We're not going to Mars
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Yep going to Mars is on the same level as Columbus searching to discover America
Of course there will be a be @Catch50 Martian know it all to claim the Earthlings unjustly claimed Mars as colonial invaders of their planet
Just like The Pipe Dream of Columbus that was considered waste fraud and abuse as you so righteously speak so shall the Martian walk about be claimed by the intellectual Mt Everests until the day it becomes like the American dream
LOL, it's private money dude. You should worry about waste, fraud, and abuse of your tax dollars!
Actually, it's NOT Government putting money in the kitty just like Queen Isabella of Portugal or was it Spain
Anyway, the Space X is doing it for piles of money less than NASA
Couple years ago, I laughed at NASA for having ROOKIE ENGINERS or people like @Catch50 who have all the answers AFTER THE FACTS but are all mouth in the front end
Because the engineers failed to convert from feet English measurement to Metric Meters there was a bunch of crashed into the Mars surface costing like a billion dollars in lost equipment
Guess these engineers got promoted like the usual government policies. LOL
After the fact is we have made practically zero progress since 1972 when Apollo 17 landed on the moon.
After the fact that there is nothing to be gained by going to Mars.
After the fact of the billions $ we have wasted on space exploration
The private money won't be there. Besides, the federal DOES waste about $20 billion per year on space exploration. Trump wants us to go to Mars. He fails again.
Consider yourself a genetic Luddite
Why does the chicken cross the road
That’s why we will go to Mars
If I got to explain it well that says it all
You guys claim to stand for responsible spending but I have known better for decades.
I have been called a luddite before and you're all wrong. Investment in technology should make sense and solve a problem. Space exploration just causes more problems. A Mars mission will get astronauts killed. Furthermore, I don't oppose high tech that has proven success. Companies like Intel, Nvidia, ASML and Pratt & Whitney have all pretty much delivered when they promised advancements.
If you want entertainment, do it on your own dime.
Colonizing Mars like Elon talks about, isn't going to happen in multiple lifetimes, IMHO. However I think it realistic to think that within a lifetime we can solve the technical challenges to send humans to Mars and get them back. However I also think it realistic to think that we're going to kill people in the process. Edit: And once we do kill people (and spending all the money do do that) will we have the will/$$ to continue??
I happen to think that above all, we need to advance our capabilities in space from a pure national defense perspective. I don't like the thought that the Chinese, x decades down the road have seized the high ground and developed a capabiity in space or on the moon that we couldn't match in any reasonable timeframe. I also don't pretend to know what commercial spinoffs there are from a space program, but solving the type of technical and engineering challenges posed by space has to, logically when solved, advance our military capabilities.
For those that support a space program i think there is room for debate as to what needs to be pursued first.... goto mars, or get good at going to the moon and back, and establish ability to operate there before trying for mars.
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Going to Mars is and should be a private endeavor. If Elon wants to send people to Mars and people want to go to Mars with him, then have at it. People thought Christopher Columbus was crazy too I am sure. Without expanding the frontier, what purpose does man have? What is a singular vision that all humans can get behind no matter your race, sex, nationality, etc? Expanding human consciousness is a goal that has been pursued since the beginning of time.
It's no surprise to me that a "progressive" wants to stop progress. There is no real vision from the left. No real passion. They just have a list of grievances and reasons on why they are failing.
Like @ANEW pointed out, many of our everyday luxuries were created due to space exploration. @Catch50 are you saying that we should not explore space at all, or just not on the publics dime?
It would seem that the Government would need to be involved in space to be competitive militarily. For Example, Ukraine uses Starlink and according to Zelensky, without it they would lose in a matter of weeks. We need to launch satellites to see what other militaries are doing etc.
It's no surprise to me that a "progressive" wants to stop progress. There is no real vision from the left. No real passion. They just have a list of grievances and reasons on why they are failing.
Like @ANEW pointed out, many of our everyday luxuries were created due to space exploration. @Catch50 are you saying that we should not explore space at all, or just not on the publics dime?
It would seem that the Government would need to be involved in space to be competitive militarily. For Example, Ukraine uses Starlink and according to Zelensky, without it they would lose in a matter of weeks. We need to launch satellites to see what other militaries are doing etc.
I am thinking the same thing about the time. Going to Mars or doing more in space will take decades and generations of people living dying and doing.
I don't see it as waste but seeking new solutions.
The development of GPS and interactive driving directions was developed by the military and space missions. On that scale one could ask why go into space. That's one simple example.
But if one wants to look at problems on earth not being funded they are funded or not funded due to people who have different ideas of fraud waste abuse.
One man's treasure is another man's junk.
