When the vax goes wrong
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Sounds like the same arguments for the MMR vaccine causing Autism in kids... I got a vaccine and then got sick... It must be the vaccine.
Everybody isnt the same so arent affected the same. Might be ok for most but not for all...
What proof is there that this was caused by the vaccine? Correlation doesn't equal causation.
Ask her and her doctor if the poor girl is alive. Facts are some people have a negative reaction to the vax while most dont.
But why are we assuming that this is a reaction to the vaccine?
again ask her and her doctor. Also why does it matter? Its know now there are negative reactions by some including death to a small % of the people that get the vax. Are you thinking there are zero negative effects and need proof still?
These people will never admit there are problems with the vaccine. Their heels are dug in far too deep. It’s basically a religion at this point
I admit that there are people who have side effects, just like with any other prescribed medication on the planet. I also recognize that the side effects that have occurred and been verified are in line with what was expected and outlined when they were approved for use.
What I have issues with is people trying to claim that the vaccine is suddenly dangerous, or someone mislead people, or any number of other ridiculous things based on the VAERs site, or randome videos. That is at best ignorant, and at worse willfully ignoring facts to make a political point.
I agree with the first part. But there is a ton of videos of people misleading the public about the vax and covid...
Speaking of a religion, strangely, it's only those on the right that propagate the conspiracies around the vaccine. After Biden won, your cult decided that vaccines were bad, despite all the credible evidence that said they were safe. Hence, thousands more Trumpers died unncessarily because they believed the gospel of MAGA. That should have shamed you into shutting the fvck up but instead you search out any random death so you can pin on the vaccine. Stupid orthodoxy SMH.
If you have significant comorbidities you should probably get the vaccine. If you are 50 or under and in good health I see no need. If you are a healthy woman of child bearing age or or under 30, it makes no sense to me to get it. It is insane and maybe criminal negligence to have healthy kids vaxed. According the the cdc's own data, kids 5-14 are more likely to kill themselves(although this is very rare) than die from covid. If you are going to vax your kid, please have them institutionalized immediately to prevent a more likely cause of death. joking/not joking.
People on the right were never for the vax, it was one of the things we think Trump got wrong and boo him for. You ignore the fact its not safe for everybody and should never be mandated to get Thats what most of us didnt like was the mandate and all the vile hate from people like you. People lost everything due to that bs your side was pushing...
68% of the population is fully vaxxed and 79% of the population has received at least one dose. I'm pretty sure a significant number of those people are on the right. Its you people in the 21% that decided you were smarter than all the world's scientists and the rest of the population. And judging by the majority of your posts, you don't dwell in reality so no surprise you'd be anti-vax. You don't care about the truth, right or wrong and you're significantly stupid. So of course you know better.
Many got it because they would lose their jobs and homes if they didnt and not be allowed to go out in some places. Either way it should have never been mandated and people denied services for not getting it. People like you wanted to send those that didnt comply be sent to camps...
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My grandfather spent the entire pandemic in the VA in Anderson without a single issue. Got the vaccine and started passing bloodclots within 4 days. Passed two weeks later.
How’s that for a random death? When I say take your “credible evidence” and shove it up your ass, I mean it wholeheartedly. Truly you may be the biggest PoS I’ve ever come across
Sorry for the loss, but correlation doesn't equal causation. You guys sure don't seem to understand problem solving. You do realize many,many things can cause blood clots? It's a side effect for most blood pressure meds, as well as a common side effect for people who have had Covid.
Sure and one of those many things was a vax that one company produced and also people not being injected with the vax the correct way. The vax has killed people. That doesnt mean its not good for most people. But for many its not and we are talking about tens of millions around the world. People get mad when people want to deny peoples suffering and call them names when they just lost a loved one to the effects from the vax. When their doctors know and say it was the vax that caused it. I lost my brother in-law earlier this year from it and got mocked here. The doctors knew what was causing it. But the sheep didnt want to listen and just mock people. We wont ever forget all the things people did and said to us over this subject. People on your side want to forgive and forget and move on now. But we wont...
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Wait,what do you mean about not being injected with the vaccine the "right way" ?
Also, there are multiple vaccines created by multiple companies.
A POS is someone who has an avatar depicting a swastika merged with a Pride flag or someone whose handle is JoeBidenSniffsKids or someone who spreads conspiracy theories and lies. I could go on...
Sorry about your grandfather but his death almost assuredly had nothing to do with the vaccine. The mRNA vaccines aren't even associated with blood clots - the J&J is but only about 4 people per million have had that issue. If he was old and had spent the entire pandemic in the hospital, he was likely sedentary, which could have been a main factor, as well as COVID itself. It's no different than saying he had a Bojangles biscuit a few days before he died so we know the sausage killed him. Lots of people have died after receiving a vaccine but not because of it.
