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What was the popular vote if you take out California and NY? She won those 2 states by 5-6 million votes. Mainstream Americans voted for Trump, or you could say against Hillary and liberal principles.

Well, now I am confused. Mainstream media bad, mainstream America good? And in your opinion states like NY and CA, that contribute more to the federal govt than they take, are not “mainstream America”. But states like S.C. that take more than they contribute, are mainstream America?
 
What was the popular vote if you take out California and NY? She won those 2 states by 5-6 million votes. Mainstream Americans voted for Trump, or you could say against Hillary and liberal principles.

Yup. People in NY and California don't shouldn't count. They are barely americans!
 
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I did, as a joke. I live in SC, one of the dumbest and most obese states in the country. I already knew who my state was going to vote for.

If I lived in a swing state I would’ve voted for Hillary.

Hope that helps.

Obviously your in the minority so why don't you cut your losses and leave the state. Who would want to live around the fat and the stupid folks anyway.
You sir are a joke
 
Well, now I am confused. Mainstream media bad, mainstream America good? And in your opinion states like NY and CA, that contribute more to the federal govt than they take, are not “mainstream America”. But states like S.C. that take more than they contribute, are mainstream America?

So, you really believe that California and NY have a lot in common with the other states?
 
@Essolover4 since you can’t quote and I’m on mobile
You’re something like 0 for 4 in this man. Humans are animals.

Ironic coming from you.
Sorry bud I can quote. I just had a case of the “pickle fingers” because I was distracted by my two sons who were rough housing. I love those two cluster of cells.
 
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Yup. People in NY and California don't shouldn't count. They are barely americans!

I didn’t say that, but they are a lot different than the rest of the states. There is a reason he won the electoral college fairly easy.
 
Obviously not, it’s a fetus.

Myself and a couple others on here had a long abortion argument/discussion a couple weeks back. If I recall correctly at the end of it both sides came to an agreement of 4 weeks and prior should be no exceptions. I’d be a fan of that.
 
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Obviously your in the minority so why don't you cut your losses and leave the state. Who would want to live around the fat and the stupid folks anyway.
You sir are a joke
I’m a liberal, I love being the minority.
Sorry bud I can quote. I just had a case of the “pickle fingers” because I was distracted by my two sons who were rough housing. I love those two cluster of cells.
They are not a cluster of cells, but rather a multi-organ system human being.

They were once small clusters of undifferentiated cells. If you and your wife were incredibly poor and she got pregnant unexpectedly, I am of the belief that you should be allowed to terminate the pregnancy early so that you can have children when you are fully prepared to do so. I know that makes too much sense for you 2,000 year old way of thinking, but that’s what I believe in 2018.
 
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No, because that’s not true. If you recall, the majority of this country voted for Hillary.

Did you think before you wrote that response?

That is probably true. Here’s the problem with that, the poorest states in the country (the south) would all make it difficult or banned entirely. You think to yourself “well if someone wants it bad enough they can go to a state that allows it. Problem is, not everyone can afford to travel all the way to an abortion clinic in a more civilized state.

5/10
Keep on believing that.
 
Trump is lifelong New Yorker, born and raised. You know that right? Please tell me you know that.

What does that have to do with the fact that his platform appealed to a majority of Americans not living in Cal and NY? I don’t even think he believes totally in his platform, but it resonated with the voters he needed in swing states.
 
Obviously not, it’s a fetus.

Myself and a couple others on here had a long abortion argument/discussion a couple weeks back. If I recall correctly at the end of it both sides came to an agreement of 4 weeks and prior should be no exceptions. I’d be a fan of that.

WEll you do realize few women even realize they are pregnant at 4 weeks into gestation. Especially the ones that are not looking for it or wanting it. So this rule would greatly decrease abortion
 
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WEll you do realize few women even realize they are pregnant at 4 weeks into gestation. Especially the ones that are not looking for it or wanting it. So this rule would greatly decrease abortion
That’s where the details come in. If a woman is using easily accessible contraception (see how all these liberal policies make things easier?) then she shouldn’t have much to worry about when it comes to getting pregnant. Say her partner is using a condom and everything goes smoothly, no reason to worry. Then in say 5 or 6 weeks she sees she missed her period. She takes a pregnancy test, it’s positive. This should be an exception IMO. Wasn’t her fault. She was being responsible. Just bad luck. But let’s say her partner is using a condom and it busts. I can guarantee you that couple, if they’re concerned about potential pregnancy will be getting a pregnancy test done ASAP.

At some point you have to require SOME personal responsibility. I’m not a fan of women going around having unprotected sex and then just getting a free abortion whenever they get knocked up. That’s stupid.
 
I too am excited to watch 40 years of progress slowly be flushed down the toilet.
I agree with you John....it truly is an awesome night! I join you in pulling the "flush" handle. Watch it go down to the sewer where it belongs! Now, back to the constitution!
 
It may have the DNA of a person, but it is not yet a person.

The analogy I used a couple weeks ago was that eggs are not chickens. I had an activist for limiting women’s healthcare tell me that an egg was a chicken. That’s how deep his brainwashing was. Incredible

Which type of egg .... one that has just been laid... or one that is being incubated by the hen and has a heartbeat
 
@nytigerfan @iceheart08 @JAMCRACKER99 @johnhugh any thoughts on the pick? Out of the dwindled list of 5 where did Kavanaugh rank on your preference?

Don’t know, I have been with the family at our beach house since July 3rd so have not had enough time to pay attention. I just logged on to TI tonight to kill some time while the kids weee playing charades. Saw the usual simpletons babbling nonsense and decided to respond.
 
