw ideas out on the table anymore ... thats young peoples work
I dont know if that is a this "Inclusion" training taking hold in me OR if its just the natural progression of worker bee to mentor ..... but ....(((((shrug))))))
I had a very good exchange with @TigerLion06 a few years ago about "White Privilege" that I still think about occasionally. There are elements of this concept that I see and that make sense to me ..... where I tend to bristle .... is when "White Privilege" is used as a cudgel to avoid "Personal Accountability" .... but regardless .... I dont know what its like to be Black, I'll never understand, and I understand that I'll never understand .... BUT I do understand that being black is different.
... I'll never say "Oh I know how you feel!!!" when speaking to a minority, BUT .... I was a "tourist" in that world. My work has allowed me the opportunity to travel the world and experience numerous different cultures. During my first trip to Asia, I spent 17 days in Singapore (essentially Asia for beginners). I spent most of my work days in the city central, Suntec City area, but on the weekends and some evenings I would venture out to the residential neighborhoods to meet coworkers and such. One afternoon I was meeting a coworker at a mall in a residential part of town. I walked in the mall and made my way to meet my co-worker. Out of the thousands of people in this mall, it appeared that I was the only "white" person ..... I wouldnt say it made me feel uncomfortable, but .... I certainly noticed it .... and it just made me think in that moment "Wow, is this how black people feel all the time?"
What this really equated to was giving time and space for "shy" people to speak up ...
The "marginalized group" section of the training, my eyes kind of glazed over and I ignored for the most part, but it did make me think about my own conduct in meetings. Historically, I was typically the first person to ask questions, drill deeper into a tech solution or business proposal, or give my opinion. I have adjusted slightly, especially when in meetings with minority women .... Its not out of some sense of feeling guilty about my white skin or being a man ... but rather ... Im established in my career, I dont need to be the first person to throw ideas out on the table anymore ... thats young peoples work
I dont know if that is a this "Inclusion" training taking hold in me OR if its just the natural progression of worker bee to mentor ..... but ....(((((shrug))))))I had a very good exchange with @TigerLion06 a few years ago about "White Privilege" that I still think about occasionally. There are elements of this concept that I see and that make sense to me ..... where I tend to bristle .... is when "White Privilege" is used as a cudgel to avoid "Personal Accountability" .... but regardless .... I dont know what its like to be Black, I'll never understand, and I understand that I'll never understand .... BUT I do understand that being black is different.
... I'll never say "Oh I know how you feel!!!" when speaking to a minority, BUT .... I was a "tourist" in that world. My work has allowed me the opportunity to travel the world and experience numerous different cultures. During my first trip to Asia, I spent 17 days in Singapore (essentially Asia for beginners). I spent most of my work days in the city central, Suntec City area, but on the weekends and some evenings I would venture out to the residential neighborhoods to meet coworkers and such. One afternoon I was meeting a coworker at a mall in a residential part of town. I walked in the mall and made my way to meet my co-worker. Out of the thousands of people in this mall, it appeared that I was the only "white" person ..... I wouldnt say it made me feel uncomfortable, but .... I certainly noticed it .... and it just made me think in that moment "Wow, is this how black people feel all the time?"
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Why not? I personally like talking about things other than Clemson sports, but with people I have something in common with. I also know as a long time subscriber, there's lots of people on here whose opinions I respect. Others not so much. But if it's something I am interested in, I can hear what people think.
If it's not something I'm interested in particularly, I don't read it.
But I will say that when people start insulting each other and it goes from a discussion to immaturity, then it needs to zapped.
Name calling is going to happen every time. This is not a conservative political website. Just creates divide and alienates the part of the fan base that doesn’t agree with you.
I see stuff like this at my work, but its typically in a elective training course format. I attended one, whose theme was giving coworkers of a marginalized social group the opportunity to participate and collaborate in meetings/discussions.
What this really equated to was giving time and space for "shy" people to speak up ...
The "marginalized group" section of the training, my eyes kind of glazed over and I ignored for the most part, but it did make me think about my own conduct in meetings. Historically, I was typically the first person to ask questions, drill deeper into a tech solution or business proposal, or give my opinion. I have adjusted slightly, especially when in meetings with minority women .... Its not out of some sense of feeling guilty about my white skin or being a man ... but rather ... Im established in my career, I dont need to be the first person to throw ideas out on the table anymore ... thats young peoples work
I had a very good exchange with @TigerLion06 a few years ago about "White Privilege" that I still think about occasionally. There are elements of this concept that I see and that make sense to me ..... where I did to bristle .... is when "White Privilege" is used as a cudgel to avoid "Personal Accountability" .... but regardless .... I dont know what its like to be Black, I'll never understand, and I understand that I'll never understand .... BUT to do understand that being black is different.
... I'll never say "Oh I know how you feel!!!" when speaking to a minority, BUT .... I was a "tourist" in that world. My work has allowed me the opportunity to travel the world and experience numerous different cultures. During my first trip to Asia, I spent 17 days in Singapore (essentially Asia for beginners). I spent most of my work days in the city central, Suntec City area, but on the weekends and some evenings I would venture out to the residential neighborhoods to meet coworkers and such. One afternoon I was meeting a coworker at a mall in a residential part of town. I walked in the mall and made my way to meet my co-worker. Out of the thousands of people in this mall, it appeared that I was the only "white" person ..... I wouldnt say it made me feel uncomfortable, but .... I certainly noticed it .... and it just made me think in that moment "Wow, is this how black people feel all the time?"
This is basically where I am. I try to be open to the feelings an mindset of others. I won't ever understand what it is to be Black in America. I won't ever understand how it feels to be Gay in the Christian South. I try to listen, assess and try acknowledge that this is how they feel.