Yes the vax has to be injected into the muscle. If it doesnt get injected correctly it will cause clots if it gets into the blood. Meaning no veins or arteries can be injected.
Blood Clotting, COVID-19 and Vaccines
Since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, blood clotting has been identified as a side effect of SARS-CoV-2 and later as an extremely rare side effect of some COVID-19 vaccines. University of Utah Health answer questions about the association of blood clots with COVID-19 and certain vaccines.
I don't want to be an ass since you truly seem to be open to discussion. This idea of faulty administration of the vaccine seems like a weird "Grasping at straws" type thing.
I would imagine if given incorrectly pretty much any medicine can cause issues. That's why it's prescribed and only administered by people who are trained in how to administer the medication.
Honest question, Are you against the actual vaccine, or are you against vaccine mandates? Are you against all vaccines and medications, or just the Covid vaccines?
I tend to think that entire exchange is BS. No way someone would be as stupid and uncaring as the guy asking if it would be better for him to catch COVID.
But let's look at the math.
He has an 80% chance of dying in 9 years. To get to a 20% chance of someone contracting this from him and dying, he would have to give COVID to 160 people. This assumes a 1% mortality rate - which is higher than I have seen published. If I even make a half-ass attempt at quarantine, I see fewer people than that in a month.
So my conclusion is Yes. Yes it would be better for him to catch and spread COVID.
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Its always about the mandates for me. Ill never be for a mandate for a medical procedure unless its for something way worst like ebola outbreak where way more people die.
This idea of faulty administration of the vaccine seems like a weird "Grasping at straws" type thing---Its called malpractice and has nothing to do with the vax really. There is a certain way it has to be administered and if its not followed the results can be fatal. When you get a vax when they first stick you they have to draw on the syringe to see if there is blood(aspiration). If there is blood they have to pull the syringe out toss it and start over. The reason being they have hit a vein or artery. The vax must not be injected into the bloodstream that can kill you. It has to be injected directly into the muscle. Ive seen several people get injected and the person giving the shot was not doing this. They would just stick and inject.....NOTE- Seems to not be standard practice these days like before...
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True but point is even if you get the vax it doesnt stop you from catching or spreading it like they said it would...
Here is a discussion on the practice of aspiration.
Aspiration in injections: should we continue or abandon the practice? - PMC
Aspiration during any kind of injection is meant to ensure that the needle tip is at the desired location during this blind procedure. While aspiration appears to be a simple procedure, it has generated a lot of controversy concerning the perceived ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
No because if a doctor there says anything publicly negative about the vax or the gov handling of covid they get arrested. Here in the US they might just lose their license to practice medicine and or have their bank accounts closed etc...
To keep the math simple I assumed it would.
My wife has had the vax and got COVID again, but she did not get the booster.
I had the vax and the booster and did not catch it despite being in the house with her.
Had a friend and her husband that were vaxed and boosted and both got COVID afterwards. And the vaccine 'knocked her on her butt' also.
I'm no conspiracy theorist on the vax, but I don't think it should be mandated.
Yes its the mandate I think most have an issue with. There are some that have issue with the covid vax and some that just dont like any vax. But on this subject its mostly the mandates people have issue with...
Are you channeling your inner hillary clinton? 'What does it matter' if there is causation, this girl is sick and simple minded people will just assume the worst.
sure, im sure some simple minded do. Im also sure some simple minded think they know more than her and her doctors about her condition. After all some of you think the vax is 100% safe and the unvaxxed are the reasons people still catch it. Only the unvaxxed catch it and are the ones filling up the ER's atm right???
Yes, the number of hospitalizations and deaths are much higher among the unvaccinated and the hospital stays are extrememly expensive as well. If you really only care about the mandates you wouldn't foolishly devote so many posts to vaccine disinformation in an attempt the scare people from getting vaccinated. It's ridiculously stupid and in my opinion an attempt to make you feel better about your guilt for deciding that Biden's win meant vaccines are bad.
Unvaccinated COVID-19 hospitalizations cost billions of dollars - Peterson-KFF Health System Tracker
COVID-19 vaccines have been free and broadly available to adults in all states and the District of Columbia since mid-April 2021, meaning adults in the U.S. have generally been able to be fully vaccinated for COVID-19 since late May 2021 if receiving a two-dose vaccine. COVID-19 vaccines are...
www.healthsystemtracker.org
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bless your heart. did you know they're hiring tons of people like you as walmart greeters and parking lot attendants. there is still hope for you!