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I agree with you John....it truly is an awesome night! I join you in pulling the "flush" handle. Watch it go down to the sewer where it belongs! Now, back to the constitution!
Are you proud of being against progress?
Which type of egg .... one that has just been laid... or one that is being incubated by the hen and has a heartbeat
The one being incubated has left the body. I’m talking about the egg before it comes out. You can’t win on the wrong side man.
 
That’s where the details come in. If a woman is using easily accessible contraception (see how all these liberal policies make things easier?) then she shouldn’t have much to worry about when it comes to getting pregnant. Say her partner is using a condom and everything goes smoothly, no reason to worry. Then in say 5 or 6 weeks she sees she missed her period. She takes a pregnancy test, it’s positive. This should be an exception IMO. Wasn’t her fault. She was being responsible. Just bad luck. But let’s say her partner is using a condom and it busts. I can guarantee you that couple, if they’re concerned about potential pregnancy will be getting a pregnancy test done ASAP.

At some point you have to require SOME personal responsibility. I’m not a fan of women going around having unprotected sex and then just getting a free abortion whenever they get knocked up. That’s stupid.



WTF.... so everyone who wants an abortion is interviewed and based on their statement a panel of judges decides if it was a mistake or if the parents were being responsible and if so they can have an abortion. If not they cannot.

Knowing that is the rule all they have to do is lie and say they used a condom.

Not a very realistic plan you have there
 
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WTF.... so everyone who wants an abortion is interviewed and based on their statement a panel of judges decides if it was a mistake or if the parents were being responsible and if so they can have an abortion. If not they cannot.

Knowing that is the rule all they have to do is lie and say they used a condom.

Not a very realistic plan you have there
I didn’t say anything about proving anything. All I’m saying is if people have access to cost-free contraception, that would greatly lower the need for abortion in the first place. People aren’t going to stop having sex. It’s in our DNA. People act like all these people having tons of kids want to be having them. A lot of it is poor decision making, mostly by choosing to spend money on things other than condoms. But if people can’t help themselves you have to help them. That’s really the backbone of my beliefs. A lot of these issues don’t affect me personally.
 
I didn’t say anything about proving anything. All I’m saying is if people have access to cost-free contraception, that would greatly lower the need for abortion in the first place. People aren’t going to stop having sex. It’s in our DNA. People act like all these people having tons of kids want to be having them. A lot of it is poor decision making, mostly by choosing to spend money on things other than condoms. But if people can’t help themselves you have to help them. That’s really the backbone of my beliefs. A lot of these issues don’t affect me personally.
That’s great but how do you determine what constitutes not being able to help themselves?
 
Are you proud of being against progress?

The one being incubated has left the body. I’m talking about the egg before it comes out. You can’t win on the wrong side man.

Well then that is a totally asinine comparison because an egg that has just come out of a hen has not even begun development and surely has no heartbeat. You cannot win when you just spew out stupid ideas and rationalizations
 
That’s great but how do you determine what constitutes not being able to help themselves?
Insufficient income, inadequate education. Two significant barriers in improving quality of life. Poor and stupid is no way to go through life
Well then that is a totally asinine comparison because an egg that has just come out of a hen has not even begun development and surely has no heartbeat. You cannot win when you just spew out stupid ideas and rationalizations
I was just thinking that last sentence
 
If you and your wife were incredibly poor and she got pregnant unexpectedly, I am of the belief that you should be allowed to terminate the pregnancy early so that you can have children when you are fully prepared to do so.
Wow. I was about to log out.

OR they could take responsibility for their own actions and
1) not have sex during the one ovulating week a month in the first place because they know they can't afford one or
2) accept the results of extremely poor decision making & step up and make sacrifices to raise the human you accidentally created

They treat it like a whoopsie daisy - like now that I successfully acheived we're-not-ready conception, the law should protect my right to grab the coat hanger. It is appalling honestly.
Rape is the only exception to me since that removes the responsibility portion.

Society revolves around this personal responsibility characteristic. When we stop living & teaching children/young adults this core value and instead support a culture of victim, where's mine, do what I want, finance my sexual irresponsibility, etc., the results are going to be interesting to say the least.

There are many countries that do support this lifestyle. I encourage people interested in that existence to explore them, work there for a bit, and if you still agree - move there. Just be prepared to pay 60% of your (possibly govt determined) income to taxes to pay for this lifestyle for you and your countrymen.
 
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Wow. I was about to log out.

OR they could take responsibility for their own actions and
1) not have sex during the one ovulating week a month in the first place because they know they can't afford one or
2) accept the results of extremely poor decision making & step up and make sacrifices to raise the human you accidentally created

They treat it like a whoopsie daisy - like now that I successfully acheived we're-not-ready conception, the law should protect my right to grab the coat hanger. It is appalling honestly.
Rape is the only exception to me since that removes the responsibility portion.

Society revolves around this personal responsibility characteristic. When we stop living & teaching children/young adults this core value and instead support a culture of victim, where's mine, do what I want, finance my sexual irresponsibility, etc., the results are going to be interesting to say the least.

There are many countries that do support this lifestyle. I encourage people interested in that existence to explore them, work there for a bit, and if you still agree - move there. Just be prepared to pay 60% of your (possibly govt determined) income to taxes to pay for this lifestyle for you and your countrymen.
You are quite literally too stupid to argue with. Just forget it
What is sufficient?
I don’t know. That’s entirely subjective. People that have good income (the majority of this board) don’t understand what it’s like to not have a dollar to spare in your budget. I don’t either, but that doesn’t mean I don’t want to protect the people that live at that level of poverty
 
Which type of egg .... one that has just been laid... or one that is being incubated by the hen and has a heartbeat
I was wondering when someone was going to point out this key distinction. Big difference in a fertilized egg and an unfertilized egg.

I don't think he realizes that hens can lay unfertilized eggs.
 
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