When you know better you do better. These discussions are important. Most of my friends who are minorities welcome the discussion and questions. I really feel like people can sense that you are trying to understand from a place of empathy and understanding.
Thank god Twitter user LLB24693515 just blew the lid off this one!
If you think for one second this is legit, I have some bad news about the Easter bunny. You might want to hear it now so you don't get ambushed in a few weeks
If you think for one second this is legit, I have some bad news about the Easter bunny. You might want to hear it now so you don't get ambushed in a few weeks
The app for both stores was life changing for me. Look before you go and see how many they have in stock, and when you get there it can tel you the aisle and bay of the item. It’s great.
Would probably cut down on my impulse buying.
Another Ryobi One Battery? Sure, why not.
I think there is "some" validity in what you say, but I don't agree that the larger message is to treat others with respect. Yeah, of course "privilege" exists in this world; it is ubiquitous. Sure, recognizing the ways in which we are privileged is probably a good thing. (We should all be thankful for our advantages and blessings.) But, so many of the discussions around privilege are focused on identifying the privilege of "others." The concept is inherently divisive, and it separates us in most cases based on immutable characteristics. Most importantly, encouraging everyone to view the world through this type of lens does not lead us to a more tolerant and accepting society. In fact, it does the opposite, creating constant focus on our differences and where those differences place us in a hierarchical structure.
100% don't let it be used as an excuse or to escape accountability. I appreciate the kind words.I see stuff like this at my work, but its typically in a elective training course format. I attended one, whose theme was giving coworkers of a marginalized social group the opportunity to participate and collaborate in meetings/discussions.
What this really equated to was giving time and space for "shy" people to speak up ...
The "marginalized group" section of the training, my eyes kind of glazed over and I ignored for the most part, but it did make me think about my own conduct in meetings. Historically, I was typically the first person to ask questions, drill deeper into a tech solution or business proposal, or give my opinion. I have adjusted slightly, especially when in meetings with minority women .... Its not out of some sense of feeling guilty about my white skin or being a man ... but rather ... Im established in my career, I dont need to be the first person to throw ideas out on the table anymore ... thats young peoples work
I had a very good exchange with @TigerLion06 a few years ago about "White Privilege" that I still think about occasionally. There are elements of this concept that I see and that make sense to me ..... where I tend to bristle .... is when "White Privilege" is used as a cudgel to avoid "Personal Accountability" .... but regardless .... I dont know what its like to be Black, I'll never understand, and I understand that I'll never understand .... BUT I do understand that being black is different.
... I'll never say "Oh I know how you feel!!!" when speaking to a minority, BUT .... I was a "tourist" in that world. My work has allowed me the opportunity to travel the world and experience numerous different cultures. During my first trip to Asia, I spent 17 days in Singapore (essentially Asia for beginners). I spent most of my work days in the city central, Suntec City area, but on the weekends and some evenings I would venture out to the residential neighborhoods to meet coworkers and such. One afternoon I was meeting a coworker at a mall in a residential part of town. I walked in the mall and made my way to meet my co-worker. Out of the thousands of people in this mall, it appeared that I was the only "white" person ..... I wouldnt say it made me feel uncomfortable, but .... I certainly noticed it .... and it just made me think in that moment "Wow, is this how black people feel all the time?"
Inherently divisive? Do you feel attacked when it comes up? Otherwise inherently divisive seems personal. I've seen individuals or group use it in a divisive manner but the topic or any discussion about it in my opinion is no where near inherently divisive. The moment it comes up certain people get defensive and nothing productive can come from it. Reasonable and confident people can have the tough discussion without it being inherently divisive.
Yes, I stand by my point that it is inherently divisive. To be fair, I think the term divisive is often used pretty much interchangeably with "antagonistic," which seems to be how you interpreted my response. But, that is not what I meant by it. I meant, quite simply, "divisive" - something that separates us. Even in a reasonable, amicable discussion, it still puts me in this category and you in that category based on some characteristic that we often have no control over. In my opinion, the intense focus on the privilege of others (which seems to come pretty much exclusively from the left) is a dead end. It pushes us further from treating characteristics like race, gender, sexual identity, etc., like characteristics such as eye color or hair color, which I believe is the ideal we should strive towards.
Also, I think your point about it being personal is not one I could argue against. These ideas and discussions are personal to everyone because we are all characters in the story (for good or bad). I think those who believe their biases do not impact their views on these issues are likely fooling themselves.
If you look up the term white fragility, this thread pops up.
I used to get upset about this type of talk: Urm why i got to check my priveldge whats that even mean, sounds reverse racist etc.
Its just a framing point for certain scenarios that has to be brought up sometimes. Essentially, if you were being a fvcking dick and talking over Francine while she was making a point in the meeting. You might get told to check your privilege. If you are the Michael Scott of your office you might need to checkthatshit.
I used to get upset about this type of talk: Urm why i got to check my priveldge whats that even mean, sounds reverse racist etc.
Its just a framing point for certain scenarios that has to be brought up sometimes. Essentially, if you were being a fvcking dick and talking over Francine while she was making a point in the meeting. You might get told to check your privilege. If you are the Michael Scott of your office you might need to checkthatshit.
Idk maybe talk to your therapist or TI about your feelings on the particular anecdotal situation. We are always here for you.
So you don’t have an answer. Gotcha.
You let skin color decide how you react to a situation. You’re not wise, you’re scared.
Corrupt AF......
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When I returned from living in the South Pacific islands, I realized I didn’t miss conversations like this one and stopped watching all news and listening to talk radio. Most in the US want to compete and argue about every detail. It’s all valid. It’s been a great change listening to music and ebooks instead of getting all worked up listening to conservative talk. I will vote and that’s it.
I'll have to find somewhere else to buy my m18 cordless stuff. Milwaukee is a very "white" company anyway.
